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    I’m counting on one of these guys to be our 2nd round pick:

    Noah Penda - quite possibly the best defender in the draft
    Miles Byrd - another solid defender
    Maxim Reynaud - Wemby’s best pal

    also isnt it crazy that a 2nd round pick is a finalist in this year’s rookie of the year race
    I think there are quite some good centers in the 2nd round, but haven't done much scouting. Drafting a 3rd string C would make the most sense to me there.




    If I told you Queen would become one of the best shooting bigs of this class, how high would you take him?

    I guess a better way to ask this question is… if a big in this class had the best offense (whole package: ISO, shooting, post offense, everything) but the worst defense… how much is he worth?

    IMO, I don’t think any big’s defense could be worse than Sengun’s and his team is able to make it work. Today’s offense is just that much more important than defense, tbh.

    his defense is the only thing that worries me. His 3-point shot coming along is not far fetched, since he's already a good midrange shooter, he should be able to extend his range.

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    I’m taking Queen over Harper. Only Flagg is better.

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    If you told me Queen becomes a 38% 3-point shooter I'd take him over everyone not named Flagg and Harper tbh. I already assume he'll become an average defender.
    If Queen shoots 38% from 3 he has franchise player potential. He would be 1a offense weapon on Spurs 2-3 years from now even over Wemby if that is the case. He would lead the offense while Wemby leads the defense.

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    Also I got off of Instagram so I haven’t seen these Derik Queen pics! Looks like he has lost even more weight. Damn, he is going to mess around and go 3rd overall!

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    If I told you Queen would become one of the best shooting bigs of this class, how high would you take him?

    I guess a better way to ask this question is… if a big in this class had the best offense (whole package: ISO, shooting, post offense, everything) but the worst defense… how much is he worth?

    IMO, I don’t think any big’s defense could be worse than Sengun’s and his team is able to make it work. Today’s offense is just that much more important than defense, tbh.
    It looks like he has lost a lot of weights and putting more core muscle. If this continues he’ll be top 5 and too far where Spurs pick is right now. I’m betting on everyone’s eyes on Queen and ignoring who could be the more all-around big, Sorber.

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    We should still take the BPA, regardless of the position. There are enough minutes available. Some picks might require moving a current player, but it's not like anyone they're worth . Other than Fox, Castle and Wemby, obviously.
    I got no clue if Queen's game will translate, but there shouldn't be any fit issues on either end of the floor, we had Sochan playing next to Wemby, ffs.

    Either Sorber or Queen can play the non-Wemby minutes at C and 10 to 15 minutes together with Wemby in their rookie season. If they're good, we worry about the fit later.
    Even if you we know someone is going to be good, but won't fit the team, it's a great way to generate more future assets. Like Fox/Haliburton situation.

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    It looks like he has lost a lot of weights and putting more core muscle. If this continues he’ll be top 5 and too far where Spurs pick is right now. I’m betting on everyone’s eyes on Queen and ignoring who could be the more all-around big, Sorber.
    I was watching more Sorber film and two more things stuck out to me.

    There was a game where his matchup was acting like Draymond, being super physical and trying to get in his head all game. Sorber was unbothered through it all. He played his game calm, cool, collected. Very Tim Duncan-like, IMO.

    In another game, he was commanding the defense and barking at his teammates to get in position. The Spurs have always preached to communicate to each other when they’re on the floor.

    this guy seems like the perfect Spur, tbh.

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    My big concern with Sorber is his injury which was a broken foot

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    I’m counting on one of these guys to be our 2nd round pick:

    Noah Penda - quite possibly the best defender in the draft
    Miles Byrd - another solid defender
    Maxim Reynaud - Wemby’s best pal

    also isnt it crazy that a 2nd round pick is a finalist in this year’s rookie of the year race
    I think there are some good options for a backup center in round 2. Reynaud sure, I mention Kalkbrenner and nobody ever replies. K is an older prospect but that means we don’t have to wait as long for him to contribute as a more ready made prospect and he has excellent height and even shoots the 3 ball well.

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    I think there are some good options for a backup center in round 2. Reynaud sure, I mention Kalkbrenner and nobody ever replies. K is an older prospect but that means we don’t have to wait as long for him to contribute as a more ready made prospect and he has excellent height and even shoots the 3 ball well.
    I like Kalkbrenner alot. #30 on my board, so I'd be really happy if he's available when we pick. He's got the potential to contribute year 1

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    My big concern with Sorber is his injury which was a broken foot
    Buy low.

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    I like Sorber's film that showed extremely aggressive defense. We need one of those 1.5ers, 3 stocks a game types that get equal part blocks and steals and have good length. The times we were playing Sochan or Barnes at C made me want to vomit, except that I kept in mind we needed every loss we could down the stretch. We need a legit small ball center. We also can use a long 3/SF/PF. Thus, Queen + a Fleming or Sorber should not be out of the question.

    If we are picking at 8 (not top 4), my main hope is that Maluach goes top 7, pushing better options down to us. I am not excited at all at Maluach at 8, I just feel like he's not versatile enough to warrant many minutes. Hence, he becomes a much too expensive option at 8 to play backup C, effectively.

    Edit: on a proofread I want to be clear, I don't want to draft both Queen AND Sorber. Neither one shoots from outside well currently, so we don't need to add two players with that same question mark that play the same position.

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    Pick 1 to 3 are set. Ace will be #3, even if he might become a bust. there is just to much of what teams are looking for.

    so from 4 on things start to get interesting. I put Edgecome, Johnson, Fears and Jakucionis in the same tier. I do believe, any of those can end up as the 4th pick. why? any of them has a NBA skill that will translate and enough potential, to at least become at least a quality starter. But they just need to get better in one department they currently don‘t cover and they will be all stars.
    and that’s why this group is the most interesting for the Spurs IMO.
    1 or 2 or 3 are no brainers.
    4 will be one of the mentioned group, but pick 8 as well, if just one team picks differently. (and one team from 4 to 7 will pick Queen).

    Pick 9 will need some more luck though, but in that case those 4 will likely be gone. If that‘s the case, Spurs will likely reach for Bryant, Demin or Essengue, who I think they have protected as the 2nd pick. If they need to use the first pick on one of this three, they will just wait who falls to 14. might be another one of the mentioned group, because Kon, Maluach, Richardson, Newell could be 10 to 13.

    my guess right now is, that draft night will deliver Jakucionis and Essengue.

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    If Queen shoots 38% from 3 he has franchise player potential. He would be 1a offense weapon on Spurs 2-3 years from now even over Wemby if that is the case. He would lead the offense while Wemby leads the defense.
    If you can guarantee Queen can shoot 38% from 3, I would pick him at #2.

    Problems, how many time we anticipate guys to shoot like that and got disappointed? Especially big guys?

    The chance is less than 20%. That's why I would pick guys who is already shooting 3 well.

    With our big 3 already in house, we need to pick safe guys and ready to compete now.

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    My big concern with Sorber is his injury which was a broken foot
    I read somewhere that it's a turf toe not a broken foot.

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    Pick 1 to 3 are set. Ace will be #3, even if he might become a bust. there is just to much of what teams are looking for.

    so from 4 on things start to get interesting. I put Edgecome, Johnson, Fears and Jakucionis in the same tier. I do believe, any of those can end up as the 4th pick. why? any of them has a NBA skill that will translate and enough potential, to at least become at least a quality starter. But they just need to get better in one department they currently don‘t cover and they will be all stars.
    and that’s why this group is the most interesting for the Spurs IMO.
    1 or 2 or 3 are no brainers.
    4 will be one of the mentioned group, but pick 8 as well, if just one team picks differently. (and one team from 4 to 7 will pick Queen).

    Pick 9 will need some more luck though, but in that case those 4 will likely be gone. If that‘s the case, Spurs will likely reach for Bryant, Demin or Essengue, who I think they have protected as the 2nd pick. If they need to use the first pick on one of this three, they will just wait who falls to 14. might be another one of the mentioned group, because Kon, Maluach, Richardson, Newell could be 10 to 13.

    my guess right now is, that draft night will deliver Jakucionis and Essengue.
    So we will be able to predict this better when we know the final draft order, but I’m certain Flagg, Harper, Edgecomb and Bailey will go in the top 7, probably first four in that order. If you saw the espn big board recently, givony is saying that fears is killing it in workouts and is pushing himself to the top of the draft. Also, tre is showing out too. Since those two guys are possible 1a players I expect them to go in the top 7 too. The last one is a bit of a wild card, but since Toronto is likely to draft right before us, I’m expecting Malauch to get drafted before us too.

    That leaves us to draft anyone else. I think either kon or queen would be great #8 picks, but I can be convinced of several others actually. It’s a pretty open field to me.

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    So we will be able to predict this better when we know the final draft order, but I’m certain Flagg, Harper, Edgecomb and Bailey will go in the top 7, probably first four in that order. If you saw the espn big board recently, givony is saying that fears is killing it in workouts and is pushing himself to the top of the draft. Also, tre is showing out too. Since those two guys are possible 1a players I expect them to go in the top 7 too. The last one is a bit of a wild card, but since Toronto is likely to draft right before us, I’m expecting Malauch to get drafted before us too.

    That leaves us to draft anyone else. I think either kon or queen would be great #8 picks, but I can be convinced of several others actually. It’s a pretty open field to me.
    I would love for Maluach and Fears to go top 7. It gives us great options.

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    I would love for Maluach and Fears to go top 7. It gives us great options.
    We have way more options if Fears last until 8 he is the kind of player teams move up for and he is our likely pure BPA.

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    We have way more options if Fears last until 8 he is the kind of player teams move up for and he is our likely pure BPA.
    It might give us more trade options, but if he goes earlier it will push down better options for taking a player.

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    It might give us more trade options, but if he goes earlier it will push down better options for taking a player.
    Fears is a consensus 5th right now what better options.

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    Fears is a consensus 5th right now what better options.
    I don't think Fears is a top 15 option on our board. We don't really need a PG who can shoot from deep. He may very well be top 5 on some boards which is why if he's available at 8 it gives us trade option, but for us I doubt we'd go there with Fox and Castle on board.
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    https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...immer-fredette

    Fears impact stats is so poor. Hope he fools NBA GMs

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    I don't think Fears compares too well to Fredette or Davis. They're different players. He's also younger at time of draft.

    The best comparison, or at least much better, is... De'Aaron Fox. They're practically the same player in stature and skillset, as I've been saying over and over, which is why drafting him doesn't make sense. Fox was a good bit better coming out of college.

    https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...--de-aaron-fox

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    I did not add those two players because I thought they played similar to Fears. I added them to show how wildly successful college players with no serious NBA talent don’t end up making any splash in the NBA.

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    I don't think Fears is a to 25 option on our board. We don't really need a PG who can shoot from deep. He may very well be top 5 on some boards which is why if he's available at 8 it gives us trade option, but for us I doubt we'd go there with Fox and Castle on board.
    I don't believe it, young lefty with downhill ability with the most trade value currently should not be a late first guy on our board. He would likely retain much of his value even when we keep him cause there is zero adjustments, with the offense built on a lefty downhill guard with an iffy shot.

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