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    Trump didn’t even know McGhan would go in there and spill his guts
    Trump surrounds himself with incompetent and corrupt people. The only thing he asks, like any good mob boss, is for loyalty.

    ... and like any good mob boss, you get to him by going through his captains, both of which went down.

    So now, they get to take a good, looooong look at the Trump Organization.

    Given where Trump does business, the odds that the Trump Organization laundered money in some way approaches 100%, so the only question is how much Trump knew about it.

    Either Trump didn't know, in which case he is an idiot of monumental proportions, or he did, in which case he is an outright criminal boss, in every sense of that word.

    That's going to be ed Darrin/Chris/TSA's choice. Idiot, or criminal boss.

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    Assuming Donald Trump reads...
    Trump didn’t even know McGhan would go in there and spill his guts
    YOU GUYS DON'T GET IT TRUMP KNOWS EVERYTHING HE INTENTIONALLY HAD HIS LAWYER IMPLICATE HIM DIRECTLY IN A FEDERAL CRIME SO TRUMP CAN GO TO PRISON AND TAKE DOWN THE SYSTEM FROM THE INSIDE

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    It's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when". They might not get him on collision but they'll have enough to force him out.
    I don't see it. Trump is the Republican party. He is extremely popular with Republican voters and anyone on the right who crosses him is going to become unelectable. Trump really captured something, that the tea party wave was never about conservatism but instead white nationalism. He made the GOP officially a blood and soil party and that's apparently what GOP voters want now.

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    I don't see it. Trump is the Republican party. He is extremely popular with Republican voters and anyone on the right who crosses him is going to become unelectable. Trump really captured something, that the tea party wave was never about conservatism but instead white nationalism. He made the GOP a blood and soil party and that's apparently what GOP voters want now.
    A bit of a simplification. The GOP is a bit broader than that, but that is what wins GOP primaries.

    The "we're not racists, but..." schtick is pretty much not fooling anyone anymore.

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    A bit of a simplification. The GOP is a bit broader than that, but that is what wins GOP primaries.

    The "we're not racists, but..." schtick is pretty much not fooling anyone anymore.
    If the GOP base is broader than that why is Trump so wildly popular with GOP voters? If conservatism mattered you'd think there would be a big movement on the right to oust Trump and install Pence. But there isn't, GOP voters are fiercely loyal to the Dear Leader.

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    I don't see it. Trump is the Republican party. He is extremely popular with Republican voters and anyone on the right who crosses him is going to become unelectable. Trump really captured something, that the tea party wave was never about conservatism but instead white nationalism. He made the GOP officially a blood and soil party and that's apparently what GOP voters want now.
    Yep, Darrin and TSA prove that Trump's cult of personality doesn't care about anything silly like laws or conservative values of any kind.

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    If the GOP base is broader than that why is Trump so wildly popular with GOP voters? If conservatism mattered you'd think there would be a big movement on the right to oust Trump and install Pence. But there isn't, GOP voters are fiercely loyal to the Dear Leader.
    Eight years of a black man running the country made a third of the voting population go insane.

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    hanging on to political power and not losing face online are more important than ridding the most powerful office in the world of a crook.

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    Eight years of a black man running the country made a third of the voting population go insane.
    Eyup. What is funny is that Trump is EVERYTHING bad that they said Clinton and Obama were.
    "tan suit" and "Dijon mus "... how quaint.

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    hanging on to political power and not losing face online are more important than ridding the most powerful office in the world of a crook.
    GOP has been "win at any cost" for a while now. The lack of scruples is sort of a defining feature of the modern GOP. They lost their way during the "revolution" in the 90's and have been drifting since, in a slow motion decline.

    You can't do that much gerrymandering and not have that stain your soul, IMO. Cheating... ish.

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    That that Dems aren't blameless when it comes to bare knuckles politics, but you can't say the parties are "equal" in anything.

    The indictments scorecard alone give that the lie.

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    That that Dems aren't blameless when it comes to bare knuckles politics, but you can't say the parties are "equal" in anything.

    The indictments scorecard alone give that the lie.
    THAT'S BECAUSE DEEP STATE

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    I don't see it. Trump is the Republican party. He is extremely popular with Republican voters and anyone on the right who crosses him is going to become unelectable. Trump really captured something, that the tea party wave was never about conservatism but instead white nationalism. He made the GOP officially a blood and soil party and that's apparently what GOP voters want now.

    Yeah, as shown by those 20 or so people who showed up at Unite the Right.

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    Yeah, as shown by those 20 or so people who showed up at Unite the Right.
    The guy's entire early campaign was about Obama's birth certificate. Then the rest of it was about PC, it's ok to be open racists.

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    Yeah, as shown by those 20 or so people who showed up at Unite the Right.
    Why do you support Trump, Darrin?

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    In Trump’s right-wing media universe, it was a day like any other

    a
    link from Sean Hannity of Fox News appears, announcing the intention of Michael Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer, to enter a guilty plea but omitting the fact that Cohen’s admission implicates the president.

    A minute later,
    another link from Hannity comes through, this one about a former congressional IT
    staffer
    targeted by conspiracy theories cooked up by right-wing media and advanced by the president.

    Trump’s carefully curated feed is a reflection of the ideological chasm that’s dividing the media and splintering society.


    Tuesday offered vivid evidence of the way in which

    right-wing media insulates Trump, and his most devoted supporters, from blunt assessments of his administration.

    Alongside a Daily Caller story about Cohen were laudatory posts about Trump, from the president’s
    defense of free speech to

    his status as “the most feminist president.

    TheBlaze gave prominence to
    Trump’s attacks on ESPN for not “defending our anthem,”

    foregrounding the president’s
    grievances with NFL players who kneel during the national anthem to protest police violence.

    conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh asserted that special counsel

    Robert S. Mueller III isn’t interested in what Trump’s former attorney has to say.


    “Remember, Mueller passed off the Michael Cohen case,” he said.

    the only “BREAKING NEWS” alert he would have seen was the one from Fox about

    the 24-year-old undo ented immigrant from Mexico who law enforcement officials say
    killed Mollie Tibbetts,

    the 20-year-old college student who disappeared last month in Iowa. The story led Fox’s homepage much of the day.

    the spin of Ann Coulter, the conservative commentator.

    She
    labeled the guilty plea “100% political”

    and
    asserted without evidence, as the president has often done, that

    it was actually Hillary Clinton who colluded with the Russians during the 2016 campaign.

    Nowhere on Trump’s Twitter feed could he find the conclusions of others in the media that Tuesday was unparalleled in possible peril for his administration.

    Hannity dismissed Tuesday’s news as a bloodthirsty campaign against the president.

    “The media is once again beside themselves with false reporting, speculation and hysteria,”

    he said. Hannity maintained that the wrongdoing targeted by prosecutors

    had “zero to do with Donald Trump or the Trump campaign” but was seized on by Mueller to smear the president.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/22/how-right-wing-media-dealt-with-a-devastating-day-for-trump/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.161f8123c0a5&wpisrc=nl_mo st&wpmm=1



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    There has already been collusion, you witted simpleton.

    The Steele dossier outlined a bunch of people in Trumps orbit, including Cohen who met with various Russian officials.

    Every single one of those meetings was confirmed to one degree or another, but they could never quite find enough on Cohen to 100% confirm it. *from what was available publicly.

    So now, Cohen is going to detail just how he committed treason with the S bag Donny.

    Now, if you can get your tongue out of S bag Donny's trousers long enough to read:

    Why the question of whether Michael Cohen visited Prague is massively important for Donald Trump

    https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/172366...steele-dossier


    Why would the presidents personal lawyer secretly travel to Prague to meet with Russian officials?
    trying to push the failed McClatchy report that no other news organization would touch.

    At least Pavlov has some company now.

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    They will get him on collusion, and obstruction of justice in multiple cases.

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    trying to push the failed McClatchy report that no other news organization would touch.

    At least Pavlov has some company now.
    trying to laugh it all off.

    You are one deluded chicken er.

    Steele Dossier is batting 100% when it comes to outlining people related to Trump that colluded with Russia in some way.

    What will your dumb ass say when Cohen starts talking about his meeting in Prague, moron?

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    Eight years of a black man running the country made a third of the voting population go insane.
    pretty much this. they're not rational actors

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    Steele Dossier is batting 100% when it comes to outlining people related to Trump that colluded with Russia in some way.

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    You have reached the Robert Mueller Plea Deal Hotline, all Special Agents are busy with other traitors, please hold for the next available Agent

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    So which one hasn't panned out, in your mind? Do tell.

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    Key roles of Manafort, Cohen, and Page
    That then-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort had "managed" the "conspiracy of co-operation", and that he used Trump's foreign policy adviser, Carter Page, and others, "as intermediaries".[99][100] (Dossier, p. 7)
    That Page had "conceived and promoted" the idea of leaking the stolen DNC emails to WikiLeaks during the 2016 Democratic National Convention.[101][92] (Dossier, pp. 7, 17)
    That Cohen played a "key role" in the Trump–Russia relationship[3] by maintaining a "covert relationship with Russia",[102][103][104] arranging cover-ups and "deniable cash payments",[56][35] and that his role had grown after Manafort had left the campaign.[105][101] (Dossier, pp. 18, 30, 32, 34–35)
    That "COHEN now was heavily engaged in a cover up and damage limitation operation in the attempt to prevent the full details of TRUMP's relationship with Russia being exposed."[101][94] (Dossier, p. 32)
    Cohen was central to this effort. This is what they have.

    So, we will get to see if the dossier was correct in this, as it has been proven out where things can be proven out.

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    Michael Cohen
    The dossier alleges that Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen, met with Russian officials in Prague in 2016 with the objective of paying those who had hacked the DNC and to "cover up all traces of the hacking operation". Cohen has denied the allegations against him,[35][56][57] stating that he was in Los Angeles between August 23 and 29, and in New York for the entire month of September[119] and that "I have never been to Prague in my life".[128] According to a Czech intelligence source, there is no record of him entering Prague by plane, but Respekt magazine and Politico pointed out that he could have entered by car or train from a neighboring country within the Schengen Area, for example Italy. In the latter case, a record of Cohen entering the Schengen zone from a non-Schengen country should exist.[129][130] McClatchy reported that "investigators have traced evidence that Cohen entered the Czech Republic through Germany",[118] which was confirmed by The Spectator citing an intelligence source in London.[131] Mother Jones reported that Cohen had told them "I was in Prague for one afternoon 14 years ago," contradicting later statements that he had never visited.[107]
    Cohen has denied meeting in Prague, which is likely a lie.

    His guilty plea means that Mueller now will have access to proof of this meeting, and his cooperation with Mueller will be the key to securing leniency for himself for the crimes he has so far admitted to

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