Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[RandomGuy]

trying to push the failed McClatchy report that no other news organization would touch.

At least Pavlov has some company now.

"Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel and is more than happy to tell the special counsel all that he knows, not just about the obvious possibility of a conspiracy to collude and corrupt the American democracy system in the 2016 election which the Trump Tower meeting was all about, but also knowledge about the computer crime of hacking and whether or not Mr. Trump knew ahead of time about that crime and even cheered it on."

Hillary Clinton: still not locked up, or indicted.

[boutons_deux]

Repug leadership responding

to the undeniable fact that their Dear Fascist so-called President

committed a Federal crime to be illegitimately elected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=K8E_zMLCRNg

[Pavlov]

lol

[Reck]

Why do you support Trump, Darrin?

Trump had Darrin support at "I hate blacks."

[DarrinS]

Trump had Darrin support at "I hate blacks."

When did he say that?

Oh, I know. Never.

[Reck]

When did he say that?

Oh, I know. Never.

Not in so many words. But his actions speak for himself.

[Pavlov]

When did he say that?

Oh, I know. Never.

So why do you support Trump?

[Reck]

Trump goes on TV and admits the money came from him. That's another federal offence because when he signed the campaign finance form he omitted that little nugget, says Norman Eisen.

Bumbling idiot.

[Trill Clinton]

Trump is basically saying stop snitching

[Reck]

[djohn2oo8]

Damn Chris really took the Manafort news hard

[Isitjustme?]

Eight years of a black man running the country made a third of the voting population go insane.

Troof

[RandomGuy]

When did he say that?

Oh, I know. Never.

Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel

[spurraider21]

with an actual jury verdict, at least we wont be seeing the "he was pressured to plead guilty to a felony by mueller's strong-arm tactics" stuff

[TSA]

with an actual jury verdict, at least we wont be seeing the "he was pressured to plead guilty to a felony by mueller's strong-arm tactics" stuff

That’s exactly what happened with count #8 for Cohen. He plead guilty to a crime that is not a crime. He did so for leniency on the actual crimes he committed.

“There appear to be two payments involved in this unusual plea - Cohen pleaded guilty to a campaign finance violation for having "coordinated" the American Media Inc. payment to Karen McDougal for her story, not for actually making the payment. So he is pleading guilty over a corporate contribution he did not make.

Now, when it comes to Stormy Daniels, Cohen made a payment a few days before the election that Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani says was reimbursed. First, given that this payment was on Oct. 27, it would never have been reported before the election campaign and so, for all intents and purposes, was immaterial as it relates to any effect on the campaign. What's clear in this plea deal is that, in exchange for overall leniency on his massive tax evasion, Cohen is pleading guilty to these other charges as an attempt to give prosecutors what they want - a Trump connection.

The usual procedures here would be for the FEC to investigate complaints and sort through these murky laws to determine if these kinds of payments are personal in nature or more properly classified as campaign expenditures. And, on the Daniels payment that was made and reimbursed by Trump, it is again a question of whether that was made for personal reasons (especially since they have been trying since 2011 to obtain agreement). Just because it would be helpful to the campaign does not convert it to a campaign expenditure. Think of a candidate with bad teeth who had dental work done to look better for the campaign; his campaign still could not pay for it because it's a personal expenditure.“

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-hou...mpression=true

[spurraider21]

there's an actual jury verdict against manafort. that's who i was referring to, TSA

i know its hard to keep track of all these trump associates in legal issues, so i dont blame you

[TSA]

there's an actual jury verdict against manafort. that's who i was referring to, TSA

i know its hard to keep track of all these trump associates in legal issues, so i dont blame you

Understood.

[spurraider21]

That’s exactly what happened with count #8 for Cohen. He plead guilty to a crime that is not a crime. He did so for leniency on the actual crimes he committed.

“There appear to be two payments involved in this unusual plea - Cohen pleaded guilty to a campaign finance violation for having "coordinated" the American Media Inc. payment to Karen McDougal for her story, not for actually making the payment. So he is pleading guilty over a corporate contribution he did not make.

Now, when it comes to Stormy Daniels, Cohen made a payment a few days before the election that Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani says was reimbursed. First, given that this payment was on Oct. 27, it would never have been reported before the election campaign and so, for all intents and purposes, was immaterial as it relates to any effect on the campaign. What's clear in this plea deal is that, in exchange for overall leniency on his massive tax evasion, Cohen is pleading guilty to these other charges as an attempt to give prosecutors what they want - a Trump connection.

The usual procedures here would be for the FEC to investigate complaints and sort through these murky laws to determine if these kinds of payments are personal in nature or more properly classified as campaign expenditures. And, on the Daniels payment that was made and reimbursed by Trump, it is again a question of whether that was made for personal reasons (especially since they have been trying since 2011 to obtain agreement). Just because it would be helpful to the campaign does not convert it to a campaign expenditure. Think of a candidate with bad teeth who had dental work done to look better for the campaign; his campaign still could not pay for it because it's a personal expenditure.“

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-hou...mpression=true

please elaborate

[Reck]

Pleaded guilty to a crime that isn't a crime.

TSA has lost it completely.

[TSA]

please elaborate

The payments weren’t campaign expenditures. Money from the campaign wasn’t used.

[TSA]

Pleaded guilty to a crime that isn't a crime.

TSA has lost it completely.

I’ll take the word of a former FEC chairman.

[djohn2oo8]

I’ll take the word of a former FEC chairman.

You are just a dumbass who will fall for any theory.

[TSA]

You are just a dumbass who will fall for any theory.

“When the FEC wrote the regulation that says what cons utes campaign expenditures and what cons utes personal use, it rejected specifically the idea that a campaign expenditure was anything related to a campaign, and instead says it has to be something that exists only because of the campaign and solely for that reason.”—Bradley Smith former FEC Chairman

[djohn2oo8]

“When the FEC wrote the regulation that says what cons utes campaign expenditures and what cons utes personal use, it rejected specifically the idea that a campaign expenditure was anything related to a campaign, and instead says it has to be something that exists only because of the campaign and solely for that reason.”—Bradley Smith former FEC Chairman

pled guilty.

[Pavlov]

“When the FEC wrote the regulation that says what cons utes campaign expenditures and what cons utes personal use, it rejected specifically the idea that a campaign expenditure was anything related to a campaign, and instead says it has to be something that exists only because of the campaign and solely for that reason.”—Bradley Smith former FEC Chairman

These payments were made only because there was a campaign and solely that reason.