Leonard not playing next season will destroy his value and be completely transparent.
Maybe he's willing to give up the supermax but if doesn't play again next season that would raise a million red flags about him to the entire league.
wasnt there a tweet a couple days ago stating he is completely healthy? or at least like 95%
Leonard not playing next season will destroy his value and be completely transparent.
Maybe he's willing to give up the supermax but if doesn't play again next season that would raise a million red flags about him to the entire league.
I am leaning towards dragging it out to the DPE deadline (after the pre-season but before the regular season) with the Spurs only offering it after he proves he's healthy he'll have to answer for his -assery during media availability and after every game while also having to weigh whether he want's to turn down $220 million.
I think him and Pop have a legitimately good relationship and it could recover but Parker is probably dead to Kawhi, but not so much that it'll keep him from returning if he decides to.
Yeah they came out after reports were saying that the Lakers and Clippers were being wary about dealing for Leonard after injuries concerns... and Kawhi's group tried to squash those concerns by saying that he's 100% healthy now.
Implicit with NBA players getting long term guaranteed contracts is that they don't pull bush league bull like holding out.
No way he does that again, "he'll show up to his job and half ass it, like a true American" (Simpsons reference)
If the Spurs do give in and give him the DPE, then he better not though or they can move him to another team after a year.
Man a lot of guys think he’ll stay now, based on what RC said? They wanna keep him, not surprising, but nothing from kawhis camp suggesting a desire to stay
Honestly think this is horrible tactics from his uncle to get him the supermax, we shall see where this goes next.
Agreed
I don't necessarily think they're going to keep him, I just think it would be the funniest outcome..I wonder what Jabari would do
I really don't know what to expect from this anymore(other than not getting a good trade package in return)..it's one of the most confusing things I've ever seen in pro sports..so many reports, so many leaks, an unconventional/amateur agency, the player in question never saying a word, etc..
I acknowledge Tony and Manu are both justifiably in the Spurs' pantheon, however, I have wanted to part ways with them for some time. If Kawhi is back, I suspect I will get my wish. So, I expect that issue to be resolved prior to pre-season play. That will go some way toward repairing the rift and creating a more comfortable team atmosphere. I honestly don't know about Kawhi and Pop. The LA radio guys got my attention with their take on the real reasons behind this situation. I also do not believe that he will ever want to be the face of the franchise. That means that PATFO will have to hope one of their newer, more "leadership" oriented guys is up to the task. In the meanwhile, it means that Patty will be retained. He will be as close to the old Manu/Tony spokesmen that we have. That probably also has a lot to do with why Pop likes Murray much more than I. He is certainly willing to be the face of the franchise leader and spokesman.
Anyhow, I see your point. It is a good one. It may take till then to resolve the situation.
That would be a good start, but they need to clear out more clutter than that. The quan y of guards on this team needs to be replaced with quality.
Camp Kawhi must be so pissed off that Kawhi wasn't traded to the Lakers.
Probably blaming Kawhi for not being a big enough jerk to Pop.
Maybe made Kawhi go pick out a belt to get his punishment.
Dude it really is. I can’t think of a more bizarre story ever in the NBA, and as you mentioned, maybe in all of pro sports. Blake Griffin and the Clips locking DeAndre Jordan in his own home was crazy, but it was more funny than anything (unless you’re a Mavs fan). But this Kawhi is just nuts and nobody knows how it’s going to end. Wild.
I think Manu may just retire while Parker is brought back, in a reduced role (18-20 mpg behind Murray). He's the best player on the Spurs and also the highest paid, being the face of the franchise comes with the territory.
If he can't handle that, then that is every bit as concerning as Uncle Dennis' involvement in his career.
There was a report that he was unhappy with Pop's coaching-I am paraphrasing. I could see a change to a more modern style of play with a tweaked lineup that has multiple ball handler's and without the traditional two-big man SL (Murray, Mills, Kawhi, Gay/Anderson, Aldridge).
That is probably the biggest change the Spurs could make internally without much in the way of other options to improve the team.
+1
I was thinking that one lately. In a whole career as a fan I never seen a situation like that.
It's going to be VERY interesting when the season begins.
I like what Spurs did not giving up on the top 2 player but not giving in to his demand. The ball is on Kawhi’s side now to prove himself 100% healthy and back to pre-injury. Spurs drafted two athletic scorers, with high motor who can defend and agile. I like our chances going in. This draft is so deep and yet I still think both players are steal at 18 and 49.
In Kawhi's case that simply isn't true. As I have been saying for months, that is part of the Spurs' quandary: having a top 3 player in the league who will not ever be the face of ANY franchise. Man, he more than proved that this last 9 months. So, they have to use a new paradigm where your best and highest paid player is NOT the face of the franchise. They have to find another guy to fill that role and let Kawhi's work on the court speak for itself. It is really an unprecedented situation with an unprecedented player.
Sort of similar to the Warriors situation with Durant,Curry not being able to be leaders and having Draymond take up the leadership role. The difference in this situation is both Durant and Curry are more than willing to the face of their franchise. Spurs will have to have someone else take up the leadership role and also be the face of the franchise. It's a very weird situation.
What RC said was not encouraging tbh
Say what you want but that team didn’t even get a chance to see what it could do..Cause Kawhi pulled that stunt. Could they have won a le?? I dunno but Curry was out in the first round and Warriors were vulnerable..Kawhi said “ Off”.
This ty roster was still in the WCF and dominant in Game 1. And tbh dominant against the Warriors...don’t forget on the 30 point blow out Game 1 of season in Oracle..But yeah back to WCF Game 1 which is a broken record but it’s still factual and I don’t care what any PATFO hater says that “feeling” of a championship run was there. Especially because of the previous game against Houston which they won by 40!!!!..which was unexpected tbh.
During this Warriors run other than last playoffs and this year NOBODY has beaten the Warriors more. Pop knows how to compete against them..he’s just been out manned recently and against that team every player is needed..
The contracts sucked (Pau, Patty) but they swung for the fence and missed..and running it back with the team that got Zaza’d wasn’t a bad fall back optio..Spurs can always deal with the contracts later...maybe this offseason.
But they Spurs have tried and been compe ive WITH Kawhi 60 games plus the past 2 years.
Spurs fans just too spoiled bruh
I don't think the Warriors are as dominant as people make them out to be. I think they are a soft team that will crumble when facing adversity. The last 2 years they have had luckiest situations where they top opponent suffered injuries to either their best player ala Kawhi or their second best player ala CP3.
Offensive length and rebounding and limiting them to ONE shot is what made us match up with them. We invented the switch defense against them when held the 73 win team to 74 points...
They can’t guard Kawhi or LMA on the block. We took efficient shots and they launched bad shots (3’s) which is key on limiting them to one shot..
We have the formula to compete but without Kawhi who can bother KD we’re hopeless
LMA having a fit last year is irrelevant to our discussion about the effort made to make Leonard happy.
Your other "points" are just silly attempts to on the biggest FA signing in franchise history.
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