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    You see, I know what kind of fan you are already... you are the type that will dog players during the off season, but once the Spurs sign a guy like Shaq and he averages double digits in rebounding you'll be wetting your panties over his play.
    Spurs NEED SHAQ. They don't need Barnes, he sucks. He had one good series in 07 against the Mavs and that's it! Who else do you envision singing at the SF position? Tracy Mcgrady? If the Spurs sign RJ, they should sign Shaq as well, then try to trade for a SF. I would even say trade Blair at this point. I can tell you right now, Mcdysse & Blair will see minutes go down this season. So you should get a clue.
    I'm the kind of fan who thinks that anyone clamoring for the Spurs to sign an overweight, ballhogging 38 year old as their sixth big man when the Spurs have no small forwards currently on the roster is a full on re .

    And that's not even getting into the ridiculous idea of Shaq averaging double digit rebounding. He hasn't done it in three years, and all he had to last year to get run was beat out Carrot Top and Ilgauskas in Cleveland for minutes.

    Forget you getting a clue. You need a full on brain transplant.

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    matt barnes

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    Spurs pretty much have their big rotation set IMO, especially if Richards happens to be brought over or someone like Gist survives training camp.

    Duncan / Splitter / Dice / Blair / Bonner.

    Anybody the Spurs bring in will only take minutes from those other guys. While I wouldn't cry over lost minutes for Bonner, I'm betting the Spurs didn't give him a raise just to turn around and not play him.

    Unless Dice is traded or there is some other crazy business, I'd expect to see this frontline come training camp.

    Remaining money will probably be spent on a wing to replace Jefferson, or some other team need like a shooter or a backup point guard (since I'm not sure Pop is ready to roll with Temple quite yet) if Jefferson comes back.

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    it would be perfect if we didn't have bonner -_-

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    SPlitters deal was 10.9 million over 3 years

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    Shaquille O'Neal tops Mavericks' wish list

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    Shaq gives us nothing at the position. if you watched him play at Cleveland last year, you would know this. He's nothing more than a ball hogging fat ass. The Cavs had to wait on offense for him to get his ass up the court if they couldn't score on a fast break.

    How anyone can look at our depth chart, or even say "yeah we're okay at SF with Jefferson and Manu", and then turn around and argue that we need a sixth big is beyond me.

    , if you think we need more big man depth, we drafted a big in the second round this year. And he'll come cheaper, with a lot more energy, and a lot less drama.
    All this ^

    What is with all this romanticism and fascination with Shaq? He is everything AHF mentioned and more. He's been a whiner, moaner and complainer, even when he was dominating the NBA.

    He's a bad fit - not just for the Spurs, but for many teams. He's selfishly hanging on trying to 'steal a 5th ring", just to keep up with Kobe and to surpass Duncan. There's just no room for him. Those of you who are clamoring for him, really haven't been following his dramatic decline, poor physical condition, along with his selfish on-court and childish off-court antics.

    How can it not be obvious to everyone that this team desparately NEEDS a SF?

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    I think Shaq to the Spurs is probably a done deal if you read between the lines. With the Bonner re-acquisition and the Splitter signing, it's pretty clear the Spurs are trying to have one of every type of big man, so they can mix and match pieces based on any particular matchup.

    Duncan - The Big Fundamental. Mr Dependable. Offense and defense specialist.
    McDyess - Big Man. Shot blocker. Great shot when open at the elbow.
    Bonner - The Stretch 4. Adaptive. Solid shot that creates unique spacing for everyone else on offense.
    Blair - The Banger. Undersized center developing his skills at the four. Rebounding specialist.
    Splitter - The Low Post. Traditional center with a high BB IQ.

    The only traditional type of big man that we're missing is the slow, over-the-hill, overpaid player that cripples a team's financial flexibility for the next few years while simultaneously throwing the team into disarray while on the floor. It would be like having our own Dampier for a fraction of the price. GO GET HIM!






    (P.S. I love Shaq but he would not be a good fit for this team)

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    Now that we have an idea (not sure if it's confirmed) on what Splitter will be making... does that leave room to make Shaq an offer?
    No thanks on Shaq.

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    You see, I know what kind of fan you are already... you are the type that will dog players during the off season, but once the Spurs sign a guy like Shaq and he averages double digits in rebounding you'll be wetting your panties over his play.
    Spurs NEED SHAQ. They don't need Barnes, he sucks. He had one good series in 07 against the Mavs and that's it! Who else do you envision singing at the SF position? Tracy Mcgrady? If the Spurs sign RJ, they should sign Shaq as well, then try to trade for a SF. I would even say trade Blair at this point. I can tell you right now, Mcdysse & Blair will see minutes go down this season. So you should get a clue.
    You want to trade a 6'7" player who would average 17 rebounds per 48 with a contract making basically 1 million per year for the next three years? Lets be real, Blair may very likely have the best production to price ratio of any player on our team. Reports are that he's been working on his jumper this offseason and if he has any semblance of a mid-range shot, there is a very good chance that we see him match up against some of the leagues less athletic wing players. A lineup of Blair (SF), Duncan (PF) and Dyess or *gasp* Bonner [when their shots are falling](C) would not be easy for most teams to match up against. Of course, we'd want Blair to see the majority of his minutes at PF and we'll bring in a 6'7" true SF who can hit the occasional 3.

    I support trading McDyess, but certainly not Blair.

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    I think everyone is on the same page when we all say that the spurs should and will probably look to pick up another wing player.
    It just makes sense.
    After that, LLE is still there for shaq, that is if he wants it and if he's still available which he probably will be.

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    Blair is working on playing SF this year so that does leave a need for Shaq
    These have to be trolls guys, stop taking them seriously. Can we start banning some of these? The forum is becoming unreadable.

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    but once the Spurs sign a guy like Shaq and he averages double digits in rebounding you'll be wetting your panties over his play.
    Spurs NEED SHAQ.
    The same Shaq who got 6.7 rebounds a game last year?
    The same Shaq who hasn't been in double digits in rebounding since 2005?
    That Shaq?

    I would even say trade Blair at this point.
    You know what,

    nevermind.

    you got me.

    troll.
    Last edited by jaffies; 07-13-2010 at 12:29 AM.

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    The same Shaq who got 6.7 rebounds a game last year?
    The same Shaq who hasn't been in double digits in rebounding since 2006?
    That Shaq?



    You know what,

    nevermind.

    you got me.

    troll.
    ....has to be a troll...

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    Jeez, I don't know if some people here are just misguided or all-out re s.

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    Blair - young, talented and cheap - isn't going anywhere
    Dice - experienced, can guard Dirk - FO won't trade him as it would set bad precedent for other vet FAs.
    Shaq - guards Bynum and Howard very well, will be motivated to win his 5th
    Bonner - the odd man out - doesn't guard anyone well - chokes when wide open

    If Spurs can get any 2 of Bell/Barnes/Howard/McGrady/Butler, maybe they won't have to sign Jefferson to a long-term deal. The only thing good about Jefferson is that he's durable - just doesn't fit on the Spurs.

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    To many people see S. ONeal and think hey this is 25 points and 12 rebounds. It comes from remembering the 90's and the first half of this past decade. The problem is he hasn't gotten any less loud, he has gotten decidedly less funny, and he is definitely no lighter on legs that have been carrying 300+ lbs in the NBA for the last decade and a half. This means that while he's still tall he's now fat and slow. He never did manage to figure out that whole shooting more than 6 feet from the basket thing and he hasn't really gotten much smarter at anticipating people so pick and rolls eat him alive. Did I miss anything?

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    Guys guys guys. In our roster, there is no answer against Bynum. We have 5 bigs, but we can't defend that guy with any of them. We need Shaq against Lakers. I also know that we don't have any back-up SF on roster, but we can spend our LLE to get a player like that

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    Guys guys guys. In our roster, there is no answer against Bynum. We have 5 bigs, but we can't defend that guy with any of them. We need Shaq against Lakers. I also know that we don't have any back-up SF on roster, but we can spend our LLE to get a player like that
    There is a 63% chance he'll be injured anyway.

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    Where does that Blair andSF come from ? He's learning PF and no SF

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    Blair is working on playing SF this year so that does leave a need for Shaq
    Blair will never be a SF in this league.

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    All this ^

    What is with all this romanticism and fascination with Shaq? He is everything AHF mentioned and more. He's been a whiner, moaner and complainer, even when he was dominating the NBA.

    He's a bad fit - not just for the Spurs, but for many teams. He's selfishly hanging on trying to 'steal a 5th ring", just to keep up with Kobe and to surpass Duncan. There's just no room for him. Those of you who are clamoring for him, really haven't been following his dramatic decline, poor physical condition, along with his selfish on-court and childish off-court antics.

    How can it not be obvious to everyone that this team desparately NEEDS a SF?
    Agree.

    We had difficulties with interior defense, specifically mobility. Some of it stemmed from not having lock-down perimeter defenders who could reroute perimeter players to certain areas on the floor; but some of that also had to do with how gawdamn slow our bigs have become. Because of the Splitter contract, we have the opportunity to, with just the MLE, try and mitigate that glaring weakness somewhat.

    In Splitter, we finally have a second big in there who has length, mobility and quickness to effectively guard the P&R. And with about 2.7M we can hopefully get a respectable three point shooter and defender.

    Shaq does nothing to address these problems. The semi-disaster that was our P&R defense last year would reach catastrophe levels with Shaq.

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    Why are people saying the bigman rotation is set just because there are five bigs? Ifan upgrade becomes available, why wouldnt you pursue it. Not talking about Shaq in particular, but when McDyess and Bonner are two of your bigs, one is 6'7" and another hasnt played an NBA game, your bigman rotation isnt really 'set in stone'.

    Apart from that, in a perfect world i would seriously consider signing Shaq. Unfortunately, that perfect world probably involves him being willing to come of the bench.. and sign for the LLE - two things which probably arent possible.

    I think he would almost single handedly solve the matchup problem with the Lakers.

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    Now that we have an idea (not sure if it's confirmed) on what Splitter will be making... does that leave room to make Shaq an offer?
    Holy . Shaq isn't coming here. Get it out of your damn heads. We don't want him and he doesn't want us.

    We have 5 players at post.
    Duncan
    Splitter
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    Bonner

    We have absolutely no use for Shaq. Move the on, dumbasses.

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    Why are people saying the bigman rotation is set just because there are five bigs? Ifan upgrade becomes available, why wouldnt you pursue it. Not talking about Shaq in particular, but when McDyess and Bonner are two of your bigs, one is 6'7" and another hasnt played an NBA game, your bigman rotation isnt really 'set in stone'.

    Apart from that, in a perfect world i would seriously consider signing Shaq. Unfortunately, that perfect world probably involves him being willing to come of the bench.. and sign for the LLE - two things which probably arent possible.

    I think he would almost single handedly solve the matchup problem with the Lakers.
    I definitely agree with that last line, especially if the Lakers keep their same frontcourt in tact. They have 3 7-footers (Gasol, Bynum, Mbenga) and a 6-10 Lamar Odom.

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