Reply With QuoteIf you're not scheduled then you're not unexcused. 50 is what he needed, 52 is what he got. That's all you need to know.And fifty credits is a strangely low number based upon the fact you aren't allowed to have four unexcused absenses in a year.
We can dream.
If you're not scheduled then you're not unexcused. 50 is what he needed, 52 is what he got. That's all you need to know.And fifty credits is a strangely low number based upon the fact you aren't allowed to have four unexcused absenses in a year.
Seriously Travis answer my question gratuity points can allow you to skimp by and get out a year early? Why the low number of 50 when you can't miss more than four days? And shouldn't he not have need eligible to count those credits for his "retirement" when he was payed for them?
And another rational woman makes her appearance...:wink
Look, Despurado...those are the rules. Everyone gets 15. You gotta come up with the other 35.
You never did post the rest of that public law so I could evaluate the context. So I don't know under what conditions those rules apply. Until I can, I don't put any faith in your interpretation.
Yonivore...I'm traveling...I don't have that much underwear...:o
The four day make up thing was from you. It says you can only make up 4 days in an aniversary year.
Quote:6.6. Equivalent Training (EQT). A member may be allowed to make up a UTA that was missed even if the UTA was
missed without prior approval. EQTs can be performed in a pay status for excused absences and in a non pay status
(retirement points only) for unexcused absences.
6.6.1. Commanders may allow individuals to make up a maximum of four missed UTA periods in a paid EQT status per
fiscal year [U.S.C. le 37, Section 206(e)]. An EQT in a pay status must be performed within 30 calendar days of the
missed scheduled UTA period and within the same fiscal year.
6.6.2. An EQT period without pay (for retirement points only) may be performed outside of 30 calendar days of the
missed scheduled UTA period but within the member's anniversary year. UTAs performed in a non-pay status will
be do ented on NGB Form 105m/s or a locally subs uted form, held separately from attendance records for UTAs
in a pay status, and forwarded directly to MPF.
6.6.3. The training received during an EQT must be of similar nature and quality to that which was missed. EQT will
be appropriate to and enhance ability of the individual to accomplish the duties of the position to which he or she is
assigned. In the case of staff or support personnel, this may include actions to enhance the training, management, or
readiness of the unit.
that's only in pay status...outside of that you get credit but no pay...
But he got paid for the ones he was trying to credit towards his retirement. Those last 35 are all on the pay records.
For example:If you're not scheduled then you're not unexcused. 50 is what he needed, 52 is what he got. That's all you need to know.
I graduated from college in 3 1/2 years. My scholarship required I take at least 15 hours per semester. At the end of my Junior year my counselor informed me that if I took 2 classes per summer term, 18 hours my senior fall semester and a weekend college class that over-lapped the two I could graduate a semester early. I needed 129 for my degree, and I graduated with 128, with honors.
Since I didn't go the whole 4 years, is my diploma somehow negated? I mean, I missed an entire semester.
Bush is a disgrace to the uniform.
They give out a free class credit each semester in college? Gee I wish all life were like that. I know what you are saying SW I am just trying to understand the last few issues.
No, that means I got what I needed to get.....he got what he needed to get.
I'm assuming that EVERYONE got the 15 credits just for being in the guard.
If that weren't the case, I'm sure he'd have shown up the required time to earn them.
But he didn't NEED to.
I'm just really pissed off at this though his first year he got what 300+ credits? That is an active person. Serving his counrty. Yet someone can apparently get by getting only about 10% 35 credits and be given an honourable discharge. Thats. messed up. And wouldn't he have been eligible to leave the guard after the first two years if he had that many credits racked up?
The first two years was about 80 weeks of non-stop flight training you bozo.
Still he had enough credits in two years to retire apparently if you can apply a year to your future requirements. He had 253 his first year and 310 the next.
Well, the fact that the the war was winding down and the need for an already over-abundance of fighter pilots diminished might have been very relavent as to why his *service* dropped off.
I still want to know the answers to these two questions:
Can you really apply credits to the future? If so why wasn't anyone trying to say he acquired enough points in his first years of service to qualify for the discharge?
Can You be paid for those credits and still count them as EQT?
Or the fact that was three sheets to the wind and would have failed his physical.
Or the fact that he was missing so much he never got an assignment?
Or the fact that he just plain wasn't around?
Wasn't he on "G" (non-paid) status anyway? What difference would that make?Can You be paid for those credits and still count them as EQT?
I don't think you can apply them to the future, but it really doesn't matter. He got the 50 he needed to fulfill his requirements in the time he needed ot fulfill them. I'm stumped at why you don't understand that.
As far as I know you can't "bank" points. But as SW said, it's irrelevant...
Does this remind anyone else of a Whottt Thread?
Actually, yes I did realize that, Spurm. However, it still beat out the disaster area I made of my kitchen for my attention.
:o
Ok I am back:
50 points is apparently for active duty training right travis?
You negelcted to mention there is another 44 credit requirement for inactive duty? Combining the two in the points credited apparently is what we have been doing so far...I've been racking my brain to see where the number 12 came from for the US news report.
What does this mean travis? Have we been evaluating bush on the right system? Does he get free 15 credits for both systems?
A review of the regulations governing Bush's Guard service during the Vietnam War shows that the White House used an inappropriate--and less stringent--Air Force standard in determining that he had fulfilled his duty. Because Bush signed a six-year "military service obligation," he was required to attend at least 44 inactive-duty training drills each fiscal year beginning July 1. But Bush's own records show that he fell short of that requirement, attending only 36 drills in the 1972-73 period, and only 12 in the 1973-74 period. The White House has said that Bush's service should be calculated using 12-month periods beginning on his induction date in May 1968. Using this time frame, however, Bush still fails the Air Force obligation standard.
Moreover, White House officials say, Bush should be judged on whether he attended enough drills to count toward retirement. They say he ac ulated sufficient points under this grading system. Yet, even using their method, which some military experts say is incorrect, U.S. News 's analysis shows that Bush once again fell short. His military records reveal that he failed to attend enough active-duty training and weekend drills to gain the 50 points necessary to count his final year toward retirement.
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