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    I know I haven't always been on topic or very mature about some of the stuff on here
    Understatement of the century.

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    Theists embarrass themselves when they call atheists immoral. They're basically admitting that a fairy tale is the only thing preventing them from going on a killing spree.

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    Cool so you hate when people talk about their kids. I thought this thread was about the kids that were murdered. How that relates to newborn baby pics or kids with ice cream and cake all over their face is beyond me.
    I'm a jerk, an ahole and usually insensitive person. However, my heart still breaks at reading about those poor kids. Why can't you guys take a break from trying to show how smart you are and how much you know about gun laws or how you are so important and everyone else is beneath you?
    Sometimes this goes too far. I know I haven't always been on topic or very mature about some of the stuff on here but this isn't about somebody losing weight or showing off their calf tatts, this is a real tragedy.
    There was a sidebar that I responded to, counsel, it wasn't the main topic. There are three threads about this topic on spurstalk (two serious). Yes, I am sad about this happening too. I don't know a lot about gun laws, but I am learning more every time one of these things happens (learning curve is sharp since these incidents are happening with greater frequency). I think you are lumping me in with certain people with whom I don't belong because I agree on one thing.

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    Cool so you hate when people talk about their kids. I thought this thread was about the kids that were murdered. How that relates to newborn baby pics or kids with ice cream and cake all over their face is beyond me.
    I'm a jerk, an ahole and usually insensitive person. However, my heart still breaks at reading about those poor kids. Why can't you guys take a break from trying to show how smart you are and how much you know about gun laws or how you are so important and everyone else is beneath you?
    Sometimes this goes too far. I know I haven't always been on topic or very mature about some of the stuff on here but this isn't about somebody losing weight or showing off their calf tatts, this is a real tragedy.
    Oh shut the up, you're the original cantthinkofanything. You don't get to play preacher now.

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    It's ilegal to bring a gun on school property. You also have to be 21 to own a gun, and the shooter was 20. I dont think it matters all that much to someone that is wanting to commit a criminal act what is or isnt ilegal
    Last edited by Chomag; 12-15-2012 at 01:41 PM.

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    I haven't read this thread but I assume its mostly about gun control. I honestly think this event might be the straw that broke the camels back and this may be the start of way stricter gun laws.....

    As an avid hunter and outdoorsman, as well as a huge proponent of gun ownership, I'm not even gonna argue it either.....this event scares me too much.....

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    Some fool on WOAI 1200 said this is the work of Satan and that there is no other explanation. Remember guy.. This is all apart of God's plan!!! We're gonna be okay!!!

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    Some fool on WOAI 1200 said this is the work of Satan and that there is no other explanation. Remember guy.. This is all apart of God's plan!!! We're gonna be okay!!!
    I like the Mike Huckabee explanation better. According to him, god decided not to help a bunch of 5-6 year olds who I'm guessing have no political opinion on the matter because this country passed laws those kids had nothing to do with that doesn't allow prayer in public schools. Apparently god is an insecure sycophant who had the power to stop this but chose not to because public schools don't worship him enough and he's only gonna help those who worship him. And people wonder why atheism is growing.

    But of course, leftist lib s are the only ones who cold heartedly use these tragedies as a political talking point.

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    Oh shut the up, you're the original cantthinkofanything. You don't get to play preacher now.
    I'm not preaching. If this were about your favorite ice cream or if gays should be married then yes I would be right there with you. It's not though. It's about 5-7 year old kids that were murdered. It's about parents who lost their children, kids who saw their friends murdered and have to live with that for the rest of their lives, people who lost loved ones.

    It was a horrible tragedy and I don't see how it opens the door clowning on each other or showing superiority over others.

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    There was a sidebar that I responded to, counsel, it wasn't the main topic. There are three threads about this topic on spurstalk (two serious). Yes, I am sad about this happening too. I don't know a lot about gun laws, but I am learning more every time one of these things happens (learning curve is sharp since these incidents are happening with greater frequency). I think you are lumping me in with certain people with whom I don't belong because I agree on one thing.
    Why there is even one that is NOT serious is beyond me.
    This wasn't totally directed at you btw. I just can't help but thinking about what those kids must have seen. I didn't mean to lump you in with any group and for that I apologize.

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    Why there is even one that is NOT serious is beyond me.
    This wasn't totally directed at you btw. I just can't help but thinking about what those kids must have seen. I didn't mean to lump you in with any group and for that I apologize.
    No problem, and honestly as I wrote in another thread (or maybe this one), it didn't hit me at all until what the kids saw was related in their own words (or second hand through their parents).

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    Which of the other threads was supposed to be serious again?

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    Which of the other threads was supposed to be serious again?
    The non-official conspiracy one in the political forum.

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    Which of the other threads was supposed to be serious again?
    The ones that do not say ***Official***.

    Seriously... "Official."

    LOL...

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    Regarding the disarming Americans thing... If I was to kill 20 kids I could use a chainsaw, an ax, a lawnmower and an acetylene torch and nobody could stop me. Sounds like Obomber is trying to tie this incident in to disarm us.

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    the little british tea and crumpet eating ignoring the fact that his country has higher violent crime rate than mine and quickly pulling the homicide card. the reason the homicide rate here is higher is because the people who migrated here and risked their lives for prosperity and stood up to the tyrants in britain were some red blooded, no bull ting mother ers who were bout it bout it and this country has always been pretty rowdy. i'd take 1/4 the amount of muggings, rapes, and robbers because those ers have to think twice about who they are ing with rather than live in a domesticated society where the government rules our lives. but it's good you have your own opinions i guess, i mean it couldn't really be any other way. after all, if you were on my side odds are your ancestors would have migrated here to get away from tyranny long ago imho. that's the difference between me and you, my ancestors did something about it. took the better half of the gene pool with them, we prospered more than you guys did and still do.

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    It would be great if one of the gun control advocates here wanted to have a discussion on existing gun laws. Unfortunately, as you pointed out, none of them know existing gun laws. They also don't know anything about guns, so when they say certain guns shouldn't be legal to own, they cannot accurately define the gun and cannot tell you why it shouldn't be on in any terms that make sense to someone who does know guns. I even saw one person speak about how easy it is to get the "evil features" like forearm grips and sights that makes guns look so evil and cool. That was before it was known the shooter didn't use the Bushmaster .223.

    I understand the feeling of frustration over these things, but information is out there and readily available to anyone who wants it. There's no excuse for being ignorant of the same laws you're trying to change.
    No guns should be owned. Hunting should also be banned. Why do people get a thrill killing some animal? Unfortunately there are too many guns already in the country so nothing will change and these events will continue to happen.

    I don't need to know anything about guns. I don't have one and will never have one.

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    I thought you were native bro

    Are u mixed

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    Regarding the disarming Americans thing... If I was to kill 20 kids I could use a chainsaw, an ax, a lawnmower and an acetylene torch and nobody could stop me. Sounds like Obomber is trying to tie this incident in to disarm us.
    like Obama's boy Rahm said, never let a crisis go to waste. that's what power hungry types do, exploit these situations. I also think his crying in his speech seemed fake, or at least overly dramatized.

    as for this shooting, I hate to say it but i've become numb to this stuff. There's been so many, it's a growing epidemic and that is what disturbs me the most. This one is particularly horrible because of a mom being killed and a bunch of children, so it's basically the lowest of the ing low. I just hope this guy was in fact some autistic head case because you really don't want to think a regular person could do this, but I never doubt the evil of humanity.

    I still think the Columbine shocked me the most. I'm not sure if it was because I was just out of high school, or if it was because it was 2 sick s working together, which makes it even more disturbing. Also the fact that police hung around outside for a few hours while those 2 s stalked and killed people, the fact that it went on for so long was horrible, and like i said, the fact that two people could agree to do such a thing instead of it being a lone bad person.

    I haven't read up on the details of this shooting and tbh, I probably won't. All it does is put me in a dark place and nothing can be done about what happened.

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    Damn you less liberals are some domesticated pieces of work. 1776 is why you're free to do the things you want, such as watching while large black men plow your wife with s longer than the barrel of this dude's rifle. You'd just as soon turn in your freedom and become a slave because like everyone else in this country, we've gone soft. How quickly people forget, the founding fathers gave us the 2nd amendment because they had incredible foresight and wanted to avoid the tyranny they shed BLOOD to defeat. The only sacrifice you have to make on a daily basis is sacrificing sleep for more time for tv or vice versa..you've never studied history and don't know what the you are talking about. You're only as free as you demand to be and people like you don't deserve to live free. You don't have the balls for it. PS - hitler was also for gun control, why don't you go off my 2nd amendment.
    You are a white guy who wants to be a black pimp. What a loser.

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    Why do people get a thrill killing some animal?
    Idk why don't you ask yourself next time you eat a burger got.

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    You are a white guy who wants to be a black pimp. What a loser.
    Says the guy who's become so domesticated and doesn't know what the he's talking about that if people were like him in 1776 we'd all be sucking british . you, you're a treasonous traitor and a threat to my sovereignty. I'll fight ers like you with everything that I've got until something gives, people like you and me cannot coexist.

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    No guns should be owned. Hunting should also be banned. Why do people get a thrill killing some animal? Unfortunately there are too many guns already in the country so nothing will change and these events will continue to happen.

    I don't need to know anything about guns. I don't have one and will never have one.
    Hunting is fairly necessary tbh, unless you want to drive over deer carcasses on your way to work.

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    Ebert had some solid takes on the horrible way this was reported by the mass media:

    http://kottke.org/12/12/roger-ebert-...hool-shootings

    Let me tell you a story. The day after Columbine, I was interviewed for the Tom Brokaw news program. The reporter had been assigned a theory and was seeking sound bites to support it. "Wouldn't you say," she asked, "that killings like this are influenced by violent movies?" No, I said, I wouldn't say that. "But what about 'Basketball Diaries'?" she asked. "Doesn't that have a scene of a boy walking into a school with a machine gun?" The obscure 1995 Leonardo Di Caprio movie did indeed have a brief fantasy scene of that nature, I said, but the movie failed at the box office (it grossed only $2.5 million), and it's unlikely the Columbine killers saw it.

    The reporter looked disappointed, so I offered her my theory. "Events like this," I said, "if they are influenced by anything, are influenced by news programs like your own. When an unbalanced kid walks into a school and starts shooting, it becomes a major media event. Cable news drops ordinary programming and goes around the clock with it. The story is assigned a logo and a theme song; these two kids were packaged as the Trench Coat Mafia. The message is clear to other disturbed kids around the country: If I shoot up my school, I can be famous. The TV will talk about nothing else but me. Experts will try to figure out what I was thinking. The kids and teachers at school will see they shouldn't have messed with me. I'll go out in a blaze of glory."

    In short, I said, events like Columbine are influenced far less by violent movies than by CNN, the NBC Nightly News and all the other news media, who glorify the killers in the guise of "explaining" them. I commended the policy at the Sun-Times, where our editor said the paper would no longer feature school killings on Page 1. The reporter thanked me and turned off the camera. Of course the interview was never used. They found plenty of talking heads to condemn violent movies, and everybody was happy.

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