As we all know, it is extremely unlikely that the Spurs trade for Josh Smith. Any package that doesn't include Leonard or Splitter would not inspire Atlanta. I could see a trade with the Suns or the 76ers as the most likely.
I must admit I do love seeing Dallas in the rumors. They have no assets other than the ability to take on salary, and yet they think Atlanta is going to take that deal for Smith, when just keeping Smith for the rest of the season and letting him walk will give them plenty of salary relief (and they already have salary cap relief thanks to the Joe Johnson trade). It reminds me of all those Knick rumors about top 5 NBA players they were going to get with their scrubs.
If he can be had for scraps, then sure.
But just count me among those who isn't a fan of Smith for this team in general. Worse rebounder than Splitter, bad shooter, high usage, questionable b-ball iq, big ego.
The comparisons to Richard Jefferson aren't far off.
Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard In trying to move J Smith, ATL called LAC and asked about Bledsoe. Short conversation. Clips not really interested in trading for Smith.
You have to at least make the call. Clippers probably can't afford J. Smith. Has anyone heard about 76ers reaction to the offer of J. Smith for Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes. I think that is pretty good value for the 76ers. Of course, they are probably extra cautious about trades after the Bynum fiasco.
Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard U never say never but source close to situation says Josh Smith to Phx 4 Gortat-headlined package is unlikely
that's a good offer. 76ers with bynum, smith, and holiday? hawks get somebody they can keep in turner, and hawes puts up decent efficiency number i think. at least he did to finish last year. i was thinking of drafting him in fantasy league.
If Danny Ferry did trade Smith to the Spurs for a package that didn't include the big three or Leonard or Splitter, then wouldn't that be akin to Jerry West and the Paul Gasol trade? I know Jerry had left the Grizzlies on the day that trade came through, but we all believe he was doing the Lakers a favor. If that is the case, we need to reach out to Demps and get him to trade us Gordon in the offseason.
Kinda hoping for it from beginning. I cant see why Danny Ferry couldnt do Spurs a favor, and choose Spurs` weak offer over any other.
Hawks have zero bad contracts, that is the main issue. You have to give them an asset, because expiring contracts mean absolutely nothing to them, especially considering theyre gonna be in the playoffs this year and Josh Smith will help there. For the Spurs, at a bare minimum that means Danny Green. Give Danny Ferry a pick of any of our backup PG. Maybe he likes a random piece on our team like Dejuan.
If so, a viable trade the Hawks would accept would be: SJax/Danny Green/Dejuan/Patty+1st round pick for Josh Smith+DeShawn Stevenson. Imagine a defensive lineup of TP/Stevenson/Kawhi/JSmoove/Duncan. Would be devastating.
I read that Philly doesn't want to give up Turner, and I don't blame them, unless Smith guarantees he will sign long term there. But wouldn't be surprised if they got ancy by the deadline and did it anyway.
And you mean you don't think this guy seems like the type of stand up guy to build a team around?Of course, they are probably extra cautious about trades after the Bynum fiasco.
Wanna point out though, if you make that trade, you almost have to do a seperate trade involving Tiago, because Spurs would basically be saying goodbye before free agency even starts.
Smith would be a 3 month rental. We couldn't afford re-signing him. We will be re-signing Tiago this offseason regardless. But I'm about 95% Smith's not coming here anyways so the point is moot.
No question I wouldn't build a team around a guy with that hair cut. Bad hair cut aside, the 76ers gave up one of their best players, bloated contract notwithstanding, for a guy with a big contract that sits on the injured reserve and has knees so bad he may never play again. Can you imagine if they traded even more of their assets for a guy that eventually leaves them in the offseason? I just don't know if they have the guts to make that move.I read that Philly doesn't want to give up Turner, and I don't blame them, unless Smith guarantees he will sign long term there. But wouldn't be surprised if they got ancy by the deadline and did it anyway.
And you mean you don't think this guy seems like the type of stand up guy to build a team around?
Spurs aren't trading pieces like Jax/DGreen/Tiago/draft picks for 3 month rentals such as JSmoove. If he comes here, Spurs are committing themselves to him for the long haul. The Spurs have to spend money this summer anyways, with Jax/Bonner/Ginobili (28m) all coming off the books.
I dont know how many I have loaded the Spurs forum too see a trade!! KMON!! GIVE ME SOMETHING!!
Utah gets SJax and CoJo
Spurs get Milsaps and Bell
There ya go..
Ric Bucher @RicBucher
Not sure if the Spurs make a deal before Thursday, but a source says it won't be for Josh Smith or Al Jefferson.
The Jefferson rumor never had substance to it because it would've put San Antonio into a difficult salary-cap position. The Smith interest apparently died upon discovering that Josh simply didn't have the requisite Spurs' DNA. Former NBA coach Sam Mitc told me today that playing for the Spurs would be a great benefit to Smith and I agree; he's never struck me as a malcontent or bad guy or purposely undisciplined. He might not have Spurs' DNA now, but I believe he wouldn't reject a transfusion and it would make the most of the raw talent he clearly has.
It's settled then.
/thread
Last edited by BatManu20; 02-19-2013 at 08:42 PM.
I don't think the Hawks should move Smith for Expirings and a pick. I think Ferry wants to combine Dwight and Smith up front, trade Horford for a good wing in the offseason and then add role players with their own/rockets picks. Don't see the point in them trading him, as winning games this year and making the playoffs(Even if only for 1 round and 2/3 home games) is worth as much as a #30 pick.
Jack and a 1st + Neal/Blair is easily worth it from a 3 month rental from our POV, but it doesn't save money for the Hawks.
I thought for sure it would put us in the NBA Finals.
"Former NBA coach Sam Mitc told me today that playing for the Spurs would be a great benefit to Smith and I agree; he's never struck me as a malcontent or bad guy or purposely undisciplined. He might not have Spurs' DNA now, but I believe he wouldn't reject a transfusion and it would make the most of the raw talent he clearly has."
I agree with Sam Mitc and Ric Bucher. If he can be had for a deal that favors us and doesn't require us to give up any major pieces (which seems possible considering the lack of good offers the Hawks have apparently received), and the only reason we're not pursuing him is because we don't think he has "Spurs DNA," I think that's a big mistake. I hope that's not the case, cause I could see that coming back to haunt us in the playoffs.
Just found this little snippet
"who wouldn't want al or josh?! Your one of those keep splitter instead of josh s that thinks josh would destroy out chemistry or think that tiago will win us a ring ? I sure hope not. I'm a spurs fan but I swear some spurs fans are blind and stupid"
Posted in General thread, but this can die now: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...h-Al-Jefferson
The San Antonio Spurs have been linked to trade discussions for Josh Smith and Al Jefferson, but a source the team won't pursue a move for either player.
The Spurs would have struggled to afford either player given their salary cap situation.
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo Said an NBA executive on trade talk: "It's actually quiet. Everyone is waiting for Josh Smith to be moved first."
Five NBA Trades That Should Be Made
1. Atlanta PF Josh Smith to San Antonio for PF/C DeJuan Blair, SF Stephen Jackson and a first-round pick.
"Smith is headed somewhere, that much is fairly certain. Yes, he can be difficult, playing the role of the occasional knucklehead who is somewhat of a risk when the idea is team chemistry.
Talent-wise, however, there are no doubts. When focused, the guy is a borderline All-Star. When not, Smith is still pretty doggone good.
Lots of folks doubt the Spurs, who exited the All-Star break with the league’s best record, can maintain their current pace. Lots of folks feel that way for good reason. After all, the Spurs have crumpled in the playoffs every season since their last le in 2007.
Well, guess what? Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and even Tony Parker ain’t getting any younger. Smith would give the Spurs a talented pair of fresh legs, additional frontcourt scoring and rebounding, a big man who could both relieve and play alongside Duncan.
And with cool, calm and collected vets such Duncan, Parker and Ginobili, and a hard-edged coach in Gregg Popovich, the Spurs would be able to keep Smith in check.
Meanwhile, the Hawks would receive two expiring contracts and a coveted first-rounder. That last part would be the key to the deal, because Blair would merely be getting a two-month tryout and Jackson is just about done." - Sam Amico
http://www.foxsportsohio.com/02/20/13/Five-NBA-trades-that-should-be-made/msn_landing.html?blockID=866845&feedID=3561
I concur, even though it won't happen. It's too bad the FO doesn't think he has "Spurs DNA."
Even after the Bucher report, I won't fully rule out a trade for Smith.
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