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    The internet, book stores, full of what it takes to learn about Islam. Yes a religion of violence towards non believers. Only a fool wouldn't get it.

    A bomb goes off anywhere in the world nobody is thinking.....those damn Christians again.....now are they?

    Killing over cartoons pretty much says it all.
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    The internet, book stories, full of what it takes to learn about Islam. Yes a religion of violence towards non believers. Only a fool wouldn't get it.

    A bomb goes off anywhere in the world nobody is thinking.....those damn Christians again.....now are they?

    Killing over cartoons pretty much says it all.
    if it's at an abortion clinic, that's my first thought: crazy christians

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    BOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....1000 people killed and maimed. We don't know who did it....yet! So tell me who will we all be thinking did it? Where does law enforcement first start looking?

    You see a collie across the street eyeing you, yep...concern. You see a pit bull across the street eyeing you, yep...fear. That is Islam.

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    Yes a religion of violence towards non believers. Only a fool wouldn't get it.
    That's Christianity too, fool.

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    You see Avante posting....yep, .

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    Where did the compressed ball of everything come from?

    Also, do atheists acknowledge the big bang?
    As Blake said, its likely it has always existed. Which seems at least as fair an answer to me as "God has always existed".

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    It's turtles all the way down

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    As Blake said, its likely it has always existed. Which seems at least as fair an answer to me as "God has always existed".
    If both are fair answers, then the existence of God is as rational is the nonexistence of God.

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    If both are fair answers, then the existence of God is as rational is the nonexistence of God.
    If the existence or nonexistence of God only rested on that fact, sure. Except those who claim that God exists tend to apply some other features to him, like that he created the universe, or various other characteristics/actions. If you are saying "Some form of being exists that can't/hasn't interacted with us"... Sure, I can't disprove it. No one could.

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    If both are fair answers, then the existence of God is as rational is the nonexistence of God.
    No, it's not for all reasons that are spaghetti based.

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    Strange that you would "lol....smh" at something you agree with
    What?

    This thread has veered off so far from OP as due most of the threads like this. DoK has yet to answer my question and neither have you, and nothing else has to be said. We then come to a red herring discussion about rape. Have at it, ankle biters.

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    What?

    This thread has veered off so far from OP as due most of the threads like this. DoK has yet to answer my question and neither have you, and nothing else has to be said. We then come to a red herring discussion about rape. Have at it, ankle biters.
    "what?" is the first question you've asked in this thread, jackass.

    And you have yet to answer my direct question to you.

    don't let the door hit you etc..

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    So many here really do need to actually bone up just a little on what Islam is, it's very obvious that never happened.

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    It's possible that this matter has always existed, always in motion
    i'm not sure i would refer to it as 'matter'. the current theories on the origins of light matter along with the corresponding observations of their presence stongly implies a beginning of matter and certainly space, if not time as well. if the latter is correct then there was never a 'before'.


    also possible that there has been lots of big bangs
    that is certainly the reaction to the problem of the popular model of a steady state universe. that is, perhaps there is some sort of undefined quantum effect that creates an infinite number of expansions and contractions of the universe. this model, however, has to consider the question of whether or not this is an open or closed universe and entropy density considerations.

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    ^^ a good analogy would be this thread. is it a phoenix of another thread ? is it open or closed ? is there bottom up or top down causation for this threads inflation ?

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    So many here really do need to actually bone up just a little on what Islam is, it's very obvious that never happened.
    i have to agree with blake's assertion regarding christianity's current state (and it's own culpability when it comes to bloodshed). when one takes into consideration how christianity has evolved, by means of theodicy, into a moral catapult for 'justified' war (st augustine's just war theory for instance) it certainly can be regarded as a catalyst for violence (perhaps not for such superfluous reasons but arguably on a larger scale). nietzcshe may have been right when he asserted that there has not been a legitimate christian since christ himself or that christianity (in its most prominent forms) is responsible for the death of god.

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    ^^ a good analogy would be this thread. is it a phoenix of another thread ? is it open or closed ? is there bottom up or top down causation for this threads inflation ?

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    So many here really do need to actually bone up just a little on what Islam is, it's very obvious that never happened.
    The Qu'Ran is violent, just like the Bible.

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    If both are fair answers, then the existence of God is as rational is the nonexistence of God.
    The existence of a God isn't supported by any evidence, so it's not a rational answer.

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    The Qu'Ran is violent, just like the Bible.
    Pretty obvious you haven't read either. Two totally different levels of violence there.

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    i have to agree with blake's assertion regarding christianity's current state (and it's own culpability when it comes to bloodshed). when one takes into consideration how christianity has evolved, by means of theodicy, into a moral catapult for 'justified' war (st augustine's just war theory for instance) it certainly can be regarded as a catalyst for violence (perhaps not for such superfluous reasons but arguably on a larger scale). nietzcshe may have been right when he asserted that there has not been a legitimate christian since christ himself or that christianity (in its most prominent forms) is responsible for the death of god.
    What does Christianity have to do with anything?

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    Pretty obvious you haven't read either. Two totally different levels of violence there.
    Explain. The Bible tells its followers to kill non-believers and sexuals, too. God also commits genocide, wipes out entire cities, sends bears to maul children to death, etc. in the Bible.

    What's an acceptable level of violence for you?

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    Explain. The Bible tells its followers to kill non-believers and sexuals, too. God also commits genocide, wipes out entire cities, sends bears to maul children to death, etc. in the Bible.

    What's an acceptable level of violence for you?
    It's the overwleming amount of kill kill kill chop, burn kill kill..we find in the Koran. Tons of it, tons! Chop off hands and feet from opposite sides...huh?

    What does any talk of the realities of Islam and the violence we all know is the core of that religion have to do with Christianity? You really don't see a difference?

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    It's the overwleming amount of kill kill kill chop, burn kill kill..we find in the Koran. Tons of it, tons! Chop off hands and feet from opposite sides...huh?

    What does any talk of the realities of Islam and the violence we all know is the core of that religion have to do with Christianity? You really don't see a difference?
    The Bible has an overwhelming amount of murder in it, too. Genocides. Entire cities being destroyed.

    I don't necessarily disagree with you about violence in Islam. However, I don't agree with how you came to your conclusion. The Bible is not less violent than the Qu'Ran. Period. God loves to murder and wants others to murder. It's right there in the text. The fact that Christians don't follow those teachings is because they either don't know about it or know about it and try to rationalize it.

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    Where does God want others to murder non believers. Educate me.

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