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    to the kids lurking, this is how you handle situations when approached by strangers:

    watchmen/pedo/murderer: hi, i'm with the neighborhood watch. i don't recognize you. do you live here?

    kid: sorry, sir. i'm not supposed to talk to strangers. *walks away in opposite direction*

    watchmen/pedo/murderer: hey kid! i'm serious, i'm a watchmen and i need to verify you live here. what is your address?

    kid: may i see a bad, or an ID that proves you're a watchmen?

    watchmen: errr uhhh...i don't have one.

    kid: well i cannot give you that information. you're more than welcome to contact 911. *walks away in opposite direction so they can't follow you home*
    That would have been a successful strategy for Trayvon to pursue as well. There are a mul ude of ways to keep from getting shot. Attacking the guy and trying to beat his ass wasn't one of them.

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    talking =/= sucker punching and sitting on Z's chest banging his head into the concrete.
    we know you, being a less gun fellator with manhood problems, just would have shot GZ.

    But Martin didn't have a gun, so couldn't really be sure when he had fully Stood His Own ing Ground and reduced the threat he perceived. It was Martin's call, not yours.

    Obviously, Martin would be alive if he had knocked GZ the out, or killed him.

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    we know you, being a less gun fellator with manhood problems, just would have shot GZ.

    But Martin didn't have a gun, so couldn't really be sure when he had fully Stood His Own ing Ground and reduced the threat he perceived. It was Martin's call, not yours.

    Obviously, Martin would be alive if he had knocked GZ the out, or killed him.
    Wow. I never realized Boo was such a macho badass.

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    That would have been a successful strategy for Trayvon to pursue as well. There are a mul ude of ways to keep from getting shot. Attacking the guy and trying to beat his ass wasn't one of them.
    yea he did. tray tried running away from zimmerman and then zimmerman followed him and cornered him.

    NOTE TO CHILDREN LURKING: if the scenario doesn't work and the stranger is persistant, you use the "fight or flight" method. meaning if you're in a position to run, you run. if you have nowhere to run, then you fight for your life. better to try to fight off the stranger than let them rape, murder or kidnap you.

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    yea he did. tray tried running away from zimmerman and then zimmerman followed him and cornered him.

    NOTE TO CHILDREN LURKING: if the scenario doesn't work and the stranger is persistant, you use the "fight or flight" method. meaning if you're in a position to run, you run. if you have nowhere to run, then you fight for your life. better to try to fight off the stranger than let them rape, murder or kidnap you.
    @ Trill rewriting history.

    @ a fat middle aged mexican "cornering" a fit young black male in an open area with no corners or dead end alleys.

    You crack me up, Trill.

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    Z's lawyer just got objected to about 5 times for the same thing.

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    @ Trill rewriting history.

    @ a fat middle aged mexican "cornering" a fit young black male in an open area with no corners or dead end alleys.

    You crack me up, Trill.

    he is not mexican, he is white-hispanic. white father and peruvian mother.

    remember, trayvon was a pot head and he was not "fit". zimmerman trained in mma and wanted to be a police officer. he was in tip top shape before his league of sympathizers donated damn near a million dollars so he could eat the finest cuisine and get a new leather couch to sleep on.

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    Z lawyer Omara saying that T's dad cursed at one of Z's family on the way out of the court room last week and wants him banned. Judge doesn't look like she'll do it.

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    They sent the jury out and the family member is going to the stand... crazy

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    2:36 p.m. ET: O'Mara says it seems fair to have Zimmerman's parents in court if Martin's parents can be in court.
    Judge Nelson and O'Mara keep cutting each other off because they disagree. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
    — Jackie Damico (@InSessionJackie) June 24, 2013
    2:33 p.m. ET: The judges says Benjamin Crump, the Martin family's attorney, should not be in the courtroom because he's a witness.
    2:31 p.m. ET: Defense attorney Mark O'Mara argues that Zimmerman's parents should be permitted to sit in the courtroom during trial testimony, despite the fact that they're on the witness list.
    2:29 p.m. ET: The judge has dismissed the jurors so she can take up a matter with attorneys outside of their presence.
    2:28 p.m. ET: West disputes that Martin was unarmed.
    "Travyon Martin armed himself with the concrete sidewalk and used it to smash George Zimmerman’s head. No different than if he picked up a brick or smashed his head against a wall. That is a deadly weapon," said West. He asked jurors to keep an open mind as he concluded his opening statement.
    2:22 p.m. ET: Zimmerman had a gun but many people didn't know about it, according to West.
    "He didn’t brag about it, didn’t tell people, didn’t show it," said West.
    West says Zimmerman got his permit in 2009 and there's no evidence he was trigger happy.
    2:21 p.m. ET: West says Zimmerman has gained a lot of weight since the incident. At the time, Zimmerman was fitter and had been working out, according to West.
    2:18 p.m. ET: West says Martin was a former linebacker and "knew how to give a hit and take a hit." He also says Martin "knew how to mount someone so as to incapacitate him."
    2:16 p.m. ET: The prosecution objects and the judge sustains, telling West to refrain from commenting on evidence. She tells him opening statements are just for attorneys to tell jurors what they think the evidence will show.
    2:14 p.m. ET: Zimmerman's neighbor said it was Zimmerman screaming on the 911 call, according to West.
    2:12 p.m. ET: West says Martin's dad then said it was his son screaming on the 911 call and that Martin's mom agreed.
    2:10 p.m. ET: Martin's dad lowered his head and said it wasn't his son screaming when detectives first asked him, says West.
    "And then, of course, more stuff started to happen in town," said West. He talks about the community reaction starting to build and a lawsuit that was filed to release the 911 call.
    "There was great, great public pressure on the city to release these recordings," said West.
    2:06 p.m. ET: Zimmerman's uncle knew "immediately, without question in his mind" that it was Zimmerman, says West. Other friends and family agree. But he says that other witnesses will say it was Martin's voice, like his mom. "She certainly wants it to be his voice," said West.
    2:04 p.m. ET: Scientifically, you can't figure out someone's age when they're screaming, says West. You're left with people who know the voices to determine who it is.
    2:02 p.m. ET: West is discussing the 911 call, saying that common sense tells you that the person crying for "help" is the one on the bottom.
    "Can science telling us who is yelling for help? And the short answer is, 'No,'" said West. "It’s either a waste of time or the results are unreliable."
    1:58 p.m. ET:
    First witness in #ZimmermanTrial should be Chad Joseph, the person #TrayvonMartin bought the Skittles for...
    — Vinnie Politan (@VinniePolitan) June 24, 2013
    1:55 p.m. ET: West shows jurors a photo of Martin's pants and tells them to pay close attention to the stains on the knees. He says this shows that Martin was on his knees, straddling Zimmerman.
    1:52 p.m. ET: West says Martin's clothing wasn't packaged properly -- it was wet and put in a plastic bag instead of a paper bag so that it could dry out. He also says the gun shot proves they were less than an arm's length away.
    "They were face-to-face, basically on top of each other," said West.
    1:48 pm. ET: If Martin grabbed his chest after being shot, then he should have had his own blood on his hands, says West. He again points out that Martin's hands weren't bagged on the scene.
    1:46 p.m. ET: West says Martin's hands were never bagged at the scene and the medical examiner never photographed his palms, which could explain why they never found Zimmerman's blood on him.
    1:44 p.m. ET: West shows jurors how Zimmerman pulled out the gun and shot Martin.
    1:40 p.m. ET: Martin was leaning over Zimmerman, punching him, according to West. This, he says, explains the forensic evidence. The soft drink in the pouch of Martin's hoodie was also causing the hoodie to pull away from Martin's body, says West.
    1:39 p.m. ET: West says the hole in Martin’s sweatshirt was a contact shot because the fabric was shredded. He says the hole in Martin’s undershirt was also somewhat shredded. He says the wound in Martin's skin was very round and had a 2x2 area of stippling.
    "The clothing Travyon Martin was wearing was separate from his skin by at least a certain amount," said West.
    1:35 p.m. ET: West starts back up by apologizing to jurors for the knock knock joke he told earlier.
    "No more bad jokes, I promise that. I was convinced it was the delivery," he said.
    1:31 p.m. ET: The judge is back on the bench and the jury is being seated

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    he is not mexican, he is white-hispanic. white father and peruvian mother.

    remember, trayvon was a pot head and he was not "fit". zimmerman trained in mma and wanted to be a police officer. he was in tip top shape before his league of sympathizers donated damn near a million dollars so he could eat the finest cuisine and get a new leather couch to sleep on.
    So is Obama white/Kenyan?

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    State is shredding this guy.. its a Z friend

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    Dude just said "I don't want to be up here" that was sad and hilarious.

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    So is Obama white/Kenyan?

    kenya isn't a ethnicity. he is mulatto.

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    kenya isn't a ethnicity. he is mulatto.
    So Peruvian is an ethnicity?

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    So Peruvian is an ethnicity?
    no peruvian is not an ethinicity, that would be considered hispanic. i said he is white-hispanic. a white father and peruvian mother.

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    I seriously doubt Trayvon consulted Zimmermans Ancestry.com webpage before attacking him. that is your theory, right? That Trayvon thought he was "cornered" in a wide open space and decided his best defense was to Attack Zimmerman first?

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    the defense lawyer opened with a knock-knock joke

    trayvon had no scars on his fists from almost beating zimmerman to death
    Why would he have scars?

    Do you know what you are saying?

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    10:08 a.m. ET: Guy said Martin's injuries do not indicate that he fought with Zimmerman.
    "He didn't have bruised knuckles. He didn't have swollen hands. The only injury to his hand that was capable of being photograph was a small abrasion on his left ring finger. Trayvon Martin was right handed. That was the only injury to his hands." said Guy.
    Yep.

    It takes more than a few minutes of blood pumping for bruises to form.

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    hey man, i'm just relaying what the experts and professionals have discussed so far. however, i do think if someone is brutally beating someone to the point of near death, there would be significant injuries to the perpetrators hands. there wasn't even any dna on tray's finger nails.
    They are being intellectually dishonest to the jury. Seems that means they don't have a case.

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    @ Trill playing the race card. Since when is baby mama exclusively a black term?
    Don't you know?

    Any word a black finds offensive is a racist remark.

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    They are being intellectually dishonest.....
    Vitamin I RDA exceeded.

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    lol @ "a black".

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    and by lol I mean GTFO.

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    Hey! I'm a white!

    My dog's a brown!

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