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I've gotta ask this: Why do you guys always equate a vagina with weakness? Last time I looked, y'all would do anything to get in one!
The dude was straight ballin In the Olympics what 10 months ago and even exactly a year ago was going to work against the Thunder. There's no way your body and shot just the bed in a year, it just seems like his heads in a different place this year
I've gotta ask this: Why do you guys always equate a vagina with weakness? Last time I looked, y'all would do anything to get in one!
Telling quote from Popovich (taken from one of the other Manu bashing threads on the first page):
''He's having a tough playoffs, and hasn't really found a rhythm or found his game yet,'' Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said Friday. ''I think that he's obviously not as confident as usual, and he knows full well he hasn't performed the way he would like and the way he's used to. But it's simplistic to say, 'What are we going to do to get him going?'''
It's never easy watching your favorite horse go the glue factory.
That people would say in 25mpg avgs of 35%fg, 19%3pt, 70%ft, 3APG, 2TO and 7.5pts is ok is hilarious. Then to say that's above average is even funnier. I'm starting to think Argentinians have laced Splitter's water to deflect attention from Manu.
I'm thoroughly enjoying my stage of denial... I'll probably get to the anger stage before Derrick Rose comes back, tbh
http://www.nba.com/spurs/playoffs/130614_erik_spoelstraQ. I wanted to ask you about Manu and just kind of get your assessment on what you've been able to do to slow him down. He struggled a lot in the playoffs, long before you guys were facing him in the playoffs. What are you seeing out of him as a player? Does it still feel like he's the guy that at some point he's going to pop and be the player he has been for so many years?
COACH ERIK SPOELSTRA: I don't know if we're doing anything. In Game 3 he made every trigger pass for them that embarrassed us. And he was in the middle of all those plays that either led to points in the paint or three‑point shooting. Even though the statline may not be what everybody wanted, he had a tremendous impact. And sometimes it's just make or miss, to be quite frank.
You're doing great Manu, keep up the awesome work.
-Erik Spoelstra LOL
Coach Spo recognize game, tbh
Splitter used to have pretty good fakes around the rim, at least during the regular season. What has happened to them? He's just taking the ball straight up without any moves. Too predictable!!
Funny how Manu's interview sparked such a debate. Some quick thoughts:
-I didn't see Manu as being passive aggressive in that interview, but i took it as him not being comfortable answering questions after he had such a bad game. Honestly i thought he was being a . But never thought he was being unsatisfied with his role, rather unwilling to admit he needs to step up MASSIVELY.
-Never once have i questioned Manu's effort in the playoffs, and i don't question hiss effort last night.
-However, going into this series, i thought Manu was going to be sacrificing his body on driving into the paint like a mad man living on borrowed time. Haven't seen that yet.
-We all expected Manu turnovers. What we didn't expect was horrible passes from up top and constant chanked hero ball threes.
Go into the paint Manu. Pass and shoot from there.
He said he's as healthy as he's been all season, and we saw him SKY for the one handed dunk in game 3. He needs to reassess his approach and start sacrificing to get into the paint.
Well, he's getting stripped really easy so he can't even fake, he's scared when he catches the ball because he's afraid of getting stripped and blocked so he makes herky jerky decisions which result in failure and he's not mentally tough to work through it. He keeps looking for foul calls when there are no calls and he doesn't have a post game so he's a one trick pony.
Manu has always been one of my favorite players ever and my 2nd favorite Spur behind Timmy, so it really pains me to say he ing sucks ass and is losing the Finals for us. Make whatever excuse you want but he had 2 points up until it didn't matter anymore and in a pivotal finals game that is inexcusable, you can spin it whatever way you want but Manu has been flat out horrendous and really needs to consider hanging them up. Really saddens me to see someone who you know has so much fire and drive playing like a 50 year old man out there. I love you Manu, but seriously, adjust your game and play within yourself or just call it quits. He's killing the team out there. How many times in this series has he been trapped and tried to throw a pass in midair across the court only to get it deflected or stolen? It's painful to watch
Bull- ing- . Manu has played backup PG plenty and has always been a facilitator, gtfo with that ish
i remember arguing with you in game threads or Manu threads how his play was getting worse, but you kept saying Non Issue or saying his teammates are letting him down. Least you are setting a record for longest Stage of Denial.
Manu is one of my favorite players, and tbh, even though his struggles have proven what I said, i still held out hope that he would peak. Maybe he's got something left in him for 3 measly games (possibly 2). I know you are worried about his back and longterm health, but hopefully he can go strong for what is very likely his last Finals ever. At the very least he needs to play smarter.
Hey look Venti, Jeff reads my posts
It's difficult for Manu because these refs aren't calling a whole lot of contact, esp on the heat end. The are pretty much letting Wade, Chalmers, James and Allen get away with Derek Fisher-esque swipes and arm slaps on just about everyone, but especially Manu & Tiago. This has caused Manu to stop driving into the paint and also has caused Splitter to start rushing every shot. I've counted about 3 times each for Manu & Tiago, Tony a couple of times, and Duncan once. Every one of them resulted in a turnover and usually a fast break the other way for the heat.
IMO any time a player recklessly swipes down hard attempting to knock the ball loose, 60% of the time they will get some wrist if the player is stationary, and 80% of the time if the player is on the move, yet you see players getting away with this cheap lazy tactic constantly in the nba. IMO this should be called a foul unless that ref is 99.9% sure there was no contact on the wrist/arm and can hear the audible thud of hand slapping ball. That they call it a foul perhaps 1 out of 3 times is ludicrous... it's ugly basketball and it's also one of those nebulus areas of the rules that Stern/refs use to their full advantage to prop up the teams they are backing.
Sup, Brazil? WTF is up with our French disappearing after Game 1 especially the second half on Thursday? Can you please tell him to show up for the whole game on Sunday? Ive believed in him this postseason and I hope he doesnt break my heart yet again tbh.disappointing ElNono only 12 pages with a thread le like Manu scapegoat as usual, but ...? I mean I was expecting at least 20 pages.
strangely enough in this thread I do share most of FkLA opinions
Doubting that Manu is giving it all is beyond ridiculous tbh. Saying he had an ok game is also foolish. Not seeing that Spurs will need more from Manu than being a facilitator is also foolish. At home he can play the facilitator role and stick to it, on the road for a game 6 or 7 he will need to score, counting on Green, Neal, Bonner to score the ball especially late in the game would be suicidal.
If Manu continues to play like that, chance to win is 1%, if Manu plays more aggressive we are probably at 10%.
I don't know if there is a disconnect between Manu and Pop about his role but they need to fix that and quick.
If Pop really ASK him to just play PnR, feed the bigs and be a mere facilitator, that's a mistake and Tim, Manu and Tony need to speak up.
I also thought it was interesting in game 4, Parker made a circus drive scoop shot just past the outstretched arm of Le and was given a hip check by Le which sent him crashing to the floor and no foul was called. Later on in the same quarter Wade made almost an identical type driving scoop past Tim Duncan, recieved almost the same type of body contact which caused him to crash to the floor and was promptly awarded his AND-1 like it was an automatic no brainer call. just makes me laugh.
Have you guys also noticed the mysterious 3 second defense techs the spurs have gotten in 2 consecutive games now? When they start breaking those out you know they are getting desperate.
Sup FkLA ? Don't worry my Parke is going to deliver, he feels better. Second half he was obviously banged up
Manu ginobili 7.5 ppg in the finals is the lowest in ANY playoff series in his career
I watched the replay and I don't get all the vitriol being spewed at Manu. He had some good passes to TD and Tiago where they threw up weak shots and got blocked or stripped. He didn't make the Spurs miss all those chip shots in the lane. Or turn the ball over egregiously. Or attempted a ton of stupid shots that had no hope of going in.
I agree that his statline is not gonna cut it, especially with TP being hobbled. Yes, it is disappointing. We need more production from him. He has to find a way to get himself going. But reading all the over-the-top hate here is just amazing. You'd think Manu single-handedly gave this game to the Heat.
Maybe time for Manu to follow Duncan's advise in recent interview. Be a little bit selfish with the ball.
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