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    Very TP-esque situation indeed. Hopefully it makes both parties happy!

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    With Anderson, I can't help thinking that the Spurs are in the drivers' seat here, that they really don't need another PG per se, especially if he pans out as advertized.

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    Mills takes a discount

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    If this allows not only CJ to develop (which every time he's been thrust into an important situation he's done so well) but gets Patty back at a reasonable cost, it's not bad at all.

    I would imagine if Patty is signed quickly that really means no cap space (assuming his deal is for a decent amount more than his cap hold).

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    Very TP-esque situation indeed. Hopefully it makes both parties happy!
    I think a $6M/2 with a PO works the best for both sides. Spurs get Mills for cheap this season while not overpaying in 2015, and Patty gets to see how he comes back before potentially testing the market next year.

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    the more reason manu should be resting
    tp is but should work on 3 point shot more

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    If this allows not only CJ to develop (which every time he's been thrust into an important situation he's done so well) but gets Patty back at a reasonable cost, it's not bad at all.

    I would imagine if Patty is signed quickly that really means no cap space (assuming his deal is for a decent amount more than his cap hold).
    The only real chance for cap space involved letting Boris leave and that was always a very long shot.

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    What are people expecting Mills to make, healthy imo his ceiling was Beli money (2.5M iirc) so it's gonna be less now...

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    I think a $6M/2 with a PO works the best for both sides. Spurs get Mills for cheap this season while not overpaying in 2015, and Patty gets to see how he comes back before potentially testing the market next year.
    I'd do it with a team option...

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    Why is this so hard for some to see?
    Because we have a ton of Chicken Littles here. Given this injury, we're pretty damn fortunate to have 3 PGs who have experience in this system. Not saying that Joseph is the same player, but he can get the job done for half the season.

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    I think a $6M/2 with a PO works the best for both sides. Spurs get Mills for cheap this season while not overpaying in 2015, and Patty gets to see how he comes back before potentially testing the market next year.
    Agreed - obviously not what he was hoping for, but a nice risk-reward scenario for Patty if he recovers. Losing out on 10-14M guaranteed, but potential to make up for that if he recovers.

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    Joseph and De Colo can handle it.

    wait.

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    What are people expecting Mills to make, healthy imo his ceiling was Beli money (2.5M iirc) so it's gonna be less now...
    You're crazy if you think Patty didn't play his way to a bigger contract than 2.5 million a year.

    Prior to the injury, of course.

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    The only real chance for cap space involved letting Boris leave and that was always a very long shot.
    It's still possible along with a couple of other moves, but ya, I agree. Was just outlining some scenarios because of the Pau report.

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    Agreed - obviously not what he was hoping for, but a nice risk-reward scenario for Patty if he recovers. Losing out on 10-14M guaranteed, but potential to make up for that if he recovers.
    And he'd be protected if he doesn't.

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    I'd do it with a team option...
    Me too, but Patty wouldn't. I'd do $10M/2 if that second year were non-guaranteed.

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    some thought pre injury 5 million a year

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    It's still possible along with a couple of other moves, but ya, I agree. Was just outlining some scenarios because of the Pau report.
    I know.

    I think the Spurs expressed interest in Pau for the MLE. It's up to him to decide between chasing more money or more rings.

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    Because Pop doesn't trust him, never has really...
    Yeah, trusted him so little that he started the second half of arguably the most critical game of the postseason.

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    Wish we could get our hands on grievas Vasquez. I wonder what Toronto plans to do if he signs an offer sheet.

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    I know.

    I think the Spurs expressed interest in Pau for the MLE. It's up to him to decide between chasing more money or more rings.
    I would be shocked if the Spurs really thought Pau would take the MLE. But I guess it never hurts to put that out there.

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    I can't believe Vasquez is an RFA. Feels like the dudes been in the league forever. I think Toronto is his fourth team.

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    I would be shocked if the Spurs really thought Pau would take the MLE. But I guess it never hurts to put that out there.
    You never know, desperation is a stinky cologne

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    I would be shocked if the Spurs really thought Pau would take the MLE. But I guess it never hurts to put that out there.
    I'm not saying that they had any real expectation that he would take it. Just that when we see reports that the Spurs "expressed interest" in a player we have to take it with a grain a salt.

    In the Pau example, Stein is clearly getting his info from Pau's agent, not the Spurs. So Pau's agent calls the Spurs to gauge their interest. The Spurs tell him that they really like Pau, but they only have the MLE to offer.

    Pau's agent talks to Stein and includes the Spurs in a list of teams that have "expressed interest" in his client.

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    I know. This one came from Woj though, so I gave it a little more credibility.

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