Report: Spurs set to bring over Livio Jean-Charles

[BillMc]

I'm looking forward to this next season greatly. If any of the young people being added can make a contribution it will be fun to watch. We don't have much depth at the 5, but LJC and Bertans give us some bench support behind LMA and Kawhi- albeit third string. Same with Murray. That's what we have Austin for. I still think our starting line-up- if Tony and Green can make some shots - is pretty formidable. Anyway all the 'sky is falling' talk is ridiculous.

Agreed. Spurs fans seemed to think "contending" means "heavily, heavily favored to win the le." As long as you have a realistic chance then you're a contender, which the Spurs as one of the top 3 or 4 teams most definitely are.

I'm biased because of my Latvian connections, but I really think that Bertans is going to good for us. Also, I'm not sure really how Golden State can stop a Pau /LMA front line if Pop has the nerve to stay big.

Should be an interesting year.

[T Park]

pretentious fat still can't talk ball for after all these years

tough guy hiding behind a fake name talks and i yawn as always.

Keep being Mr keyboard gangsta chico

[Joseph Kony]

tough guy hiding behind a fake name talks and i yawn as always.

Keep being Mr keyboard gangsta chico

T Park is your real name?

probably yawning from your cholesterol filled veins not circulating enough blood tbh..

[Spur-Addict]

T Park is your real name?

probably yawning from your cholesterol filled veins not circulating enough blood tbh..

[TrainOfThought5]

Agreed. Spurs fans seemed to think "contending" means "heavily, heavily favored to win the le." As long as you have a realistic chance then you're a contender, which the Spurs as one of the top 3 or 4 teams most definitely are.

I'm biased because of my Latvian connections, but I really think that Bertans is going to good for us. Also, I'm not sure really how Golden State can stop a Pau /LMA front line if Pop has the nerve to stay big.

Should be an interesting year.

Im guilty.

[spurs10]

Agreed. Spurs fans seemed to think "contending" means "heavily, heavily favored to win the le." As long as you have a realistic chance then you're a contender, which the Spurs as one of the top 3 or 4 teams most definitely are.

I'm biased because of my Latvian connections, but I really think that Bertans is going to good for us. Also, I'm not sure really how Golden State can stop a Pau /LMA front line if Pop has the nerve to stay big.

Should be an interesting year.

It will be indeed! With no Latvian bias Bertans is the one I'm most looking forward to! The kid can shoot- just what we need. I also concur we need to take advantage of our potentially formidable frontline of LMA and Pau. Good on the FO bringing Gasol in to replace the GOAT!

[Dingle Barry]

T Park is your real name?

probably yawning from your cholesterol filled veins not circulating enough blood tbh..

Joseph Kony with no regard for bese human life

[timtonymanu]

T Park is your real name?

probably yawning from your cholesterol filled veins not circulating enough blood tbh..

watch this fat go into hiding, then come back two weeks later saying this forum sucks

[T Park]

T Park is your real name?



probably yawning from your cholesterol filled veins not circulating enough blood tbh..

Yawning from you boring me. Patch up the holds in the basement kiddo. They make Leake on your head.

[Chinook]

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/sa...s-team-salary/

Looks like LJC got the full 120 of the rookie scale. So either he won the blinking contest with the Spurs, or there was another reason for the hold up.


Or that BB Insiders is just assuming the 120 and it's really less than that.

[BillMc]

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/sa...s-team-salary/

Looks like LJC got the full 120 of the rookie scale. So either he won the blinking contest with the Spurs, or there was another reason for the hold up.


Or that BB Insiders is just assuming the 120 and it's really less than that.

What leverage would he have to get the 120? Or is the FO just being kind?

[ceperez]

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/sa...s-team-salary/

Looks like LJC got the full 120 of the rookie scale. So either he won the blinking contest with the Spurs, or there was another reason for the hold up.


Or that BB Insiders is just assuming the 120 and it's really less than that.

Spurs must see something that a majority of this forum does not see.

Anyway, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here. Besides, he's shown glimpses of elite athleticism. In fact, he could be the most athletic player in the roster.

[Chinook]

What leverage would he have to get the 120? Or is the FO just being kind?

As I have mentioned to others, literally 99 percent of all rookies get the full 120 percent. The Spurs not giving it to him would be seen as shameful.

[ceperez]

As I have mentioned to others, literally 99 percent of all rookies get the full 120 percent. The Spurs not giving it to him would be seen as shameful.

Were the Spurs obligated to pick up his salary?

[BillMc]

As I have mentioned to others, literally 99 percent of all rookies get the full 120 percent. The Spurs not giving it to him would be seen as shameful.

Thanks. That what I thought (and what I thought you'd said) but saying it was a blinking contest made me think there was an issue and the FO didn't want to give him the 120.

[Chinook]

Thanks. That what I thought (and what I thought you'd said) but saying it was a blinking contest made me think there was an issue and the FO didn't want to give him the 120.

The Spurs avoid the 120 percent more than most teams do. But they haven't done so in a half-dozen years. They used to be up against the tax every year and had to save every cent they could, but now they're nowhere near the line, so it would be a lot less convincing for them to claim financial reasons to do so. However, it's also possible that they wanted LJC to agree to make much of the extra cash into incentives, more to make sure he stayed focused than to recoup money. But obviously, he would refuse knowing the Spurs had no recourse at that point.

[BillMc]

The Spurs avoid the 120 percent more than most teams do. But they haven't done so in a half-dozen years. They used to be up against the tax every year and had to save every cent they could, but now they're nowhere near the line, so it would be a lot less convincing for them to claim financial reasons to do so. However, it's also possible that they wanted LJC to agree to make much of the extra cash into incentives, more to make sure he stayed focused than to recoup money. But obviously, he would refuse knowing the Spurs had no recourse at that point.

[BackHome]

After watching summer league I think Landry Nnoko gives us more then what Livio can give which is only rebounding, blocking shots, and setting picks and roll to hoop for dunk. He is 6"10 is as athletic if not more then Livio and seems to have more of aggressive mind set then Livio.

[Chinook]

Yeah, but you also hate Green even after all these years, so...

[spurs10]

Anyone that's seen him play much with any insight? What I've seen from Bertans is very encouraging. LJC looks good on paper for a need we have. Mainly reading vague stuff about him and his deal. Will check out Think Tank meanwhile.

[Chinook]

Anyone that's seen him play much with any insight? What I've seen from Bertans is very encouraging. LJC looks good on paper for a need we have. Mainly reading vague stuff about him and his deal. Will check out Think Tank meanwhile.

Since we don't have much of a French presence on this site nowadays, the closest you're going to come to someone knowledgeable about LJC's ASVEL play is probably objective , who isn't a big fan, from what I gather.

[SAGirl]

It's not where he's been at but where he's going. I think he needs to go the CoJo route, if you consider Bertans the Mills' version of the forward spot, LJC needs to be CoJo. A hustle guy who makes a difference defensively, even if he's not scoring. Although having a jumpshot is a necessity considering his size (Spurs did emphasize to CoJo he needed to have a jumpshot too after all, he wasn't going to survive on drives to the basket alone), if he can do other things well, like passing or making a dive to the hoop and energetic plays, he can be a very useful roleplayer.

Right now he's not where he needs to be, but to entrust his development to ASVEL was not the wisest after a certain point. He more or less stalled where he was at and the level of compe ion will get a lot more difficult, so after a certain point he wasn't going to continue to get better in France. Competing in training camp and getting good coaching will help and a lot of dleague as well. Hopefully he improves, the hustle he could technically provide at his size is very useful.

[Ocotillo]

Who works with the big men now for development? I know we lost Forcier (and was not even sure if he worked with the big fellas or not). Livio needs to spend a lot of time in Austin I suspect just so he can get developed or see if he can progress.

[SAGirl]

Here is me lighting candles in the shrine for Livio to get better!!

[spurs10]

Since we don't have much of a French presence on this site nowadays, the closest you're going to come to someone knowledgeable about LJC's ASVEL play is probably objective , who isn't a big fan, from what I gather.

Thanks! Hopefully he will do better under the Spurs guidance.

It's not where he's been at but where he's going. I think he needs to go the CoJo route, if you consider Bertans the Mills' version of the forward spot, LJC needs to be CoJo. A hustle guy who makes a difference defensively, even if he's not scoring. Although having a jumpshot is a necessity considering his size (Spurs did emphasize to CoJo he needed to have a jumpshot too after all, he wasn't going to survive on drives to the basket alone), if he can do other things well, like passing or making a dive to the hoop and energetic plays, he can be a very useful roleplayer.

Right now he's not where he needs to be, but to entrust his development to ASVEL was not the wisest after a certain point. He more or less stalled where he was at and the level of compe ion will get a lot more difficult, so after a certain point he wasn't going to continue to get better in France. Competing in training camp and getting good coaching will help and a lot of dleague as well. Hopefully he improves, the hustle he could technically provide at his size is very useful.

Yes I always choose to be optimistic about these young prospects.