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    Not even in the same league as the 1970s-1990s


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    Trash counties have a higher homicide rate and covid death rate than Biden counties.

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    Don't be fooled —

    DeSantis' own state has worse crime than the 'woke' cities he attacks


    But actually, "The murder rate in San Francisco is significantly lower than that of the entire state of Florida — an incredible statistic, given that crime is usually more concentrated in cities.

    The murder rate in Los Angeles is significantly lower than major Florida cities like Miami and Tallahassee.

    And Jacksonville has consistently had the highest murder rate in the state, despite a series of Republican mayors and lead prosecutors."


    things are unlikely to improve under DeSantis' leadership,

    as he has set up a policy of importing police officers from areas with "anti-cop" policies — and

    many of the police who have taken up the offer have
    criminal charges themselves.

    https://www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-2661042692/

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    Maybe Republicans are just pussies.


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    Great crime data explainer here:

    https://theappeal.org/fbi-crime-data...mbnail=twitter

    The 2022 FBI crime stats:

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-relea...ion-statistics






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    Winester; a runnin' just as fast as he can.

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    det election year narrative, tho


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    det election year narrative, tho

    ...we figured if Russia gets away with it, no reason whatsoever the U.S. can't. We got nothin' on Russia, sweetheart.

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    "so long as the right people are getting shot and thrown in prison, fine"

    Texans love their gun violence, it's wish fulfillment.

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    "so long as the right people are getting shot and thrown in prison, fine"

    Texans love their gun violence, it's wish fulfillment.
    You ain't turnin' Texas, fart-facePERIOD

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    det election year narrative, tho

    Throwing pearls before magas

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    Throwing pearls before magas

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    I was told - given option of jail or money to bus elsewhere

    Saw an Altuve jersey bum in Oceanside today...

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    By the numbers: An Axios analysis of data from the Major Cities Chiefs Association found an overall 6% decline in violent crime among 69 cities during the first six months of 2024 compared to the same period last year.


    • 54 of the 69 major cities in the report saw drops in violent crime — defined as homicide, rape, robbery and aggravated assault — in the first half of 2024, according to the Axios review.
    • Columbus, Ohio, experienced the largest percentage decline in violent crime in the nation, with a massive 41% drop so far in 2024. Omaha, Nebraska, was second with a 30% decrease.
    • Miami and Washington, D.C., so far, have seen 29% declines in violent crime.
    • Austin, Texas, saw a 28% drop, followed by New Orleans with a 26% decrease. Both cities have been under fire for rising crime rates in recent years.


    The intrigue: The Axios review also found that the number of homicides in the 69 reported cities fell by more than 17% during the first half of 2024 compared to the last period last year.

    • Boston experienced a dramatic 78% drop in homicides.
    • Philadelphia was among others that saw a big fall in homicides, with a 42% decrease in 2024.
    https://www.axios.com/2024/08/12/vio...trump-election

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    https://x.com/DougHenwood/status/1823020038573498546

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    Eyup. Living in red states is not good for your health.

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    Got to love them "stats" that have been so skewed in the last half decade or more but more so recently with the local PD's and FBI not counting such lawlessness like they did before. "Robberies are down..." Well, when you don't include robberies and the like in your stats then sure they're down.

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    Got to love them "stats" that have been so skewed in the last half decade or more but more so recently with the local PD's and FBI not counting such lawlessness like they did before. "Robberies are down..." Well, when you don't include robberies and the like in your stats then sure they're down.
    They stopped doing the national stats because cops were cooking the books pretty famously. Now there are PACs that count the police wire.

    This was quite some time ago of course so with this new baseline an analysis of 4 year time frames makes sense given the nature of presidential politics.

    Of course you go the nihilist route. Joey doesn't care about your stats.

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    Great crime data explainer here:

    https://theappeal.org/fbi-crime-data...mbnail=twitter

    The 2022 FBI crime stats:

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-relea...ion-statistics







    When the FBI originally released the “final” crime data for 2022 in September 2023, it reported that the nation’s violent crime rate fell by 2.1%. This quickly became, and remains, a Democratic Party talking point to counter Donald Trump’s claims of soaring crime.

    But the FBI has quietly revised those numbers, releasing new data that shows violent crime increased in 2022 by 4.5%. The new data includes thousands more murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults.

    The Bureau – which has been at the center of partisan storms – made no mention of these revisions in its September 2024 press release.

    RCI discovered the change through a cryptic reference on the FBI website that states: “The 2022 violent crime rate has been updated for inclusion in CIUS, 2023.” But there is no mention that the numbers increased. One only sees the change by downloading the FBI’s new crime data and comparing it to the file released last year.

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    When the FBI originally released the “final” crime data for 2022 in September 2023, it reported that the nation’s violent crime rate fell by 2.1%. This quickly became, and remains, a Democratic Party talking point to counter Donald Trump’s claims of soaring crime.

    But the FBI has quietly revised those numbers, releasing new data that shows violent crime increased in 2022 by 4.5%. The new data includes thousands more murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults.

    The Bureau – which has been at the center of partisan storms – made no mention of these revisions in its September 2024 press release.

    RCI discovered the change through a cryptic reference on the FBI website that states: “The 2022 violent crime rate has been updated for inclusion in CIUS, 2023.” But there is no mention that the numbers increased. One only sees the change by downloading the FBI’s new crime data and comparing it to the file released last year.
    even this article says violent crime was down in 2023.

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    even this article says violent crime was down in 2023.
    “I have checked the data on total violent crime from 2004 to 2022,” Carl Moody, a professor at the College of William & Mary who specializes in studying crime, told RealClearInvestigations. “There were no revisions from 2004 to 2015, and from 2016 to 2020, there were small changes of less than one percentage point. The huge changes in 2021 and 2022, especially without an explanation, make it difficult to trust the FBI data.”

    "The actual changes in crimes are extensive. The updated data for 2022 report that there were 80,029 more violent crimes than in 2021. There were an additional 1,699 murders, 7,780 rapes, 33,459 robberies, and 37,091 aggravated assaults. The question naturally arises: should the FBI’s 2023 numbers be believed?"

    Of course ChumpDumper believes the 2023 numbers

    "Another problem with FBI crime data is its reliance on reported crimes. Most crimes go unreported, with only about 45% of violent crimes and 30% of property crimes brought to the police’s attention, according to the National Crime Victimization Survey. Since the FBI only tracks reported incidents and this gap is so large, researchers argue that when the media discusses crime rates based on FBI data, they should clarify that it reflects “reported” crime, not give the impression that total crime is changing.

    A half-century ago, the DOJ provided a total crime measure, including both reported and unreported crime. The results of the department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics 2023 National Crime Victimization Survey, released in mid-September, tell a very different story from the FBI data.

    The NCVS interviews 240,000 people each year about their personal experiences.

    Instead of the FBI’s 3.5% drop in the reported violent crime rate in 2023, the NCVS found a 4.1% increase in the reported violent crime rate. Even with the revised FBI numbers, in 2022, the FBI’s 4.5% increase pales in comparison to the NCVS’s 29.1% increase.

    While the FBI claims that serious violent crime has fallen by 5.8% since Biden took office, the NCVS numbers show that total violent crime has risen by 55.4%. Rapes are up by 42%, robbery by 63%, and aggravated assault by 55% during Biden’s term. Since the NCVS started, the largest previous increase over three years was 27% in 2006, so the increase under Biden was slightly more than twice as large.

    The increases shown by the NCVS during the Biden-Harris administration are by far the largest percentage increases over any three years, slightly more than doubling the previous record."

    https://www.realclearinvestigations....s_1065396.html

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    “I have checked the data on total violent crime from 2004 to 2022,” Carl Moody, a professor at the College of William & Mary who specializes in studying crime, told RealClearInvestigations. “There were no revisions from 2004 to 2015, and from 2016 to 2020, there were small changes of less than one percentage point. The huge changes in 2021 and 2022, especially without an explanation, make it difficult to trust the FBI data.”

    "The actual changes in crimes are extensive. The updated data for 2022 report that there were 80,029 more violent crimes than in 2021. There were an additional 1,699 murders, 7,780 rapes, 33,459 robberies, and 37,091 aggravated assaults. The question naturally arises: should the FBI’s 2023 numbers be believed?"

    Of course ChumpDumper believes the 2023 numbers

    "Another problem with FBI crime data is its reliance on reported crimes. Most crimes go unreported, with only about 45% of violent crimes and 30% of property crimes brought to the police’s attention, according to the National Crime Victimization Survey. Since the FBI only tracks reported incidents and this gap is so large, researchers argue that when the media discusses crime rates based on FBI data, they should clarify that it reflects “reported” crime, not give the impression that total crime is changing.

    A half-century ago, the DOJ provided a total crime measure, including both reported and unreported crime. The results of the department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics 2023 National Crime Victimization Survey, released in mid-September, tell a very different story from the FBI data.

    The NCVS interviews 240,000 people each year about their personal experiences.

    Instead of the FBI’s 3.5% drop in the reported violent crime rate in 2023, the NCVS found a 4.1% increase in the reported violent crime rate. Even with the revised FBI numbers, in 2022, the FBI’s 4.5% increase pales in comparison to the NCVS’s 29.1% increase.

    While the FBI claims that serious violent crime has fallen by 5.8% since Biden took office, the NCVS numbers show that total violent crime has risen by 55.4%. Rapes are up by 42%, robbery by 63%, and aggravated assault by 55% during Biden’s term. Since the NCVS started, the largest previous increase over three years was 27% in 2006, so the increase under Biden was slightly more than twice as large.

    The increases shown by the NCVS during the Biden-Harris administration are by far the largest percentage increases over any three years, slightly more than doubling the previous record."

    https://www.realclearinvestigations....s_1065396.html
    So what's your conspiracy theory here?

    Please just answer since you're pimping this in two threads.

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    even this article says violent crime was down in 2023.
    FBI better hire Ms. Cleo so they can claim that all crime (reported and not reported crime) was captured.

    "Another problem with FBI crime data is its reliance on reported crimes. Most crimes go unreported, with only about 45% of violent crimes and 30% of property crimes brought to the police’s attention, according to the National Crime Victimization Survey. Since the FBI only tracks reported incidents and this gap is so large, researchers argue that when the media discusses crime rates based on FBI data, they should clarify that it reflects “reported” crime, not give the impression that total crime is changing."

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