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Vucevic is disgustingly bad at defense. Don’t think you can turn him into a net positive player simply due to those deficiencies. He’s no where near good enough on offense to overcome those deficiencies.
I pray not. He provides zero resistance on defense. Would prefer Mo Bamba, even though he’s a bit of a dumb dumb.
Vucevic is disgustingly bad at defense. Don’t think you can turn him into a net positive player simply due to those deficiencies. He’s no where near good enough on offense to overcome those deficiencies.
Naz Reid has some enforcer qualities
I like the idea of Jakob though. The thought of him and Wemby protecting the rim with Sochan roaming all over the court gives me 2003 Spurs vibes with Duncan-Robinson-Bowen.
Spacing on offense becomes somewhat of an issue with Jak-Sochan-Tre.
Brook Lopez might be a decent option. Similar defense to Jakob with a different profile on offense. Floor spacer but not as effective as Jakob as a roller to the basket.
Third option is you time with Collins as your starting C and sign some depth behind him like a Mason Plumlee type.
Naz Reid and Cam Johnson would be a nice summer, tbh
He can't, but the Spurs can dictate who the other guys guard depending on who they put alongside Wemby.
In the 2023 NBA.And on what planet is a power forward a perimeter player?
Never said we should, tbh. In fact, I said exactly the opposite.We are not and should not going to ask Wemby to guard Embiid and Davis.
But Mo Bamba provides the same amount of defense as Vuc. His defensive potential is all theoretical because of his size. he's a complete turnstile on D
you guys wanting to load the SL with non-shooters is weird. no thanks to Poeltl. I think Collins is actually a good pairing if you want to start another big with Wemby
I don't think Jakob is a good fit with Wemby. Not only would there be spacing problems. Jakob would also take away Wemby's place as the screen setter on pick and roll plays. I don't know if the rumours of PATFO thinking Jakob would be a great partner for Wemby are true, but I sure hope they aren't because it would mean they don't have the best idea of how to build around Wemby.
maybe they should pair him with a future all star like bertans
I'm still fully on board the Bertans' train, tbh. Isn't he a free agent or something? Get him back.
i respect the commitment
under contract for 17 mil this year
has an ETO/player option before the 24-25 season where he's due to make 16. at this point given his projected market he'd probably opt in for that
A lot of people who downplay Wemby's slight frame seem to overlook how many ways playing center exposes him to contact. It's not just defending in the post. Boxing out, setting screens, sealing off and being sealed off, contesting shots as the direct rim-protector rather than as a help defender. Just look at the beating Collins takes. Wemby doesn't have to put himself in a position to absorb as much contact as a shorter player would, but he's going to have to learn that. Him developing that understanding of technique and proprioception is part of why it's absurd to pretend Tim wouldn't be a fantastic mentor. That understanding will help him make up for what will likely always be a slight frame. However, until he learns that, players are going beat him up, and we don't know if he's going to be able to handle that. So no, you definitely start off protecting him as you let him develop his body and game. If that means the team loses some games due to sub-optimal spacing, so be it.
I'm not a fan of load-managing Wemby without seeing if he even needs it. I think the team should plan on him playing all 82 games. But in order to do that, they need to limit his minutes in general and his hard minutes in particular. I'd aim for 30 MPG with 6-12 coming at center depending on the situation. Then go from there. That leaves 36 center minutes and 30 PF minutes for Collins, Sochan and whomever else.
This sounds good to me. What do you think each of them would cost?Naz Reid and Cam Johnson would be a nice summer, tbh
How are they defensively, especially Naz Reid? Is he at least an above average defender?
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They can try but at the end of the day teams can put whoever they want on him.
Some 4s run point on pnr -very few- but the notion that modern 4s don't use the traditional high and low post on offense is ignorant.In the 2023 NBA.
So then you don't want him to play the 5.Never said we should, tbh. In fact, I said exactly the opposite.
We need 5s. I take what we can get as opposed to wishcasting a long range defending 5 to become available.
I want him to play the 5. Just don't guard those guys, which aren't many on the league, tbh. Just 3 or 4.
You watched the recent Lakers/Nuggets series. Davis is clearly the Lakers center yet he barely guarded Jokic. The same thing could be done with Wemby.
No, we don't. We just got a ticket for the best 5 of the next 20 years.
When are people going to realize Wembanyama is not a center?
Would have loved to get Horford and or Lowry for 2 or 3 years, but with the current FAs only Lopez somewhat fits (characterwise). Not a fan of Vanvleet or CP3.
Apparently, it's gonna take a while..
They started off with Davis on Jokic. Then they made a 4th quarter adjustment in game 1. You also saw how that worked out when they put someone without size onto Jokic.
I am seeing you only have the most facile takes.
Wembanyama is a C, just not a traditional one like Poeltl, so he'll need a specific type of C (like Collins) primarily starting next to him for probably a few seasons.
Then throughout the game, gauge what he needs next to him based on matchup (and availability).
Too many extreme views between those who think he should be the solo true big at virtually all times and those who not only think vice versa, but that a team already teeming with limited - non shooters needs to somewhat splurge on an aging one at C.
Lopez is not a middling shooter for his position. He's arguably the second-best behind Horford. Turner is up there in terms of percentage, but he doesn't attempt them enough. Lopez being old doesn't really matter because the point is to sign him to a short deal and phase him out and he wouldn't have to play full starters minutes with another starting candidate in Collins on board.
I've mentioned Meyers Leonard before and still think he's a good fit on the court. He's been a very efficient player and a very good shooter. The issue with him (besides the really obvious one) is that he's not the defender Lopez or Horford are. He's been okay some years and awful others. While I don't think him not being a great rim-protector would matter all that much playing next to Wemby, he needs to be able to hold up at the point of attack, or else he's not solving any problem. Is the juice worth the squeeze? Maybe. He really was pretty decent last year all things considering. But the Spurs don't exactly need to hunt for the bargain bin right now.
Would you guys take a chance on Lonnie Walker again as a 6th man?
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