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    - Thought Vassell had a great all-round first half and then an all too familiar second half...
    - Castle has got to play in the end game of these close contests.
    - Probably only rates overall 5 out of 10 on the "Spurs all-time loss frustration scale" or SALTFA for short (TM pending)
    I don't know but we just can't trust Castle right now. His shot is totally broken, and he can't seem to finish contested layups.

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    Cry all u want, but he is afraid to go to the basket
    It's not so much "fear" as he's addicted to the 3 ball. It's clearly his favorite shot, and he's made the stepback 3 his go-to shot. It's what his motor system defaults to doing when he doesn't have time to think.

    I've always said I'm fine with him shooting 3s liberally, PROVIDED that he doesn't make it his go-to move. Please, please, please don't be a 7'4 hyperstar whose favorite shot is a stepback 3. For 's sake, anything but that.

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    I don't know but we just can't trust Castle right now. His shot is totally broken, and he can't seem to finish contested layups.
    Hes gotta master the floater...Think i saw him shoot one and make it and didnt do again the rest of the game.

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    Most of my criticisms are about coaching and Sochan... But because this is the year y'all finally agree with me (I've been saying this since last season), u only get triggered by the Vic criticisms and don't notice when I do it to anyone else... Vic is the best player and deserves the brunt of the blame (aside from Mitch) when he goes 9/22 in a close game and has zero impact in the 4th... Let's bring back criticizing the best player... That's how they get better... Coddling then is how u get Embiid
    actually I’m saying something tonight because you have been putting the same criticism about Wemby on many occasions and not so much on other players. If it wasn’t the case, I would have not reacted.

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    This gives us picks 11-12-13 in the draft I’ll take that.
    A 4.5 % chance at the number 1 pick, same as the 9th team.

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    You really have to wonder how much longer this Vassell/Sochan/Johnson/Jones/Collins experiment can keep going. You really can’t fix BBIQ.


    The Spurs might be taking their patience approach too far. Claiming youth and development is an excuse. OKC full of young dudes, same with the Rockets.

    Some of these guys played a play-in game together. Yet they’re still clueless in the clutch?

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    The sad thing is that you could see that loss coming from mid 3rd quarter, and nothing was done to reverse the building negative momentum.. A mark of mediocre & bad teams is this "vomiting all over yourself over an extended period of time" part.

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    You really have to wonder how much longer this Vassell/Sochan/Johnson/Jones/Collins experiment can keep going. You really can’t fix BBIQ.


    The Spurs might be taking their patience approach too far. Claiming youth and development is an excuse. OKC full of young dudes, same with the Rockets.

    Some of these guys played a play-in game together. Yet they’re still clueless in the clutch?
    Long story short. They are who they are.

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    First time I'm pissed at Wemby. WTF when you get the ball in a very good position in the paint, you gonna pass out to Sochan for a three? WTF man

    Zero influx tonight, he disappeared in the 2nd half.

    I hope it was just a day without. We should NEVER have lost that game.
    Yeah, that was the dumbest play of the game. I knew they were blowing it at that point.

    How many dunks did Wemby have in the first half versus the second half? It’s the same story pretty consistently this season. On the other hand, the load he carries on defense is just absurd. No one in the NBA has to do more for his team on both ends of the court. It’s ridiculous.

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    Just watched the game. Can't believe we lost the game. I was sure it was a certain win.

    actually I’m saying something tonight because you have been putting the same criticism about Wemby on many occasions and not so much on other players. If it wasn’t the case, I would have not reacted.
    Without Chris Paul, IMO, this team would be bottom 5 again. If they didn't get Victor, is it possible they'd be the worst team of all time?

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    You maybe misunderstood what I was trying to say.
    If it's not about winning, but learning, then Castle must be on the floor way more than Keldon and must play through his mistakes.
    Maybe Mitch's strategy for Castle's development is to force him to watch Keldon yuck it up and tell him "see... don't be that..."

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    I want chicagos pick so idrc about this game tbh. Just more proof Vassell and Sochan aren't winning players

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    I don't know but we just can't trust Castle right now. His shot is totally broken, and he can't seem to finish contested layups.

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    I knew mid 3rd quarter that we gonna lose this one. Just lackadaisical play from everybody but CP3. Would've lost by 20 if it wasn't for Chris Paul making winning play after winning play in crunch time.

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    they lost it

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    I went to sleep and the score was 97-84 in the 4th with the Spurs winning. I wake up and see they ing lost. Can't say I'm surprised.

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    First time I'm pissed at Wemby. WTF when you get the ball in a very good position in the paint, you gonna pass out to Sochan for a three? WTF man

    Zero influx tonight, he disappeared in the 2nd half.

    I hope it was just a day without. We should NEVER have lost that game.
    Wemby is just doing what he sees as his job and what he's been taught to do. Which is pass to the open guy.

    The pb is that Sochan should never have been on the floor

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    The defense is fine. There are some lapses and miscues but our guys can actually come up with some stops when it matters. What’s not acceptable are these 3-4 minute droughts that seem to happen quarterly on a nightly basis. The win against the Clips is the only time I actually saw them put together a relatively complete game. Droughts will happen sometimes, that’s basketball. But nightly? Almost quarterly within a game? That’s ridiculous, I don’t care who’s on your roster.

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    I hope they really absorb this loss. The players hopelly seeing that you can't just stop playing midway through the game.
    The fact that Chris Pauls hustle plays was the only reason we only lost by 5.
    This is where putting your headdown and attacking the basket and creating fouls or looking for mismatches down low, etc needs to happen.
    Smart basketball. Not just, lets hope the next 3 ball goes in. Getting something going towards the basketball during droughts is crucial.

    These losses are worth it only if they learn from it.

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    Wemby could have destroyed the Bulls down low near the basket. They don't have anyone big enough to defend him. Instead the Spurs have him playing on the perimeter on too may possessions.

    Problem is the spurs are fundamentally flawed as a team, not having enough reliable shooters and Wemby gets swarmed if parked down low near the basket.

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    Wemby is just doing what he sees as his job and what he's been taught to do. Which is pass to the open guy.

    The pb is that Sochan should never have been on the floor
    No one is teaching him to pass the ball when he’s five feet from the rim, nor should he. His decision making definitely needs improvement.

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    Apparently there's been some tension in the locker room after the loss

    I like it

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    In the days of the Big Three the game in Chicago was always a tough one ... always on TNT Thursday and often a loss IIRC ... but man did our guys shat the bed last night. You should not lose to a team that should not be supposed to win.

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    Apparently there's been some tension in the locker room after the loss

    I like it
    I bet...Wemby is so good that if his teammates are just a lil bit better we could be contenders and top 5 team in the west.
    Wemby is playing with a bunch of role players,And its frustrating that we lose games cause we cant shoot or turn the ball over.

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    No one is teaching him to pass the ball when he’s five feet from the rim, nor should he. His decision making definitely needs improvement.
    He can't be the hero all the time, he's already carrying a huge load that clearly impacted him in the clutch recently.

    My point was just that he should be able to rely on opened teammates when he's doubled, Sochan should not be on the court at that time. Any decent shooter would've made the shot like vs MIN and the pass would've been "the right play" Wemby has been taught to do since a young age. It's all reflex at that point.

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