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    DOGE accused a US intelligence asset who the Taliban tried to assassinate three times -- of being in the Taliban

    DOGE should have known better, and they put his family's life in danger

    https://www.propublica.org/article/d...-peace-taliban
    Mohammed Halimi is about to be deported to the Taliban, by Trump. Victim of DOGE's false accusations and Trump's total immorality.

    Trump ended the Afghan War by surrendering to the Taliban in 2020, right?

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    lol you disappeared from your own thread in a hurry
    He knows

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    it's so easy to say, i was wrong

    I do it not infrequently

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    1. DOGE practices violate statutory requirements, creating unprecedented privacy and cybersecurity risks. During the SSA and OPM site visits, staff were provided information on the security practices of the DOGE employees that directly contradicted whistleblower disclosures, public reporting, and court filings. At GSA, senior agency officials could not inform staff on DOGE employee adherence to privacy and cybersecurity policy, guidance, and existing statute. DOGE employees’ reported actions appear to violate several provisions of the Privacy Act of 1974 and the E-Government Act of 2002 pertaining to the protection of Americans’ personal data and combination of data across agencies. Particularly at SSA, DOGE personnel are reportedly putting the sensitive personal information of all Americans at extraordinary and potentially catastrophic risk – and, given the lack of agency visibility into the cloud environment, we may never know the full extent of any damage done. One risk is that DOGE employees at SSA could potentially provide access to sensitive data to private companies.


    https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-cont...RT_FINAL_7.pdf

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    it's so easy to say, i was wrong

    I do it not infrequently
    Not for Trump and any and all of his followers, down to the rando message board poster

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    So who will be held accountable for all the DOGE ups?

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    quien sabe?

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    Definitely not anyone that should be held accountable.

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    Mohammed Halimi is about to be deported to the Taliban, by Trump. Victim of DOGE's false accusations and Trump's total immorality.

    Trump ended the Afghan War by surrendering to the Taliban in 2020, right?
    What, now y'all don't want to talk about Trump the peacemaker?

    That was one of the wars Trump ended. Trump paroled the Taliban and agreed to hand over power to them in 2021.

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    What, now y'all don't want to talk about Trump the peacemaker?

    That was one of the wars Trump ended. Trump paroled the Taliban and agreed to hand over power to them in 2021.
    winehole with no facts and talking out of his ass again....dont want to talk about the backdoor deal that Obama did with the #1 sponsor of terrorism Iran?

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    winehole with no facts and talking out of his ass again....dont want to talk about the backdoor deal that Obama did with the #1 sponsor of terrorism Iran?
    Trump 100% did a deal with the Taliban in 2020

    Not sure what you're talking about, can you be more specific? Sounds like whataboutism.

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    winehole with no facts and talking out of his ass again....dont want to talk about the backdoor deal that Obama did with the #1 sponsor of terrorism Iran?
    Why do you have to try to change the subject every single time?

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    Nobody wants the topic. It's always something else.

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    Trump/Musk have a lot of blood on their hands



    https://www.impactcounter.com/dashbo...itle&order=asc

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    The British medical journal Lancet found that in the absence of USAID’s funds and works, 14 million more people would die in the next five years, a third of those children under 5.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/huma...y?id=123483196

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    sidebar: from the Yale Human Rights Lab


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    if I'm not very much mistaken, DOGE lives on in some fashion at OPM

    For months, the young engineers who had descended on the capital to shrink the federal bureaucracy had lived with the ever-present threat of backlash — public scrutiny, upset Cabinet officials, even the prospect that someone might assert criminal charges against them. But on the morning of June 5 something changed: Their figurehead, Elon Musk, had a falling-out with his patron, Donald Trump, that played out very publicly across the two men’s social media platforms.

    The fate of their shared endeavor was now in deep jeopardy, and for the youngest members of the DOGE operation the risk seemed personal. Musk had not been just their visionary leader. For them, he was their protector: the man who had a direct line to Trump, who they believed could pick up the phone and secure a presidential pardon if the worst came. Without his presence in Washington, they were suddenly exposed.
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ssion-00641110
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    Unless 2nd amendment
    judicially things seem to be jamming up for Trumplandia, perhaps it's too soon to completely write off the old USA
    but the administrative coup is devastating

    El0n hacked the US system of payment, now Trump is using control of US payments to directly coerce US states, ins utions and legislators

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    the US Congress is supine to Trump's depredations, the House of Representatives has been on vacay since the summer, and SCOTUS awards Trump all the emergency equities while postponing the merits

    while the law and the people get trampled

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    Trump is getting propped up in the home stretch by auctioning off the West Bank to Miriam Adelson and a government post to Elon Musk, but bagging $1 billion in a few months is impressive.
    October 2024

    Turned out to be a good call

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    (El0n gave Trump ~$290M)

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    Over the subsequent days and weeks, rival factions would compete for control of what Musk had built. Some sought to burrow deep inside the federal government and continue business as usual; others wanted to collaborate openly with the parts of government they previously eschewed. One of Musk’s chief lieutenants would openly defy White House orders to step down. At the same time, Musk was angling to lure remaining staffers to jobs at one of his private companies.



    At a gathering in June, Donald Park, a senior DOGE figure, tried to reassure his colleagues that they were still “brothers in arms” and that Musk would continue to protect them. | Vivien Killilea/Getty Images for An American Fantasy



    This account of the DOGE supernova, which left behind nebulous remnants throughout the government, is based on contemporaneous notes, photographs, correspondence and screenshots of Signal chats provided by participants in them. We interviewed nine former and current DOGE employees, along with four other administration and White House officials, many of whom were granted anonymity to candidly discuss internal deliberations without fear of retribution.

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    At the center of it all was Davis, who, as DOGE’s operational lead, acted as connective tissue for staffers embedded across agencies and their backchannel to the White House. Davis served as a special government employee, a status that enables individuals to cycle through federal posts for a 130-day period without fully abandoning their private-sector careers. (Hollander, who did not respond to a request for comment, joined DOGE to shrink the government’s real estate footprint.) Davis called up agencies, demanding they grant engineers unfettered access to their data and systems. Once engineers were embedded in those agencies, often their only point of contact to DOGE was instructions or meeting invitations from Davis delivered through Signal, the team’s primary method of communication.


    Musk, too, was a special government employee but had the trappings of a Cabinet official, claiming a 10-room suite in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building as his own, along with a fleet of black SUVs to ferry him and top lieutenant Antonio Gracias around the capital. (Gracias did not respond to a request for comment.) Musk became a fixture at the White House, meeting weekly with chief of staff Susie Wiles and growing seemingly inseparable from Trump.

    Davis was never far away and invariably at Musk’s side during Fox News interviews that were the only official media appearances for DOGE’s leaders. He was also part of a small group that briefed Vice President JD Vance in early February on DOGE’s progress, according to internal records shared with POLITICO. (Vance’s office did not respond to a request for comment on the meeting.)

    DOGE’s rise and fall can be best measured through the impact of two blast emails to the federal workforce. The first, on Jan. 28 with the subject line Fork in the Road,” prompted more than 77,000 to accept deferred resignation offers, with a total of 154,000 workers taking that and subsequent offers this year. (The deferred resignation arrangement took effect in September.) Then, nearly a month later, Musk sent out emails to every federal worker asking them to respond with a bullet-pointed list of five things that he or she did that week.

    Cabinet officials, caught off guard by the mandate and implicit threat, scrambled to provide guidance to their staff. A number ofnational security agencies issued orders to ignore the request, out of concern employees would have to divulge confidential information by participating. Other agencies said they would respond on workers’ behalf.

    “The height of our power was the five-bullets email,” said a DOGE official, calling it a “mistake” that pitted DOGE against departments and agencies who were increasingly frustrated by Musk’s lack of communication and heavyhandedness. “Then it turned into fear and revulsion and hatred.”







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    In a March Cabinet meeting, Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy both confronted Musk over his chainsaw approach to cutting parts of their departments. He had a physical altercation outside the Oval Office the following month with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, after Bessent called Musk a fraud and Musk responded with a bodycheck, according to an account that former Trump strategist Steve Bannon provided to the Washington Post.

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    DON'T CUT



    The best way to keep the peace with the White House, Katie Miller advised DOGE leaders, was to collaborate with Cabinet secretaries and stop presenting them with cuts or efficiency projects they didn’t want to do. (She declined to comment on the call.)

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