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    I've actually been a little late to the party too. I've disagreed with a lot of what Pop has done the past 6 or 7 years, but I always still thought that he could be great, or at least really good again if he had a good team to work with. I think this season and a good chunk of last season has made me realize that he might be holding the team and players back.
    I don't know if he wasn't coaching hard (not emphasizing defense, not holding players accountable, not pulling players for mistakes etc.) the previous years as the Spurs were looking to get higher draft picks, but now it just seems like the players that had potential, they haven't developed at all and some have even regressed. It looked like this season he was trying to get back to his old self, but we didn't get to see how it played out due to the unfortunate thing that happened with his health . I really did want to see how he'd go this season as I thought he wasn't going to tolerate things he had be letting go the previous few seasons. I really thought he was going to get on guys about defense, so I'm not sure what would have happened if his health was OK and he was able to coach the whole season. It's a really crappy situation. He's done so much for the Spurs, it's tough to kick him to the curb like this, so I understand why it must be a tough/gut wrenching decision for those within the organization.

    The only way I could see this maybe working is if the Spurs get Bud as the HC and Pop sort of becomes his 1b. I don't know if it's worth risking his health being the head coach. But who am I to tell someone like Pop he can't do it and make his way back from this.

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    If Pop was coaching the whole season we‘d have even better draft odds. He would‘ve at least dropped 3-4 games that we won in the first half of the season due to his antics

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    ESPN has a feature length story on Pop this morning: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-antonio-spurs

    A story like this only comes out under two cir stances: 1) Spurs PR are setting up the plan for Pop to eventually return (on an unknown timeline, with Mitch as interim until then) or 2) Spurs PR are setting up Pop’s retirement.

    I lean to #1 just based on the tone of the story. It’s not the career retrospective of a GOAT coach that Pop will eventually deserve… it read to me totally like it’s setting things up for a long protracted wait on Pop, because, as the article basically states “he deserves that much”

    Buckle up boys and girls.
    Oh no

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    The old man holding this franchise hostage


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    its post-debate biden all over again

    hopefully we allow for an open primary to give a chance to outside talent instead of waiting last minute and anointing mitch harris

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    Pop remains

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    its post-debate biden all over again

    hopefully we allow for an open primary to give a chance to outside talent instead of waiting last minute and anointing mitch harris

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    I think he’s leaving. Why else the tears in the room when he finally met with the team, post Houston game?

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    I think he’s leaving. Why else the tears in the room when he finally met with the team, post Houston game?
    He told them he was coming back next year.

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    He told them he was coming back next year.
    No, that would be Noah’s ark level tears on ST.

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    I think he’s leaving. Why else the tears in the room when he finally met with the team, post Houston game?
    Maybe a normal human emotion to feel in the moment?

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    Maybe a normal human emotion to feel in the moment?
    Ahh yeah, that's what I was thinking. It was just some emotion shown since he's the coach and hadn't been there most of the season. Nothing else. People are overthinking.

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    He told them he was coming back next year.

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    He told them he was coming back next year.
    Lol

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    Pop remains by far the best option ... as long as nobody else worthy is available.

    Mitch makes things a lot worse and not sure what Bud would bring tbh

    Pop is perfect to keep developing Wemby and Castle and integrating Fox for at least a season, then let's hope either Memphis or Houston make the stupid move to get rid of their coaches

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    Pop remains by far the best option ... as long as nobody else worthy is available.

    Mitch makes things a lot worse and not sure what Bud would bring tbh

    Pop is perfect to keep developing Wemby and Castle and integrating Fox for at least a season, then let's hope either Memphis or Houston make the stupid move to get rid of their coaches
    The Rockets nor Grizzlies are getting rid of the coaches. Pop needs to retire. He isn’t up for the grind of developing a young team anymore. Spurs need a coach now to help guys break their bad habits.

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    Pop remains by far the best option ... as long as nobody else worthy is available.

    Mitch makes things a lot worse and not sure what Bud would bring tbh

    Pop is perfect to keep developing Wemby and Castle and integrating Fox for at least a season, then let's hope either Memphis or Houston make the stupid move to get rid of their coaches
    A coach who was on his way to his 6th straight losing season is "the best option"

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    Pop remains by far the best option ... as long as nobody else worthy is available.

    Mitch makes things a lot worse and not sure what Bud would bring tbh

    Pop is perfect to keep developing Wemby and Castle and integrating Fox for at least a season, then let's hope either Memphis or Houston make the stupid move to get rid of their coaches
    Lol

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    Hurley got knocked out of the tourney, that ends the ‘three-peat’ attempt. Hope the Spurs are on the phone with him - but I expect they’re not.

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    Why would a coach with no NBA experience be a good idea exactly?

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    Why would a coach with no NBA experience be a good idea exactly?
    It would be a gamble, but there's an argument that it's better to gamble than get a subpar veteran coach since currently available options aren't great.

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    It would be a gamble, but there's an argument that it's better to gamble than get a subpar veteran coach since currently available options aren't great.
    I don't know him enough to have a solid opinion tbh, but history says he'll need a period of adaptation at best.

    + Quid about his personality, level of psychology and management of adults and not students?

    Not trying to be a contrarian but it's not an exciting perspective to me.

    I'm afraid Spurs will prioritize corporate culture and find a way to sell Mitch for another season.

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    My worry is that Pop waits too long to retire and we miss a summer of strong leadership, development and planning. Running it back with Mitch as the backup plan is not going to work out optimally for anyone.
    Pop might be waiting until the season ends to decide or announce retirement or return.

    I'm not on the Coach Bud train. He looks out of sorts the past couple of seasons and PHX has shown little to increase my faith in him.

    Hard to know where Mitch ranks in the minds of the FO moving forward.

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    Following the recommendations here to poach the Grizzlies' assistant coach, I did a deep dive on them.

    I did not realize their head coach (Taylor Jenkins) interned with the Spurs, was head coach of the Austin Toros, and even had some overlap along with Quin Snyder there. Then, he was assistant coach to Mike Budenholzer in Atlanta and even followed him to Milwaukee.

    I could definitely be wrong (since I'm getting most of my info from Google) and please correct me if I am, but it seems coach Bud uses a "5-Out" offense. When Coach Jenkins went to Memphis, he brought in Noah La Roche (who's been running the "Read & React" offense since 2006) and EuroCup Coach of the Year: Tuomas Iisalo (who runs a "Read & React" clinic).

    Iisalo incorporated Coach Pop's "0.5" Basketball into his system.

    When Iisalo came to the Grizzlies, Tiago Splitter took over the Paris team with similar success (keeping the same system).

    I don't want Coach Bud, but I am intrigued about these coaches running the "Read & React" offense (La Roche, Iisalo, and Splitter).

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    My worry is that Pop waits too long to retire and we miss a summer of strong leadership, development and planning. Running it back with Mitch as the backup plan is not going to work out optimally for anyone.
    Pop might be waiting until the season ends to decide or announce retirement or return.

    I'm not on the Coach Bud train. He looks out of sorts the past couple of seasons and PHX has shown little to increase my faith in him.

    Hard to know where Mitch ranks in the minds of the FO moving forward.
    I know Pop made a promise to Victor to be there five years for him but life happens and I hope he recognizes that promise is now impossible and that the team needs to go get a coach this offseason. Pop coming back would just be ensuring Mitch is coach again next season whenever Pop suffers another setback.

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