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    Which is hillarious considering that Spurs owe most of their success to veteran play.
    how quickly we have forgotten about the past

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    Everyone assuming Castle and Harper are the future, let's just wait and see first. Damn the off-season daydreaming can get out of control. The Spurs are getting racked over the coals for giving a max deal to a guy who isn't even top 30. I don't have a good feeling about this. This is the biggest sign that Pop has been sidelined.
    Spurstalk is like that parent with unrealistic expectations for the kid when they are young, and then become over-bearing once they start to grow up. When the kid is a baby, the parent would be like "She can become a doctor because look at how much she likes to play with the toy stethoscope!" (Carter Bryant, Harper, to an extent Castle), but once the kid starts to get any screen time, it'd be "That lazy mofo is doing nothing but get on that stupid iPad, she will be homeless I bet you!" (Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, and now Fox).

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    To put this in perspective, as of now, by the time the contract kicks in for the 26-27 season, he will be tied at 17 in terms of salary at $49.64M, with Luka (thanks Nico) and Bam). The guys immediately below him, not counting rookie deals and rookie extensions (Like Ant, Tyrese, etc...), are players like JJ Jr, Lavine, Lauri, Sabonis, Anunoby and such. I'd say this is a fair contract just based on that.

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    If Wemby gets hurt the only thing that's moving are the Spurs.
    Spurs aren't going anywhere. They just had a huge investment in a practice facility. Project Marvel is going to go through and they will likely sign a 30 year lease and no doubt get a piece of bookings in the new arena when the Spurs aren't playing. COSA is handing the Spurs a huge cash cow to insure their long-term residency.

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    Spurstalk is like that parent with unrealistic expectations for the kid when they are young, and then become over-bearing once they start to grow up. When the kid is a baby, the parent would be like "She can become a doctor because look at how much she likes to play with the toy stethoscope!" (Carter Bryant, Harper, to an extent Castle), but once the kid starts to get any screen time, it'd be "That lazy mofo is doing nothing but get on that stupid iPad, she will be homeless I bet you!" (Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, and now Fox).
    Perfect analogy. Every draft pick is part of our "promising young core" but every veteran is a washed up loser, leaching money away from the SpursTalk server budget

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    Spurstalk is like that parent with unrealistic expectations for the kid when they are young, and then become over-bearing once they start to grow up. When the kid is a baby, the parent would be like "She can become a doctor because look at how much she likes to play with the toy stethoscope!" (Carter Bryant, Harper, to an extent Castle), but once the kid starts to get any screen time, it'd be "That lazy mofo is doing nothing but get on that stupid iPad, she will be homeless I bet you!" (Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, and now Fox).
    not to mention that some parents have unrealistic expectations. another analogy is the little league parent who thinks their kid can make it to the majors when maybe the ceiling is playing for a DII school. our expectations for KJ, sochan and vassell have to be tempered. in the end, the best case scenario for them is that they comprise a big chunk of a solid back up squad.

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    So what's the new nickname? DeEarnin Faux?

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    Im sorry, but 1 already lottery pick, 2 unprotected firsts and 5 2nds is not underpaying for a one time all star and I like Fox well enough. It was fair value.
    Lmfao amazing

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    Thanks for posting this… can’t wait to see fully healthy Fox with fully Healthy Wemby and the overall improved roster.

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    Yeah Fox hit a few daggers last season the Hornets game and the Memphis game for example. How are people not excited for Fox? He could really elevate the Spurs and it was a pretty fortuitous turn of events how SA obtained him.

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    So what happens with Harper and Castle? You don’t hand this kind of contract with multiple guys with potentially similar skills on the same roster
    So what happens is you have them through their rookie deals and first extension. That's about 3 years from now, you should have a pretty good idea of where you are skills wise with two young big combo guards at that point. You put up your hands and say well guys you have choices we can't afford three of you either people take cuts for the team and the agents work on compensation from having a player who gets major time in national games putting out his name for endorsement deals to make up for the smaller contracts or someone goes on the trade block. (probably fox at that point but depending on deal and packages we can work with other options.) This gives you flexibility, you have to remember that after year on it looked like Keldon was going to be a very good 3 and D small forward who had a drive the bucket option at times as well.

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    So what happens is you have them through their rookie deals and first extension. That's about 3 years from now, you should have a pretty good idea of where you are skills wise with two young big combo guards at that point. You put up your hands and say well guys you have choices we can't afford three of you either people take cuts for the team and the agents work on compensation from having a player who gets major time in national games putting out his name for endorsement deals to make up for the smaller contracts or someone goes on the trade block. (probably fox at that point but depending on deal and packages we can work with other options.) This gives you flexibility, you have to remember that after year on it looked like Keldon was going to be a very good 3 and D small forward who had a drive the bucket option at times as well.
    I never remember Keldon being projected as a defender at all, and he also didn’t win RoY. The comparison doesn’t stand up.

    When you have two guards who were top 4 lottery picks playing off a generational extraterrestrial, there’s a really good chance they both pop.

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    I never remember Keldon being projected as a defender at all, and he also didn’t win RoY. The comparison doesn’t stand up.

    When you have two guards who were top 4 lottery picks playing off a generational extraterrestrial, there’s a really good chance they both pop.
    Wasn't meant as a comparison was meant as a point that what is projected in the first couple of years of a NBA career doesn't happen. I do agree that I do think that both Castle and Harper turn out. Which is a big part of why I am ok with this contract. It lets you still have Foxes 4th year when you go D Now that you've got your Bag and a ring why don't you let us trade you to pick your big market team.... You go get a final Bag lead that team for a 4 year contract then come back retire in SA and raise the kids around their grandma and extended family.

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    Looking back, how much of question was it really that Fox was getting the full max full years extension?

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    Looking back, how much of question was it really that Fox was getting the full max full years extension?
    I never thought it was in any doubt once the Spurs traded for De'Aaron. You put up 25 a night on a compe ive team, you're a max player.

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    I never thought it was in any doubt once the Spurs traded for De'Aaron. You put up 25 a night on a compe ive team, you're a max player.
    Christ lol

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