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    sorry but pop as well as several team members have said THEMSELVES that their record is absolutely NO indicator of how "well" they are playing. pop even said if the playoffs started next week, he'd be VERY worried, and i dont think he was talkin just about detroit either. so YOU CAN STFU!
    No, you can look at where we are now and STFU...I agree that the SPURS are not playing up to their optimal quality, but it is still early. If this crap is still going on in March, I worry. We are fortunate to have the record we have now. I think that superfluous fans have the idea that we should go 82-0, that is never going to happen. We learn from losses more than from wins and we adjust. Losses by ONE are just as crucial to the learning and growth process of a team as wins by 20, maybe even moreso.

    We are not peaking yet, and I will bet if you do a retrospective this summer, Pop would tell you that he was glad we peaked when we did (still to come). I just think that Spurs fans have enjoyed this early success and do not know really how to handle it. We can go 30-4 in the beginning of a season and if we end up 62-20, I worry. Why? We are not PEAKING. Pop and the boys and us fans may know we are NOT playing well, but it is what it is. As long as we PROGRESS and not REGRESS, we will be ok.

    Thoughts?

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    Anyway, Bowen isn't the problem. He's one of the positives.

    Spurs need to get healthy and someone else needs to emerge as a second rebounder.

    Now that Manu is (hopefully) healthy, Finley should adapt to getting a certain amount of playing time and getting in the game at certain times off the bench. I'm not really worried about the wingspots.
    Rebounds are about effort, just like defense. I predict that both will start to come up as the rotation stabilizes.

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    No, you can look at where we are now and STFU...I agree that the SPURS are not playin g up to their optimal quality, but it is still early. If this crap is still going on in March, I worry. We are fortunate to have the record we have now. I think that superfluous fans have the idea that we should go 82-0, that is never going to happen. We learn from losses more than from woins and we adjust. Losses by ONE are just as crucial to the learning and growth process of a team as wins by 20, maybe even moreso.

    We are not peaking yet, and I will bet if you do a retrospective this summer, Pop would tell you that he was glad we peaked when we did (still to come). I just think that Spuirs fans have enjoyed this early success and do not know really how to handle it. We can go 30-4 in the beginning of a season and if we end up 62-20, I worry. Why? We are not PEAKING. Pop and the boys and us fans may know we are NOT playing well, but it is what it is. As long as we PROGRESS and not REGRESS, we will be ok.

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    alright but my point was their record IS fools gold. they are much worse than 30-9 or whatever they are

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    yeah Sequ, you're goin a bit far. bowen is the only guy who can afford to have a measly looking stat sheet b/c what he brings defensively cannot be matched. granted he was a no show at the DET game I still think he needs to be valued.

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    Didn't you quit on the Spurs?
    you quit on them after game 1 of the playoffs last year, wtf are YOU talking about Vince Carter ball sniffer.

    You are so stupid.

    Bowen averages 8 points a game and leads the league in 3 point shooting, while avergaging 0.6 turnovers a game and anchoring the D.

    The scoring isn't supposed to come from Bowen. Five scorers doesn't win Championships. Ask the Suns.

    Sequ continually gets owned on Bowen...


    Rebounds are about effort, just like defense. I predict that both will start to come up as the rotation stabilizes.
    Exactly, but that would take patience, wich no one here has!

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    granted he was a no show at the DET game


    Go watch the tape. Only four baskets were scored against him all game.

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    but my point was their record IS fools gold
    So ing what...

    Would you rather they be 23-14 than 28-9???

    Good god.....

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    alright but my point was their record IS fools gold. they are much worse than 30-9 or whatever they are

    It is only fools' gold if we are 73-9 and still not playing well when the playoffs come around. There are many many weeks and games left before that time. If we are not clicking, we will lose in a playoff series. It is that simple.

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    haha i have seen the spurs play in previous years but as impressive as kicking the Suns' ass in every game on their floor during the playoffs i think life would be MUCH easier ESPECIALLY against detroit with HCA. we are something like......let me grab my Spurs stat book..........ahh yes...........1173-4 in the last 3 years on our home floor. so HCA could be the make/break of our championship run
    I agree that HCA would be nice, but I'm not going to say that it's the make or break. While you have your stat book out, look up two things for me:

    1. The runs the Spurs historically make once they start to come together. They are usually 3-5 games behind someone at this point in the year. They usually have a chance to catch them by the end of the season. Historically, the Pistons are unlikely to hold this pace, and even if they do the Spurs will have a chance to catch them.

    2. How many games the game against Detroit was. Last I checked it was worth 1. At best, you can make a case that it's a tiebreaker game, so it didn't destroy the season.

    If the Spurs had played the way they did against the Pistons and actually won I would be worried that they had very little chance of learning a lesson. Getting embarassed was a good thing. At some point they will get pissed off and start taking it out on people.

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    Okay changing the subject, after Manu missed the dunk, Tim and Bruce were taunting him from the bench and Manu was fuming

    He's so compe ive, it's awesome.

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    Go watch the tape. Only four baskets were scored against him all game.
    Hmmmmmm it "felt" like Rip was on fire the entire game but I'll def. take your word on it Kori that Bowen probably did do better than I'm giving him credit for during that game.

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    Hmmmmmm it "felt" like Rip was on fire the entire game but I'll def. take your word on it Kori that Bowen probably did do better than I'm giving him credit for during that game.
    Rip scored 10 baskets .. 3 were on Fin/Manu on switches early and 3 of them were on Tony in the 4th Q.

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    If we are not clicking, we will lose in a playoff series. It is that simple.
    Well put. Playing well in the playoffs is the ONLY THING THAT MATTERS. The Spurs won't beat anybody in a seven game series if they aren't clicking.

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    I agree that HCA would be nice, but I'm not going to say that it's the make or break. While you have your stat book out, look up two things for me:

    1. The runs the Spurs historically make once they start to come together. They are usually 3-5 games behind someone at this point in the year. They usually have a chance to catch them by the end of the season. Historically, the Pistons are unlikely to hold this pace, and even if they do the Spurs will have a chance to catch them.

    2. How many games the game against Detroit was. Last I checked it was worth 1. At best, you can make a case that it's a tiebreaker game, so it didn't destroy the season.

    If the Spurs had played the way they did against the Pistons and actually won I would be worried that they had very little chance of learning a lesson. Getting embarassed was a good thing. At some point they will get pissed off and start taking it out on people.
    good post but the part where you said "at some point they will get pissed off..." HOW LONG till we get to that point?? havent they been embarassed enough? they all talk about this week being a measuring stick etc.. and I barely have seen any realy signs of them "waking up". out of the last 5 years never have i seen the spurs respond so badly to a loss as constantly as this season.

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    Rip scored 10 baskets .. 3 were on Fin/Manu on switches early and 3 of them were on Tony in the 4th Q.
    You know Rip was dying to score on Tony, too.

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    Okay changing the subject, after Manu missed the dunk, Tim and Bruce were taunting him from the bench and Manu was fuming

    He's so compe ive, it's awesome.
    That was funny! Manu had that "give me the ing ball" look after that.

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    That was funny! Manu had that "give me the ing ball" look after that.
    True. And then he had a bad turnover.

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    One thing is for sure, Manu wasn't fuming half as much as most of the people that got stuck in the bull traffic and didn't make it to the game til the 2nd quarter. I barely made it for tip-off.

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    Okay changing the subject, after Manu missed the dunk, Tim and Bruce were taunting him from the bench and Manu was fuming

    He's so compe ive, it's awesome.
    Most compe ive guy I have seen in ANY sport. He probably shows TD and TP his BMs and compare them for size... , I would!

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    One thing is for sure, Manu wasn't fuming half as much as most of the people that got stuck in the bull traffic and didn't make it to the game til the 2nd quarter. I barely made it for tip-off.
    Yeah they were commenting on that during the first quarter. Was it because of the circus??

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    good post but the part where you said "at some point they will get pissed off..." HOW LONG till we get to that point?? havent they been embarassed enough? they all talk about this week being a measuring stick etc.. and I barely have seen any realy signs of them "waking up". out of the last 5 years never have i seen the spurs respond so badly to a loss as constantly as this season.
    I understand what you are saying, but does their record really bear that out? How many times have they lost twice in a row this year? How many more times is that than previous years? You could practically pick out the games they were going to lose. This game against the Pistons is the only game that you would have figured the Spurs would have found a way to win based upon their tendencies this year, and they were playing a pretty decent team, who is playing very well and has a severe chip on their shoulders. Pop is just now starting to get after the team, and he's going to start lighting people up for lackadaisical effort more and more. He will also start using PT as a carrot/stick for the players.

    How long until we see them start to turn it around? We'll see brief flashes here and there, but I believe that it won't happen until they lose to either Charlotte or New Orleans in a couple of weeks. If they are still struggling by the middle of February, I won't challenge anyone on their worrying posts.

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    Oh by the way...if you did not see the compe ive THIS BULL look from Manu in the play when he slammed the scorer's table in the Pistons game, then you missed on a chance to see a look at a TRUE compe ive soul...You that saw it kjnow what I mean!

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    Yeah they were commenting on that during the first quarter. Was it because of the circus??
    That and there was an accident at I-35 and SBC Center Parkway. From what I understand, they had let people from the afternoon circus show park over in arena parking and they hadn't all left when people were coming in for the game. It was a total cluster . They apologized to everyone over the PA and I just got this in my email.

    The Spurs organization would like to apologize for the inconvenience that many of you may have experienced in getting into the facility tonight.

    We appreciate your patience and we will take measures to prevent this from happening again.

    Once again, we apologize and thank you for being the greatest fans and season ticket holders in the NBA.

    Go Spurs Go!

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    Oh by the way...if you did not see the compe ive THIS BULL look from Manu in the play when he slammed the scorer's table in the Pistons game, then you missed on a chance to see a look at a TRUE compe ive soul...You that saw it kjnow what I mean!
    He talked about that with Bill Schoening during pre-game. He said that he was running all over the place and couldn't make anything happen, so he was very frustrated.

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    Most compe ive guy I have seen in ANY sport.
    There was this guy who played for the Bulls a few years ago...

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