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    btw. what is eccentric about Barnes?
    He makes Travis Barker look normal...?

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    If the Spurs are seriously attempting to add another Forward and they are over the lux tax threshold, the Spanoulis release needs to be contractually nailed down first. It's only $1.9M downward, but that being finalized would be a necessary gate-opener for the potential next move.

    There is also that cash from Houston and where it is leveraged. Yes, the pockets of the Spurs' organization is the quick answer but what influence will it have?

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    If the Spurs are seriously attempting to add another Forward and they are over the lux tax threshold, the Spanoulis release needs to be contractually nailed down first. It's only $1.9M downward, but that being finalized would be a necessary gate-opener for the potential next move.


    Seriously mister D? You think Spanoulis contract is holding something up?

    I hope you're right.


    Gyroboy needs to get that notification in so we can move on then...and stop talking about how he doesn't want to play in the NBA.

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    the only other fall back option I see is if the Spurs throw a little money at CJ Miles to see if they can steal him from Utah.
    its likely that utah will not keep him because he refused to play in the summer leauge.

    Even though the question was about Rafael Araujo's decision to play in the Rocky Mountain Revue, Jazz coach Jerry Sloan's answer couldn't have made more clear his feelings about fellow free agent C.J. Miles decision to sit out.
    "Anybody that's trying to be with our team, you would hope that they would try to make themselves better," Sloan said. "You don't make yourself better staying at home."
    Miles is said to have decided the injury risk of playing was too great with a new contract at stake, although it is not known what teams have interest in him besides Utah. Araujo decided to play as an audition for the Jazz and rest of the league.
    Sloan went on to say of Miles, "I just hope that he understands that playing basketball is what he needs," and didn't sound the most confident that the 20-year-old guard, a restricted free agent, would be returning to Utah.
    "We wish him luck whatever happens," Sloan said. "We've been here for two years and we'd like to see him do well, whatever the case may be."
    http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_6344441

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    However, Udoka is the only cheap wing option that fills a long-term need for the Spurs. If the Spurs miss on him, I'm not sure where they go next.
    In order of expected expense/salary:
    Swingmen:
    Barnes
    Patterson
    Singleton
    ?Sanikidze?

    Bigs:
    ?Blatche? (remember, we took that shot at Amir Johnson. Blatche is a UFA might just have more potential, and should be in the same price range; the Wizards spent a chunk of their MLE on Deshawn Stevenson)

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    I haven't figured out why so many people call this guy Bowens replacement considering he's what 31 or so. Short term answer when in reality we don't need one. Bowen can give us at least 2 more seasons.

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    In order of expected expense/salary:
    Swingmen:
    Barnes
    Patterson
    Singleton
    ?Sanikidze?

    Bigs:
    ?Blatche? (remember, we took that shot at Amir Johnson. Blatche is a UFA might just have more potential, and should be in the same price range; the Wizards spent a chunk of their MLE on Deshawn Stevenson)
    Blatche is actually a Restricted FA, and there are other teams reportedly hotter on his trail (Mavs being one of them).

    The full MLE has been brought up more than once, which I'm sure is well above what the Spurs are willing to pay.

    And again, since he's restricted the Wizards have the opportunity to match.

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    http://www.portlandtribune.com/sport...61900157901100

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    The Portland Tribune, Jul 17, 2007

    Weeks ago, Portland and Orlando executives discussed a trade that would have sent center Joel Przybilla to the Magic for small forward Hedo Turkoglu, but it’s not going to happen.

    “We have no interest in trading Turkoglu,” says Dave Twardzik, Orlando’s director of player personnel.

    “We intend to keep Joel,” Portland General Manager Kevin Pritchard says. “You can’t have too many quality bigs.”

    • Ime Udoka’s price tag has dropped, but it seems unlikely the Jefferson High and Portland State grad will wind up with the Blazers again.

    Portland could sign him for the $1.8 million biannual exception, giving him two years at about $3.8 million, but the Blazers will have 15 players with guaranteed contracts once restricted free agent Travis Outlaw is in the fold.

    Udoka’s agent, Erin Cowan, says he has offers from two other teams — one of them is believed to be San Antonio, though Cowan wouldn’t confirm it.

    “We’ll probably get it done no later than Wednesday,” Cowan says.

    Pritchard says he wouldn’t make a decision on Udoka until after Outlaw’s situation is cleared, and he thinks that could take at least several more weeks.


    • Another example of changes by the new regime in Portland: Broadcasters Brian Wheeler, Mike Barrett and Mike Rice have agreed to two-year contracts. It’s the first time a Blazer voice has been given a multiyear deal since Bob Whitsitt became president in the mid-’90s. Analyst Antonio Harvey has signed a one-year contract.

    • Blazer rookie Josh McRoberts was one year ahead of fellow Indianapolis native Greg Oden in school. They played AAU ball together and high school ball against each other.

    “Greg’s a little bigger than me, but in high school, I had to guard him,” McRoberts says. “Their team was a little bigger and better than ours. He didn’t have to guard me. He just kind of stood in the lane and blocked every shot.

    “He’s one of my good friends. We hang out when we’re back home in Indianapolis. Before the draft, we’d do workouts and I’d see him every day. We were joking around about how maybe somehow I could end up in Portland. It worked out.”

    With Oden and LaMarcus Aldridge out of the final three summer-league games in Las Vegas, McRoberts took advantage of his playing time and made his presence known. A very clever passer, the second-round draft choice has an excellent feel for the game, a nice midrange shot and scoring potential with either hand around the basket. McRoberts’ 360-degree spin dunk Saturday against Phoenix was “SportsCenter”-worthy.

    “I played some point guard as a freshman and sop re in high school, before I got too big to play there,” the 6-10, 240-pound former Duke standout says. “The easy part of the game for me is passing. I take pride in that.”

    (Full article discusses summer league players from other teams)

    — Kerry Eggers

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    Blatche is actually a Restricted FA, and there are other teams reportedly hotter on his trail (Mavs being one of them).

    The full MLE has been brought up more than once, which I'm sure is well above what the Spurs are willing to pay.

    And again, since he's restricted the Wizards have the opportunity to match.
    You think he'll get the full MLE? That was indeed floated in a number of newspapers originally, but I suspect that was his agent talking up his man. I rather suspect that Johnson set the market by taking 11m/3yr.

    The wizards have matching rights (either Early Bird or Bird), however, having resigned Stevenson (at something close to 15m/ 4yr ~ 3.5m/yr to start I guess), they are at the Lux tax limit before resigning him. I am confident they would not be willing to match a full MLE, and likely less. Other teams know this as well - therefore, he will likely not get a full MLE offer.

    Dallas was over cap this year, before resigning Stackhouse (21m/3yrs) and George (2.4m/1yr). After signing them, they have 16 contracts, not including any of their rookies this year (although that does include Barea and Mensah-Bonsu, whom I'm not sure are guaranteed). They drafted/traded for Reyshawn Terry, Fazekas and Sebuitis (likely to stay in Europe). Financially, it seems insane to offer Blatche a lot, and Cuban is starting to respect the Lux Tax. Also, they will have huge difficulties with roster spots...

    I haven't seen any information on which other clubs are interested in him, but I can see it being us after our pursuit of Johnson. I also suspect that he is going to get money in Johnson's range, which we have demonstrated a willingness to offer to a young big with potential...

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    “We’ll probably get it done no later than Wednesday,” Cowan says.
    Good to know. Udoka's fate should be settled today or tomorrow.

    Once that shoe drops, that should free up the Spurs to do whatever else they are looking to do in the summer.

    How nice would it be to sign Udoka to the LLE, trade Barry (and Beno?) to Seattle for a pick and then use the MLE.


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    [With Oden and LaMarcus Aldridge out of the final three summer-league games in Las Vegas, McRoberts took advantage of his playing time and made his presence known. A very clever passer, the second-round draft choice has an excellent feel for the game, a nice midrange shot and scoring potential with either hand around the basket. McRoberts’ 360-degree spin dunk Saturday against Phoenix was “SportsCenter”-worthy.
    's sake did we blow the 33 pick.

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    's sake did we blow the 33 pick.

    it sure does look that way. i thought m. williams was a good offensive player. so what happen.

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    Thats ok, Portland can have Cherokee Parks squared.

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    The situation with Outlaw and his contract is similar to when Darius Miles was a restricted free agent a couple years ago, but then the Blazers made a huge offer to Miles without having any other team in on the bidding. This time, fiscal responsibility and logic ruled the day.

    It's probably also worth noting the contract is similar to the one offered to free agent small forward Ime Udoka by the San Antonio Spurs.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22800.shtml

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    The situation with Outlaw and his contract is similar to when Darius Miles was a restricted free agent a couple years ago, but then the Blazers made a huge offer to Miles without having any other team in on the bidding. This time, fiscal responsibility and logic ruled the day.
    They've been one of the best young up-and-coming teams in the last two years. Haven't made a bad move, even the small draft picks.

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    Why couldnt we make a run at Outlaw? Dirk stopper anyone?

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    Why couldnt we make a run at Outlaw? Dirk stopper anyone?
    I'm pretty sure I saw reports saying the Spurs were interested. He probably either did not want to sign, wanted too much money, or, and probably most likely, the Blazers wanted to S&T him and the Spurs could not offer anything decent for him.

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    Outlaw was signed for 3 years at how much? $12mil?

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    Pritchard says he wouldn’t make a decision on Udoka until after Outlaw’s situation is cleared, and he thinks that could take at least several more weeks.
    So with Outlaw signing today, it might push the Blazers back into the running. I know they have 15 players but Portland is overloaded at point guard.

    I could imagine a scenario in which the Blazers make a trade including point guard to open up a spot for Udoka. Especially if Udoka's price tag is less than $2M per year.

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    wich would screw the Spurs over in more ways than one.

    Oh well.

    Holt doesnt give a about winning, so why should we.

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    I haven't figured out why so many people call this guy Bowens replacement considering he's what 31 or so.
    Because he's 30...the same age as Bowen was the year he joined the Spurs.

    Short term answer when in reality we don't need one. Bowen can give us at least 2 more seasons.
    Bowen is 36 years old, right now...he might be able to keep turning the clock back...but you'd be an absolute fool to expect and count on that happening.

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    Obviously the Spurs should bring a couple hundred men who just turned 30 or are about to turn 30. No one would score a point on them.

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    Because he's 30...the same age as Bowen was the year he joined the Spurs.



    Bowen is 36 years old, right now...he might be able to keep turning the clock back...but you'd be an absolute fool to expect and count on that happening.
    I agree that a younger wings is imperative. Just because Bruce is a marvel defying the time doesn't mean we should be complacent.
    We must have at least two young players, one of whom must contribute for the championship quest this year and three more next year with two contributers.

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    What if the Spurs already have their Bowen-replacement on this roster....in Marcus Williams?

    For all the crap that has been said of his performance in just 7 or 8 summer league games, it is apparent that he can do one thing very well....and that's defend.

    I'm not sure that he can be an elite, Bowen-level defender, but then again I'm not sure Udoka could be that guy either.

    I'm not advocating that the Spurs alter the course and look elsewhere, especially when Udoka might be had on the cheap...but I am saying that it appears the Spurs have a defense-oriented wing player already on their roster, and it looks like they'll at least be commited to seeing how he works out for this year.

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    Can Williams really defend or is it one of those "face for radio" pseudo-compliments?

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