That's pretty idiotic. There are some players better suited for Europe than the NBA. If Pekovic is as unathletic as he sometimes looks, he might be one of those said players.
You must make silly joke. He is maybe WORST big man defender in all Greek league and is so poor he is cut from Olympiacos team for poor play on defense. Coach even keep track of how many point he give up and almost twice as many as he score. Jackson is crap player even in Greek league level. Pekovic is many time better player than him. Coincidence Olympiacos play terrible when he play big minute then play very good when he get bench then cut from team?
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 04-01-2008 at 11:30 PM.
He can be similar player for Spurs as Rasho but maybe better than Rasho possible even if he keep develop at this rate. He have actual ability score in post. I not sure Splitter can be such player for Spurs but it hard to judge until we see him in NBA.
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 04-01-2008 at 11:31 PM.
Spanoulis is maybe fastest and quickest player in Europe and how many of the "he more suit to Europe" crap posts we see from fans of NBA? I not even sure what such statement mean anymore.
Diamantidis is very slow player and is more suit to Europe than NBA but he is POINT GUARD. Pekovic is CENTER and strong even compare as NBA center. How fast is centers of NBA? Sure must be Pekovic be faster than Yao Ming.
It takes more than just speed but lets not get into a Spanoulis debate...
Pekovic vs Yao is a terrible comparison...
I just think Splitter will be a better NBA player than Pekovic... he is a much more fluid mover and will be a much more effective defender..
Pekovic doesnt look to be all that long either, which will give him even further problems if he steps up to the next level.
Maybe this true but right now Pekovic at Euroleague level is better player than Splitter.
Also part I mark about Spanoulis. Like I say always hear American fan say "not suit for NBA better for Europe" see this say so many time for many Euro players. And always they say "too slow not athletic enough cannot adjust against quicker faster more athlete player of NBA"
But like I say Spanoulis very maybe is fastest and quickest player of Europe and he always get say as "more suit to Europe" so what exact this "more suit to Europe" mean? It actual mean speed or just way of say "Euro player suck"?
Because it just made up for player like Spanoulis he "not fast enough for NBA". I think this "suit for Europe" is some made up craps. Player either good enough for NBA or not. No such thing as "more suit for Europe".
Spanoulis is MORE suit for NBA than Europe base on speed and style of play. But he "more suit to Europe" base on message board opinion.
I not sure this argument mean anything anymore. Like say it true in some case like Diamantidis but in some case where true not mean it should always be argument use almost for every Euro player.
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 04-01-2008 at 11:51 PM.
dont these two statements:
kinda contradict?
but i do get what you are saying. the "better suited" argument is way overused. but, as you even you pointed out, it does hold true for some players (and not just the really slow ones). and while id probably argue its not that big an issue for pekovic, you have to at least ask the questions.
and even you know the yao comparison isnt fair. yao is the slowest player in the entire league (by a good margin), but hes also extremely skilled as well as being as tall as a redwood. putting pekovic up against przybilla and rasho would be much more apt athleticism wise, and even then that might be his top end. that added to a potentially limited offensive skill set, and questions are going to be raised (which, along with contractual issues, will drop him into the 2nd round IMO).
but again, i like pekovic on the nba level at least as a project, and agree entirely on the pekovic > splitter comment as far as euro is concerned. thats not even really debatable with how pekovic has been playing this year.
Pekovic isn't interested to play in NBA. He has said "I don't want to go in NBA. I just don't like this league."
He is automatically eligible in the 08 draft. He could have been a first round pick if he were ready to play in NBA next year.
It will be interesting to see if a team will spend a draft pick on him with the hope that he changed his mind on the NBA one day.
Last edited by Bruno; 04-02-2008 at 07:09 AM. Reason: :)
Pekovic = diva
Could you guys post some information on Pekovic.... other than just stats and height.. i dont know much about him to be honest
Yes he have same opinion as Diamantidis. Diamantidis have been offers MLE before by some NBA teams and refuse and say similar things as "I do not like NBA league or game or teams."
Wow!
Awesome suite of posts here! (well, except mine of course)
Great quality, arguments, informations, willing to find an agreement...
Keep on going, guys!!
I thought Diamandtidis said he didn't want to play in the NBA because he doesn't think he has the speed to play the NBA game...
FWIW...I think he could play in the NBA, and I wanted the Spurs to sign him a couple of years ago.
He wouldn't be as good over here...but he'd still a good player over here, better than many.
Both but he have speed for NBA it just he have to play SF. Diamantidis is really point forward but he get big head and want only play point guard. He is Bowen type player and will be SF in NBA or should be I think. Except he have more offense ability than Bowen. Still his offense is very poor.
He is player always say he hate NBA he has say this every time he is ask about it. Trust me Spanoulis is much better player.
I just hope Spanoulis comes and plays for the Spurs and not some other team like Houston or Sacramento.
He would be the ideal backup for Tony and a little for Manu too.
He is weight lifting almost ever day so if he come back to NBA he is big enough to also play SG. He is do the weight lifting 5 hour each day I think 5 time during week.
But I think some problem maybe for him come. Because Panathinaikos owner tell reporters that Saras will stays with team this after they keep asking because he play poor and is bust and cost so much. Also because coach mad at him for ego and ball hogging in Euroleague.
Panathinaikos owner say Saras is stay with team then after press already start says that owner is already try send him to Barcelona so can hand the team to Spanoulis. Owner name Spanoulis as "franchise" player and say "it will take me to turn crazy for me to give him up again"
So it seem they will try send Saras to Barcelona and this would make Spanoulis much more happy with role in team. So he have less reason to leave. But I think if owner really try keep Saras NBA team can get Spanoulis. Because Panathinaikos team is go no place unless Saras change ways and he will not.
I not sure about Kings now because Udrih have play well for them. They should just want to keep Udrih. But the GM and owners of Kings team recent time contact Spanoulis agent and said they would like him as starter at point guard. This should not be problem for them now since Udrih is play well. But Kings have been team with most interest for long time. Spanoulis tell me when I ask about which team interest that Kings try trade Artest to Rockets to get him and then they make him starter at point guard instead Rockets gm decide he rather have Scola than Artest. This in off season before Udrih is with them.
Spanoulis would have stay to be starter but he say to me that Rockets actual want to make Artest trade and turn it down because they not want Spanoulis get start spot with Kings. They want punish him for demand out of contract.
Anyway thing work good for Rockets get Scola, Kings get Udrih, PAO get Spanoulis but Spurs gets cap reliefs only.
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 04-02-2008 at 08:02 PM.
Im hoping Spanoulis will make the trip back over... i think we all know he has the talent to play in the league... its if he really wants it.
Partizan win over TAU today by 76-55
Pekovic have 19 point 5 rebound and 22 player ranking
Splitter have 3 point 3 rebound and 8 player ranking
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 04-03-2008 at 03:33 PM.
Yikes. What accounted for Splitter's poor showing?
Like I say he is go up against real best C of Europe now.
But what accounted for his poor showing.
Now i know why your all over Pekovic's nuts now..... hes going to Pana next year
This isnt good for Splitter... but Pekovic's defense is pretty average so i cant see that being the factor.
Wow Splitter played 13 minutes...
Took only 3 shots
What the is up with that
Splitter struggled a lot on the offensive end in this game.
He was mainly defended by Vranes (a typical white big stiff). Splitter was just uninspired and mechanical.
Splitter was also out-muscled on the boards and picked too much fouls.
The only positive for him in this game was his defense.
It's a game to forget for Splitter and Tau.
Game 3 will be at Tau on Wednesday.
Last edited by Bruno; 04-04-2008 at 03:58 PM. Reason: wrong date for game 3
He's all over Pekovic's nuts, I'll give you that... But Pekovic is pretty good. He's doing as well as Gasol did in Euroleague when he came over - in his first real shot at Euroleague compe ion. Euroleague play level has gotten better since Gasol came. And Pekovic isn't yet shown to be a softie a la Gasol... He'd be a VERY nice 2nd round pick.Now i know why your all over Pekovic's nuts now..... hes going to Pana next year
This isnt good for Splitter... but Pekovic's defense is pretty average so i cant see that being the factor.
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