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    The problem is that as a first round pick he would have to take less money to sign with San Antonio.

    He gets more money, plays in a comfortable environment and has half as many games to play.

    If he were a 2nd round pick you guys could try to offer more money, use some of the MLE, but he would have to take a pay cut to come over now.

    Same thing is going on in Portland with Rudy Fernandez.

    NBA teams should stop drafting Euros in the first round, or have a seperate Euro draft or they are going to stop getting quality Euros going forward.

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    All the NBA has to do is remove the Europeans from the rookie classification. Problem solved.
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    Kinda reminds me of the ABA NBA days. ABA players were getting paid millions of dollars much more than they made in the ABA to make the jump to the NBA. The ABA was considered a joke league or lessor league than the NBA. When guys like Dr. J signed a huge contract to join the NBA it was big news. I see parallels to the NBA and Euroleague. Nobody should be jumping from the Euroleague to take less money to play in the NBA unless it's for huge dollars. This is a business after all.
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    RULE 1=NO EUROS IN FIRST ROUND EVER. good idea
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    2007:
    Scola sucks! It's no loss. Splitter is better than him anyway!

    2008
    Splitter sucks! It's no loss. Mahinmi is better than him anyway!

    2009
    Mahinmi sucks! It's no loss. Oberto is better than him anyway!

    2010
    Oberto sucks! It's no loss. Anybody still have Robert Horry's number?
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    Europeans shouldn't even be in the draft. These guys are professionals. Just pay them and have them count against the salary cap.
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    2007:
    Scola sucks! It's no loss. Splitter is better than him anyway!

    2008
    Splitter sucks! It's no loss. Mahinmi is better than him anyway!

    2009
    Mahinmi sucks! It's no loss. Oberto is better than him anyway!

    2010
    Oberto sucks! It's no loss. Anybody still have Robert Horry's number?

    AHAHAHAHAHA
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    what's predictable is that all the anti-Scola reactionary nonsense is now going towards Splitter.

    Scola "couldn't play in the NBA", "could only play in europe", "Splitter is much better suited anyway for the Spurs" blah blah blah

    Now it begins anew. Splitter can't play in the NBA. Splitter's game is european. Mahinmi is much better for the Spurs anyway.

    lol

    This is on the Spurs. Blame Splitter all you want, but the Spurs are responsible for their own franchise, not Splitter.

    Splitter didn't force the Spurs to give away Luis Scola for nothing then turn around and sign MATT FREaKING BONNER to the same exact contract.

    The Spurs flat out weren't good enough to give away talent for nothing but business implications without suffering big time for it. It was buffoonery to think otherwise. And now the 'grass is greener' gamble with comparing how much better the Spurs would be with Splitter game looks to be all but over.

    Maybe if the Spurs had Scola, Splitter's best friend, on their roster that would have been enough to sway Splitter.

    But tough luck now.
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    What's even more predictable is how all the "Spurs shoulda signed Scola!" threads will be resurrected because of this.
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    So let me get this straight:

    Tiago tells Spurs he will come to NBA if drafted by them.

    He gets drafted by Spurs and everyone is cool.

    Week before Spanish final he is considering an offer to sign with Tau or as some think will sign due to the amount of $$$ between the two offers is substantial.

    Does this sound like we are about to get Boozered?
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    Boozer was worse because the Cavs had him under contract with an option for the third year, but were talked into letting it go.
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    The worst part of this is the wasted #1 pick. Since we don't have another one next season (because of the KT trade) this is a crucial throw-away.
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    what's predictable is that all the anti-Scola reactionary nonsense is now going towards Splitter.

    Scola "couldn't play in the NBA", "could only play in europe", "Splitter is much better suited anyway for the Spurs" blah blah blah

    Now it begins anew. Splitter can't play in the NBA. Splitter's game is european. Mahinmi is much better for the Spurs anyway.

    lol

    This is on the Spurs. Blame Splitter all you want, but the Spurs are responsible for their own franchise, not Splitter.

    Splitter didn't force the Spurs to give away Luis Scola for nothing then turn around and sign MATT FREaKING BONNER to the same exact contract.

    The Spurs flat out weren't good enough to give away talent for nothing but business implications without suffering big time for it. It was buffoonery to think otherwise. And now the 'grass is greener' gamble with comparing how much better the Spurs would be with Splitter game looks to be all but over.

    Maybe if the Spurs had Scola, Splitter's best friend, on their roster that would have been enough to sway Splitter.

    But tough luck now.
    You better believe it. There's no sense in getting mad at Splitter. He's obligated to no one but himself. Lay blame on the Pop and R.C.
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    I have see him in several games and also playoff. He is faster and more athletic than Paul even is. But he have ZERO point guard ability or IQ. He is much less point guard than Iverson is.
    This is just completely wrong, Brooks is a fine passer, he may not be as good as your mancrush, but he is a very nice PG, especially as a change of pace off the bench.

    I expect him to be this team's Bobby Jackson type of player going forward.

    Instant game changer off the bench.

    As for Splitter, the NBA needs to find a way to fix the problem, they could exempt Euros but that would open up a new can of worms as every talented US High School player would then go to Europe to avoid the rookie scale contract.

    Ultimatly it may come down to a seperate draft, or a transfer system much like soccer.


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    You better believe it. There's no sense in getting mad at Splitter. He's obligated to no one but himself. Lay blame on the Pop and R.C.
    I'm not blaming anybody until it's definite. Splitter may surprise us yet.
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    Lots of time and angst is going to be wasted looking back. What we need to be doing is looking forward to players who can help rebuild this team.

    For various reasons, we cannot count on another year of adequate play from Thomas, Finley, Barry and Horry. Pop really counted on these players to come through again this year and it didn't happen. Stoudamire was a late season crap shot that didn't pan out and Vaughn is barely adequate at PG backup.

    That's six players that we need to replace. And Udoka and Bonner haven't proven themselves yet in my estimation. Udoka is streaky on defense and offense.
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    Europeans shouldn't even be in the draft. These guys are professionals. Just pay them and have them count against the salary cap.
    i agree with this kind of approach!
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    No news in Brazil press today.

    We may now more next week when Splitter will arrive here to play with the National Team
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    Spurs just don't have much room to make the kind of improvements needed.

    There aren't too many open roster spots. Barry and Vaughn are still under contract, there's little chance of them getting bought out.

    The only youth so far you can count is Mahinmi, and there's no guarantees he gets any chance from Pop whatsoever.

    Their 08 first round pick is up in the air. If they draft a euro, he stays overseas to either never come over or get traded. If it's an NCAA product, their history the last decade or so indicates they'll blow it on someone who isn't an NBA caliber player that can help this team.

    Viktor Sanikidze who was drafted ahead of Trevor Ariza can't get anything beyond a summer league invite.

    No team will collude with them like Memphis did with the Lakers.

    They have no cap room larger than the MLE, and the free agent class is poor. Maybe they can do sign-and-trade Van Horn type deals with Horry or Finley or Thomas, but the pickings are slim.

    Splitter was the key. Not because he was going to be a star, but because at worst he would likely have been a rotation playing big man on a cheap contract allowing the Spurs to best spend their limited resources elsewhere. Now that's likely done.
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    Lots of time and angst is going to be wasted looking back. What we need to be doing is looking forward to players who can help rebuild this team.

    For various reasons, we cannot count on another year of adequate play from Thomas, Finley, Barry and Horry. Pop really counted on these players to come through again this year and it didn't happen. Stoudamire was a late season crap shot that didn't pan out and Vaughn is barely adequate at PG backup.

    That's six players that we need to replace. And Udoka and Bonner haven't proven themselves yet in my estimation. Udoka is streaky on defense and offense.
    Barry and Thomas will be back and expected to play significant roles. Mahinmi will take Horry's slot. Vaughn will exercise his player option, probably. Finley's spot will be filled by an MLE swingman like Boki Nachbar or Mo Evans. Stoudamire's spot will be filled by somebody off the street.
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    Well, is Splitter gone or is he just entertaining the offer?
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    All the NBA has to do is remove the Europeans from the rookie classification. Problem solved.
    But NBA have many stupid coaches like Jeff Van Gundy and Larry Brown. No matter how much experience player have in international compe ion like Olympics, World Championship, European Championship or even play many year in Spanish league or Greek league these type coaches believe they "rookie".

    NBA is full of such idiots would try block them be classify different because if they change this for money reason these same idiot coach will have to treat player as veteran and this hurt with their belief that "coach know everything".

    Just imagine if these players is now consider veteran how this will drive such coach like this crazy.
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    The worst part of this is the wasted #1 pick. Since we don't have another one next season (because of the KT trade) this is a crucial throw-away.
    this is why we need to have a good recuitment of FA's
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    But NBA have many stupid coaches like Jeff Van Gundy and Larry Brown. No matter how much experience player have in international compe ion like Olympics, World Championship, European Championship or even play many year in Spanish league or Greek league these type coaches believe they "rookie".

    NBA is full of such idiots would try block them be classify different because if they change this for money reason these same idiot coach will have to treat player as veteran and this hurt with their belief that "coach know everything".

    Just imagine if these players is now consider veteran how this will drive such coach like this crazy.
    Brown does not appear to be getting any play in a new coaching job. Van Gundy? It remains to be seen if any other NBA management wants to take him on. By now everyone knows Van Gundy's reputation. If you were a general manager with Van Gundy as your coach you'd be stupid to draft any Europeans. Likewise it would be stupid for a European player to play for Van Gundy.
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    Barry and Thomas will be back and expected to play significant roles. Mahinmi will take Horry's slot. Vaughn will exercise his player option, probably. Finley's spot will be filled by an MLE swingman like Boki Nachbar or Mo Evans. Stoudamire's spot will be filled by somebody off the street.

    If they got a Maurice Evans that wouldn't bother me too much. He played pretty well for the Magic. I'd prefer James Jones, but Mo Evans wouldn't be that bad. Although i think he might just be another Ime Udoka though.
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