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    Here you go hater. I challenge you to read this:

    https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...nt_unclass.pdf

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    still


    waiting


    chump





    Read the report. I'll wait. Only takes an intelligent person a few minutes.

    https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...nt_unclass.pdf

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    nope u claimed this

    How does that change anything in his report that Dennison confirmed on national television?

    what according to you was confirmed to on national television chump?


    waiting.....

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    if the complaint is accurate, Rudy Giuliani and the US AG Bob Barr were essentially running a shadow Ukraine portfolio for Trump.

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    That's you in a nuts , hater.

    You don't read . You're ignorant. You have horrible takes. You don't call anything because you call everything every possible way so you can say you called it.

    If you refuse to know even the basics of the impeachment case by reading eight pages, why are you even in this thread?

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    We do not have evidence for the underlined. Did Trump say he had a talk with Putin about how they could sway Minnesota red? (If Trump did have this call it did not work, red team lost Minnesota by a hair in 2016.)

    What we know about is the call with Ukraine. I prefer to stick with that for impeachment. Once our legitimate politicians who care more about our democracy than their party get to his financial dealings and other transgressions, more illegal dealings may come to light. If the blue team wants to start laying down clutter...

    Mueller said the evidence did not point to collusion. He left it up to the people in politics to deal with multiple transgressions in other areas and the blue team could not get most of it to gain any traction with a large majority of Americans because it is more complex imo.

    jeezus

    misinformation ^

    mueller did not say that - there was collusion in your face - in public

    mueller said;
    1) russia attacked the usa in a comprehensive campaign to sway the election in favor of trump and agaist hrc
    2) trump team welcomed russias attack
    3) #1 & #2. - above did not/could not rise to the level of a “chargeable” conspiracy to defraud the usa for several reasons
    A) all trump team lied about their contacts and barr/rosenstein made sure mueller could NOT compel trumps criminal spawn to be held accountable - it is in the report that mueller had a list of who he could prosecute (manafort/gates/flynn/cohen) - and jr and jared and ivanka could not be touched
    B) trump team hid/lost/destroyed/ memos, emails, texts, etc
    C) the OLC policy that a sitting prez cannot be charged - but investigative findings CAN be used after trump leaves ofc
    4) trump refused to testify, lied on his written testimony and barr would not allow mueller to compel testimony




    i didnt say or opine that the mueller stuff be included in impeachment as it only allows the criminals in the wh andthe GOP to muddy the waters- again

    but this bull of “mueller found no collusion” is straight out of the trump/russia talking point manual

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    That's you in a nuts , hater.

    You don't read . You're ignorant. You have horrible takes. You don't call anything because you call everything every possible way so you can say you called it.

    If you refuse to know even the basics of the impeachment case by reading eight pages, why are you even in this thread?
    nope u claimed this

    How does that change anything in his report that Dennison confirmed on national television?

    what according to you was confirmed to on national television chump?


    waiting.....


    still waitin chump

    cant even name 1 single thing you claimed was confirmed

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    nope u claimed this




    what according to you was confirmed to on national television chump?


    waiting.....


    still waitin chump

    cant even name 1 single thing you claimed was confirmed
    Do you even know what the whistleblower claims are, hater?

    Sum them up for me real quick.

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    cant even name 1 single thing he says was confirmed on national television

    lol chump

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    You've been fapping to dictators this whole time.
    lol pretty spot on

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    cant even name 1 single thing he says was confirmed on national television

    lol chump
    Sure I can.

    Trump admitted he asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens and Crowdstrike.

    Didn't you know that?

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    having an AG who is both toady and fixer is kinda creepy.

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    lol pretty spot on
    He reads the out of their quotes. It's basically all he reads besides unverified twitter accounts that back up one conspiracy theory or another.

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    Sure I can.

    Trump admitted he asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens and Crowdstrike.

    Didn't you know that?
    not a crime

    next

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    not a crime

    next
    hater moves the goalposts and redasses his ignorance of the entire impeachment issue.

    You got showed up. It was so easy.

    Next.

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    That's you in a nuts , hater.

    You don't read . You're ignorant. You have horrible takes. You don't call anything because you call everything every possible way so you can say you called it.

    If you refuse to know even the basics of the impeachment case by reading eight pages, why are you even in this thread?

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    Federal judge calls BS on White House trying to censor staffers in hearings


    , a federal judge in Washington, D.C. today, refuted the White House’s efforts to control what officials and former officials say when subpoenaed.

    “We don’t live in a world where your status as a former executive branch official somehow shields you or prevents you from giving information,” the judge told the Trump administration.

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281688&p=9961502#post9961502

    Of course, the bag incompetent Federal Repug-hacks-in-robes being rammed through by MoscoMitch would always support a criminal Repug President



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    having an AG who is both toady and fixer is kinda creepy.

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    Darrin, of course, loves it.

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    not a crime

    next
    it's not a requirement that a crime have been committed, to impeach and remove. maladministration is impeachable, intemperance is impeachable, why not corruption as well?

    as Gerry Ford once said,

    an impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be.

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    Degrading themselves beyond Redemption ...

    Christian leaders laid hands on and prayed for Donald Trump ahead of impeachment vote






    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/chr..._campaign=2861

    Evangelicals wonder why their flock is decreasing? wonder why more people are not affiliated with their venal snake oil shows?



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    “Everything is gauged by politics,” he continued. “And, as I said, that’s an hetical to how the department runs, and any attorney general in this period is going to end up losing a lot of political capital, and I realize that and that’s one of the reasons that I was ultimately persuaded, that maybe I should take it on because I think that [at] my stage in life it really doesn’t make any difference.”

    "I am at the end of my career," Barr, 69, said.

    "Everyone dies, and I am not, you know, I don't believe in the Homeric idea that, you know, immortality comes by, you know, having odes sung about you over the centuries, you know?" he added.

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    GOP’s ‘pathetic and laughable’ excuses for Trump torn to pieces by conservative Matt Lewis

    Lewis starts out by laughing off the notion that impeachment — which is a process outlined in the Cons ution — is some kind of extrajudicial Soviet-style “coup” against the president.

    He then goes on to tackle what he describes as the more “insidious” of the anti-impeachment arguments in which

    Trump is treated as too immature or unintelligent to knowingly commit crimes.

    “In this paradigm, Trump is just a big kid who means well and can be forgiven for not really knowing what he’s playing with,” he writes.

    “Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations!…

    Donald Trump has been president for almost three years.

    To suggest that he is still ‘inexperienced in foreign affairs’ is, itself, an assertion arguably more disqualifying than corruption.”

    even more disturbing: Republicans who think Trump is guilty of shaking down Ukraine to investigate his political rivals but who just don’t care.

    when the topic of impeachment came up, he dismissed it with a yawn. Sure, he conceded, Trump is guilty, but ‘so what?’ All politicians are corrupt, and besides, it’s not like we were expecting Trump to be a paragon of ethics.”

    will only embolden Trump to commit worse offenses in the future and

    will set a future precedent in which it’s acceptable for presidents to extort foreign countries to investigate their rivals.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/gop..._campaign=2861

    =================

    The Excuses for Trump Just Keep Getting More Pathetic and Laughable Every Day

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-ex...litics&via=rss

    We Serious People not that Spurstalking Trash fellators echo the risible bull that is dictated to them by the Repugs / right wing hate media.



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    Trump’s First Impeachment Win
    The House’s resolution should have been the easiest for Republicans to go along with. None of them did.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-trump/601213/

    His first impeachment "win" was that they finalized the procedures for his impeachment?

    Or was it that the Republicans could make an easy "no" vote?

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    jeezus

    misinformation ^

    mueller did not say that - there was collusion in your face - in public

    mueller said;
    1) russia attacked the usa in a comprehensive campaign to sway the election in favor of trump and agaist hrc
    2) trump team welcomed russias attack
    3) #1 & #2. - above did not/could not rise to the level of a “chargeable” conspiracy to defraud the usa for several reasons
    A) all trump team lied about their contacts and barr/rosenstein made sure mueller could NOT compel trumps criminal spawn to be held accountable - it is in the report that mueller had a list of who he could prosecute (manafort/gates/flynn/cohen) - and jr and jared and ivanka could not be touched
    B) trump team hid/lost/destroyed/ memos, emails, texts, etc
    C) the OLC policy that a sitting prez cannot be charged - but investigative findings CAN be used after trump leaves ofc
    4) trump refused to testify, lied on his written testimony and barr would not allow mueller to compel testimony




    i didnt say or opine that the mueller stuff be included in impeachment as it only allows the criminals in the wh andthe GOP to muddy the waters- again

    but this bull of “mueller found no collusion” is straight out of the trump/russia talking point manual
    He did not have the evidence to say Trump colluded with the Russian government.
    End of story. Don’t lie.

    Do you really think Trump had a sit down with Russian officials on how and where to plant people at rally’s and how and where to put the Facebook ? You really believe this? He may not have minded, but he certainly did not plan with them, there is no evidence of this type of planning other than his silly rants to crowds.

    Trump team welcomed Russian attacks... Because he said read Hillary’s email or find the emails? BS exaggerating
    What Trump did NOT do enough of, or vacillated on, was condemning the interference. He actually did condemn it, then he would not when asked to. Not surprising as he is stubborn as .

    Just as Winehole has pointed out, just like boots, your partisan does not go over well. And yet you claim your team is more honest. Act that way. You are exactly why the blue team loses.

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