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    in related news, VP Harris will isolate until she tests negative, contrary to CDC guidance that it's ok to return to work after 5 days.

    back to normal for thee, but not for me

    Quadruple dosed and scared, poor old fella.

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    81 and smarter than you.

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    Quadruple dosed and scared, poor old fella.
    Once boosted, FYI.

    I'm still still trying to suss out the next step.. If I can manage to avoid infection until nasal vaccines get here I think I'll be good..

    I'm not personally scared, I've a strong physical cons ution and rarely get sick. And by rarely, I mean I have trouble remembering exactly the last time I was sick. Happens on the order of once or twice a decade for me in my adulthood -- more commonly when I was young, tbh. My daily work has involved close contact with the public since this whole deal started, gotta say there's been an element of luck, everyone gets sick eventually.

    You guys avoid all the topical handles and personalize everything, but epidemiology isn't personal.

    Y'all's avoidance of the actual topic stands out. COVID has been fairly extreme. Can you name another single cause that killed a million people in the USA in two years time?

    Is there another widespread infection-- beside flu, a perfectly serous pathogen -- that causes so many chronic problems?

    Cardiac, renal, neurological, hepatic, vascular, pulmonary and immunological complications of long duration can be caused by COVID. Repeated infection seems to amplify the risk rather than conferring natural immunity. This isn't speculative at all -- it's already been clocked. OG Omicron does not protect very well against Omicron relatives.

    You and DMC are the gaslighters. Or you just haven't been paying attention. Or you just don't care what happens to people. Y'all being dead inside and oblivious to emergent phenomena is a kind of stupidity. I'm not a big worrier, but tbh the worriers have had the better of the argument on this topic so far, so much so that minimizers like you look either moronic or sadistic.

    Maybe both, to be frank.
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    To quantify it in the last two years, COVID has been about as deadly as cardiac disease (which accounts for about one out of four deaths in the US annually, it's a little more serious than COVID if you're only looking at annual deaths -- an artificially narrow perspective, tbh.)

    Pretty impressive for an infectious disease, heart trouble isn't. There's no vaccine for heart failure.
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    (In passing, one confounding factor here is that COVID *causes* heart disease. And diabetes. DVTs and strokes too.)

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    'Tis mild


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    The hypotheses that (1) COVID will attenuate in severity and (2) confer greater and greater immunity over time, seem not to be holding up very well.

    It ain't the common cold.

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    BA.2.12 has is about to overtake BA.2, OG Omicron is barely out there now.

    Coming over the horizon, but now dominant in South Africa: BA.4 and BA.5.


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    It's a shame we can't get such clear, accessible information from the CDC. We're now at roughly the peak positivity rate of the Delta wave.

    https://www.walgreens.com/businessso...d-19-index.jsp


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    Cases count, the proportion of fully-vaccinated folks who will face Long COVID from infection by Omicron has been estimated at ~5%. A portion of these will have chronic disabilities from organ and vascular damage and will require prolonged medical care, even after mild/moderate disease.

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    - "I'll shut it down."
    - Biden

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    BA.2 may not be milder than OG Omicron

    Highlights
    ●The effective reproduction number of BA.2 is 1.4-fold higher than that of BA.1

    ●BA.2 is resistant to BA.1-induced humoral immunity

    ●The BA.2 e is more fusogenic than BA.1 e

    ●BA.2 e-bearing virus is more pathogenic than BA.1 e-bearing virus
    https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S...674(22)00533-5

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    - "I'll shut it down."
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    What % of mild cases get brain aging equivalent of 20 years?

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    What % of mild cases get brain aging equivalent of 20 years?
    Wtf?

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    Had a very mild sore throat from omicron. No brain damage.

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    Had a very mild sore throat from omicron. No brain damage.
    How would you know?

    You're so dumb you probably wouldn't notice if your brain shrank.

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    cellular aging due to COVID correlated appears to correlate with severity; as with so much else, it'll probably take awhile to sort out, and may not be a constant. SARS-CoV-2 evolves quickly -- new variant waves seem to come about every four months.


    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e...147-X/fulltext


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    Republicans won't fund it, but Dems were too chicken to fight for it because of the Article 42 poison pill.


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    Boiled down:::
    1,022,000 Americans dead in the ground.
    & counting...

    as
    "I will shut it down." Biden
    squats in the White House.

    5.4.2022


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    n=130,000+

    The B.1.1.529 (Omicron) variant of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) has previously been reported as more transmissible, but less severe than other SARS-CoV-2 variants. To test this assumption, we linked state-level vaccination data with quality-controlled electronic health records from a large healthcare system, including 13 hospitals, in Massachusetts, USA. We then performed a weighted case-control study to compare risks of hospital admission and mortality across the SARS-CoV-2 waves in over 130,000 COVID patients. Although the unadjusted rates of hospital admission and mortality appeared to be higher in previous waves compared to the Omicron period, after adjusting for confounders including various demographics, Charlson comorbidity index scores, and vaccination status (and holding the healthcare utilization constant), we found that the risks of hospitalization and mortality were nearly identical between periods. Our analysis suggests that the intrinsic severity of the Omicron variant may be as severe as previous variants.
    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1601788/v1

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    Boiled down:::
    1,024,000 Americans dead in the ground.
    & counting...

    as
    "I will shut it down." Biden
    squats in the White House.

    5.5.2022


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    Who hasn't had covid at this point?
    I haven't.

    About half of America hasn't had it either, that being a conservative estimate...
    ditto for me and wifey, as far as we know. its possible we had totally asymptomatic cases at some point, no way to know for sure.

    did catch some stomach bug back around the new year, but tested twice and was negative for covid both times. wasnt fun though

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