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Cohen Among Select Few Charged With Lying to Congress
"only six people have been convicted of perjury or related charges in relation to Congress in the last sixty years.”
https://www.rollcall.com/news/politi...lying-congress
Senate Committee Refers Perjury Cases to Mueller For Prosecution
The Senate Intelligence Committee has referred perjury cases to Special Counsel Robert Mueller, Chairman Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) said Friday.
Mueller is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election and Burr’s committee has done its own investigation into the same matter.
Burr disclosed that after witnesses were questioned in the Intelligence Committee’s Russia probe several were suspected of lying.
“We have made referrals from our committee to the special counsel for prosecution,” Burr said at a national security conference in Austin, Texas.
“In a lot of those cases, those might be tied to lying to us.”
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12...iticus+USA+%29
Perjury is almost NEVER prosecuted, and when a politicized, compromised asshole crook like Repug Whitaker is running DOJ, then a Repug DOJ prosecuting Repugs?
Then why has Repug Burr referred Repug and Repug-side people for perjury?
Cohen Among Select Few Charged With Lying to Congress
"only six people have been convicted of perjury or related charges in relation to Congress in the last sixty years.”
https://www.rollcall.com/news/politi...lying-congress
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow explains how we finally know why Mike Flynn lied
'Compromised by Russia from the very beginning.'
Rachel Maddow went back to the start of the saga, when Donald Trump staffers like Michael Flynn and his aide K. T. McFarland were the focus of investigation and speculation.
"The big question about Flynn—and this has been raised over and over again by critics of the Mueller investigation—why did Mike Flynn lie about this?" Maddow asked.
"There's always been
something hard to figure out about the Flynn case... why did Mike Flynn lie about this stuff?"
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow explains how we finally know why Mike Flynn lied
Flynn was fired from his job as national security adviser after he apparently lied to Vice President Mike Pence about his communication with Russian officials.
But this was far from his only lie, Maddow said.
"Mike Flynn also lied about those conversations he had with Russia talking about sanctions," she said.
"He lied in public.
He lied to reporters.
He lied to the FBI.
Why were they lying about it?
I mean, on its face,
they didn't need to. It would make sense that they'd be talking about sanctions to the Russian government conceivably.
They're the top two security officials in the National Security Agency for the incoming administration.
Obviously there is going to be a change on the policy. It's not that weird.
But they lied about it."
Because Flynn and McFarland lied, Maddow said, "they were both compromised by Russia from the very beginning."
"The story about Russian government hackers being exposed for their role in trying to get into our elections—
that was the reason they stopped working on the Trump Tower project that day.
The secret project they'd been working on for many, many, many months including direct contact with the Kremlin and planned travel to Moscow stopped that day.
Why? What was the connection between those two things?"
"If the big picture Russian dream here is to have their very own president of the U.S.A.,
if their dream is to compromise an American presidential candidate so that candidate is beholden to them and then install that compromised candidate as president,
then the Trump Tower Moscow project which compromises Trump and the election interference campaign [ruins it],"
https://www.alternet.org/msnbcs-rach...ike-flynn-lied
Ex-DOJ: Trump is “talking like the head of a drug cartel”
Justice Department officials says Trump violated oath of office by attacking Michael Cohen for guilty plea
“That clip that you played earlier on the south lawn of the White House talking about Michael Cohen being weak as opposed to some other people,” said Matthew Miller, a former Justice Department spokesman.
“Who does he mean by the other people?” Miller continued.
“He means Paul Manafort, who has torn up his cooperation agreement, and
I suspect he means Roger Stone, who continues to say he will not cooperate with the special counsel.”
Miller said those comments may have violated the president’s oath of office.
“The president is talking like a mob boss,” Miller said.
“He’s talking like the head of a drug cartel,
not like the president of the United States who swore to uphold and take care that the laws be faithfully executed.”
“I think it was a remarkable moment to see the
president talk about people who cooperate with law enforcement are weak and
people who don’t cooperate or that lie to the Justice Department or
that try to protect criminals
are strong.
A really, really awful moment for the president and awful moment for the country.”
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/01/ex-...artel_partner/
Last edited by boutons_deux; 12-01-2018 at 10:40 AM.
Republicans trivialize Trump associates' illegal acts as mere 'process crimes'
Republicans are calling him a victim of the special counsel's fixation on so-called "process crimes."
And by using the term "process crimes," they're apparently
trying to insulate Trump from legal jeopardy
related to the 191 charges Robert Mueller has now brought against 30 individuals,
As the MaddowBlog's Steve Benen notes:
[Sen. Lindsey] Graham, who has emerged as one of Trump’s fiercest defenders, said he had “no idea what that’s all about”
when asked his reaction to Cohen’s guilty plea, adding that it
“seems to be a process crime.”
Soon after, Rush Limbaugh complained,
“Every one of Mueller’s indictments is a process crime.”Process crimes are apparently crimes committed during the investigation of a crime, rather than the actual crime being investigated.
all Trump boosters are now on-message about "process crimes, not cover-ups,"
likely because one of the most oft-repeated political adages since Watergate is: "
It's not the crime, it's the cover-up." https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1816298
So the anti-American Repug/hate media "message" is that coverup crimes are ok, yawn.
But what about the Trash + mafiya crime(s) being covered up?
Last edited by boutons_deux; 12-01-2018 at 11:31 AM.
Early in my reporting that unraveled the origins of the Trump-Russia collusion probe, tying it to Hillary Clinton's campaign and possible Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuses, I started to see patterns just as in the old mob meetings: FBI or intelligence-connected figures kept showing up in Trump Town USA during the 2016 campaign with a common calling card.
The question now is, who sent them and why?
Interviews with more than 50 witnesses in the Trump case and reviews of hundreds of pages of court filings confirm the following:
At least six people with long-established ties to the FBI or to U.S. and Western intelligence made entrees to key figures in the Trump business organization or his presidential campaign between March and October 2016;
Campaign figures were contacted by at least two Russian figures whose justification for being in the United States were rare law enforcement parole visas controlled by the U.S. Justice Department;
Intelligence or diplomatic figures connected to two of America's closest allies, Britain and Australia, gathered intelligence or instigated contacts with Trump campaign figures during that same period;
Some of the conversations and contacts that were monitored occurred on foreign soil and resulted in the creation of transcripts;
Nearly all of the contacts involved the same overture - a discussion about possible political dirt or stolen emails harmful to Hillary Clinton, or unsolicited business in London or Moscow;
Several of the contacts occurred before the FBI formally launched a legally authorized probe into the Trump campaign and possible collusion on July 31, 2016.
The recipients of these overtures are all household names, thanks to the infamy of the now very public probe - Paul Manafort, Donald Trump Jr., Michael Cohen, Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Sam Clovis and Roger Stone, to name a few.
Some of the instigators of the contacts have been acknowledged in public: Professor Stefan Halper, Russian businessman Hank Greenberg, former MI6 agent Christopher Steele and former FBI informer Felix Sater, who is "Individual 2" identified in the Cohen plea deal this week.
Others I identified through interviews, but U.S. officials have asked me to keep them private to avoid compromising their iden ies or nexus to intelligence and law enforcement work.
The chances that so many would converge into then-candidate Donald Trump's circle, in such a short period around an election, are about as rare as winning the Mega Millions lottery. In other words, most were not coincidences. A few, maybe, but not all.
And that leaves the biggest question: Who dispatched or controlled each emissary?
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...mpression=true
sniff sniff - what is that?
OH - I KNOW -
ANOTHER conspiracy theory cooking!
FBI/Dems didn't trick Trash into renting TT space to Russian mafiya mobsters.
Trump’s résumé is rife with mob connections
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.491621d7d46d
what your hypothesis, TSA?
It’s never changed. Russian “collusion” was a set up.
you’re now down on djohn’s level go find some more fake news to pushsniff sniff - what is that?
OH - I KNOW -
ANOTHER conspiracy theory cooking!
you blame Obama?
I’m sure he was aware of what was happening but I don’t blame him or think he was the mastermind behind it.
You keep saying that. How does the set up all work?
And why would any government do such risky things when no one thought Trump would win?
"Insurance" would be a stupid reason. You don't risk that kind of exposure on insurance -- that's the opposite of insurance.
Winehole23 what do you think is causing the recent wave of fake news stories attempting to damage Trump?
who was the mastermind?
Can you be more specific? The press scrum around the President is more or less normal.
Mr. Trump himself causes a lot of his own bad press and I don't recall that his predecessor ever got a break from rumor/scandal-mongering.
I would say the large number of people who lied about the Trump Org and the Trump campaign's dealings/negotiations with Russia -- including Trump himself -- have already damaged Trump.
Why did they lie, if everything they were doing was "very legal and very cool"?
Last edited by Winehole23; 12-01-2018 at 03:06 PM.
It's just as easy to believe Trump supporters are releasing those stories to discredit the media. As WH said, there's been a whole lot of lying going on around Trump.
The term "fake news"
comes from Russia.
Russia's "asset" introduced YOU (his cult) to that term.
Now you shoot that out from your Trump -holster like a good boy.
Will you drink the kool-aid upon your cult leaders order?
I doubt you will answer.
Dunno.
What do you think?
A set up like Guccifer 2.0?
Uh...maybe...
those are just factual and your cult leader is a
ING CRIMINAL WHO IS COMPROMISED BY A FOREIGN GOV'T
TSA can’t even name anything he has been right about. Poor has been reduced to posting CNN and DIlycaller after he laughed at using them for sources
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