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Day 15: Camp Casey
Thanks to a generous land-owner who felt sorry for Cindy sleeping in a ditch, AND Cindy Sheehan supporters, Camp Casey has gone from this:
To this:
I'm telling ya folks, there's soming special happening here...
All this is nothing new, well, except for Whott. The US likes to make sure it never loses in the Middle East by hedging it's bets on both sides on any conflict. Iraq-Iran, Palestinians-Israel, Egypt-Israel, Jordan-Israel, the list goes on and on and on.
No matter what happens we win.
Day 15: Camp Casey
Thanks to a generous land-owner who felt sorry for Cindy sleeping in a ditch, AND Cindy Sheehan supporters, Camp Casey has gone from this:
To this:
I'm telling ya folks, there's soming special happening here...
In the latest article from Truthout.org by Cindy Sheehan fires back at critics...
Hypocrites and Liars
By Cindy Sheehan
t r u t h o u t | Letter
Saturday 20 August 2005
Oh yes she did go there.The media are wrong. The people who have come out to Camp Casey to help coordinate the press and events with me are not putting words in my mouth, they are taking words out of my mouth. I have been known for sometime as a person who speaks the truth and speaks it strongly. I have always called a liar a liar and a hypocrite a hypocrite. Now I am urged to use softer language to appeal to a wider audience. Why do my friends at Camp Casey think they are there? Why did such a big movement occur from such a small action on August 6, 2005?
I haven't had much time to analyze the Camp Casey phenomena. I just read that I gave 250 interviews in less than a week's time. I believe it. I would go to bed with a raw throat every night. I got pretty tired of answering some questions, like: "What do you want to say to the President?" and "Do you really think he will meet with you?" However, since my mom has been sick I have had a chance to step back and ponder the flood gates that I opened in Crawford, Tx.
I just read an article posted today on LewRockwell.com by artist Robert Shetterly who painted my portrait. The article reminded me of something I said at the Veteran's for Peace Convention the night before I set out to Bush's ranch in my probable futile quest for the truth. This is what I said:
I got an email the other day and it said, "Cindy if you didn't use so much profanity ... there's people on the fence that get offended.
And you know what I said? "You know what? You know what, god damn it? How in the world is anybody still sitting on that fence?
If you fall on the side that is pro-George and pro-war, you get your ass over to Iraq, and take the place of somebody who wants to come home. And if you fall on the side that is against this war and against George Bush, stand up and speak out.
War Backers Set Up Camp Near Bush Ranch
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 2:57 a.m. ET
CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) -- A patriotic camp with a ''God Bless Our President!'' banner sprung up downtown Saturday, countering the anti-war demonstration started by a fallen soldier's mother two weeks ago near President Bush's ranch.
The camp is named ''Fort Qualls,'' in memory of Marine Lance Cpl. Louis Wayne Qualls, 20, who died in Iraq last fall.
''If I have to sacrifice my whole family for the sake of our country and world, other countries that want freedom, I'll do that,'' said the soldier's father, Gary Qualls, a friend of the local business owner who started the pro-Bush camp. He said his 16-year-old son now wants to enlist, and he supports that decision.
(evolution at work, taking stupidity out of the gene pool. The bogus Iraq war was conceived strictly at as Repug 2004 re-election ploy, has NOTHING to do with the "sake of our country and world", you ignorant sonofa . )
Qualls' frustration with the anti-war demonstrators erupted last week when he removed a cross bearing his son's name that was among hundreds the group had put up along the road to Bush's ranch.
Qualls called the protesters' views disrespectful to soldiers, and said he had to yank out two more crosses after protesters kept replacing them.
(asshole. What's disrespectful of the soldliers is wasting the lives of US forces in a bogus war. Being against the Repugs and the war is the most soldier-respectful position. The Repugs have abused the US forces and lives for their own domestic political ends. shrub has on the soldiers and the flag. THAT's disprectful. )
Cindy Sheehan, whose 24-year-old son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, died last year in Iraq, started the anti-war demonstration along the roadside on Aug. 6. ''Camp Casey'' has since grown to about 100 core participants, and hundreds more from across the nation have visited.
Sheehan vowed to remain there until Bush agreed to meet with her or until his monthlong vacation ended, but she flew to Los Angeles last week after her 74-year-old mother had a stroke. Her mother has some paralysis but is in good spirits, and if she improves, Sheehan may return to Texas in a few days, some demonstrators said.
In her absence, the rest of the group will keep camping out for the unlikely chance to question the president about the war that has claimed the lives of about 1,850 U.S. soldiers.
Bush has said he sympathizes with Sheehan but won't change his schedule to meet with her. She and other families met with Bush about two months after Casey Sheehan died, before she became a vocal opponent of the war.
Large counter-protests were held in a ditch near Sheehan's site a week after she arrived, and since then, a few Bush supporters have stood in the sun holding signs for several hours each day.
Bill Johnson, a local gift shop owner who created ''Fort Qualls,'' said he wanted to offer a larger, more convenient place for Bush supporters to gather.
He and others at ''Fort Qualls'' have asked for a debate with those at the Crawford Peace House, which is helping Sheehan.
It's unclear if that will happen. But a member of Gold Star Families for Peace, co-founded by Sheehan and comprised of relatives of fallen soldiers, said her group would not participate.
''We're asking for a meeting with the president, period,'' said Mic e DeFord, whose 37-year-old son, Sgt. David W. Johnson, was in the Army National Guard from Oregon when he was killed in Iraq last fall. ''We don't want to debate with people who don't understand our point of view.''
Jim...you must have flunked Political Science...because it seems your entire knowledge of the Iranian situation is based on that interview.
You don't know .
The Shah became the leader of Iran in 1941....it was he that allowed the Democratic Reform that allowed the ing Iranians to have fair elections in the first place. And he was following the path of his father.
That entire article neglects to mention the role that the Russians played in Iran after WWI until well after WWII, not to mention their alliance with the Russians after the Islamic revolution.
You don't seem to understand that nationalizing an industry like that is Socialism...
Put it this way....Iran's Oil industry has been nationalized for 25 years now...how's that working out for them?
They have 40% unemployment and you can be imprisoned for being a Christain...you can be executed for being gay...
Yeah that's a real great improvement...
I never figured you for an Islamofascist but I guess now we know...
I'll tell you what I said in the first place...you need to study the history of Iran and not just parrot the propaganda...
Oh...and hey...who was the first country Iran allied itself with after the Islamic revolution? Russia.
Who originally funded the PLO? Russia.
You think you know but you don't...and yeah...Eisenhower was a real Oil monger...that's why he went after all that Oil in Vietnam.
Check out the White Revolution....
Then tell me who the brutal and opressive regime is.
Or better yet...just go find someone from Iran and talk to them...and ask them under which situation they were better off....Shah or Islam...
It's a ing joke that every one calls the Shah's regime brutal compared to the regime that is running the country now.
ing learn some history.
Go look at what goes on in Iran now.
Last edited by whottt; 08-21-2005 at 04:21 AM.
Got to love the it's one or the other argument, I'm anti-bush and pro war mostly because is so ed up over their because of what we have done to the place it would be horrible to just pull everyone out. If she must know why her son had to die, it's because he swore an oath to follow the president of the United States, it doesn't say he needed to know why he had to go it just says he has to do it blindly, if people don't want to follow the pres., it's easy, it's called a dishonorable discharge.If you fall on the side that is pro-George and pro-war, you get your ass over to Iraq, and take the place of somebody who wants to come home. And if you fall on the side that is against this war and against George Bush, stand up and speak out.
Or better yet...how about if you are anti-war you shut the up and let the VOLUNTEERS fight their ing battle without you aiding and abetting the enemy...it's not like you are over there fighting, it is a VOLUNTEER military, and Casey RE-ENLISTED AFTER THE IRAQ WAR HAD STARTED...so shut the up and let those that want to fight for this country do so. No one is forcing you you to fight, you have no draft card to burn...so stick Vietnam up your commie ass and either go fight against the US military man to man instead of doing it on the soil they are defending and giving you the right to be a terrorist sympathizing s bag or STFU...those that VOLUNTARILY ENLIST in the Miltary do so with the full knowledge that they might be sent into to a war.
Last edited by whottt; 08-21-2005 at 05:02 AM.
So they think W understand their point of view?
And boutons...that was a nice article but it would have been better if you could have kept those turds you call thoughts out of the middle of it.
I noted you calling that patriotic man stupid....as well as his little boy...
And on their behalf I'd just like to say you.
You are one of those ing s bags that spit on US soldiers coming back from Vietnam...you just hide it well.
Point proved that you are an anti-American...just like 99% of the rest of the left.
Oh STFU with that stupid ass "aiding and abetting" crap you neocons love to spew. It is every American's right to speak out and nowhere in the cons ution does it say any American has to blindly be behind Dubya.
Get your head out of his ass and see the real world.
And the right is only "American" when they have a republican in office.
You were very un-American during the Clinton years just like 99.9% of conservatives are.
How does he hide it well if 99% of the left are anti-american? I'm gonna say that 99% of the left would be anti-you.I don't like emoticons.
These are kids that enlisted in the service. Yeah it is volunteer, but had they known what kind of quagmire they were getting into, 50% of them would never have enlisted.
It is NOT volunteer to go to Iraq...Big difference there pal.
You STFU you stupid piece of crap, you ing big man hiding behind a computer, sitting on your big fat white ass who is so easy to allow our young people go and die for NOTHING but big business.
You go enlist and fight if you are so quick to allow others to do so.
No, you are a pussy a pussy who lets others fight for you.
"commie ass"?? What a total loser you are to use that term to describe people that have a brain and speak out against the wrongs in the world.
Stop me if I am wrong, but last I checked. the Communists were not allowed to speak out against a wrong doing govt...so how can you equate a Commie with what we are doing????
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I made straight As in Political Science as well as History, so do not tell me anything about the Shah and the Pea regime.
The Soviets were involved with Iran because they are on their Southern border, you freaking numnuts and they needed access to the Gulf...it made perfect sense, you freaking moron.
Wrong!!The Shah became the leader of Iran in 1941....it was he that allowed the Democratic Reform that allowed the ing Iranians to have fair elections in the first place. And he was following the path of his father.
One of my best friends who is a DDS( we were in school together) grew up in Iran during the Shah's regime and since he was a Bahai, not a Muslim, his family was persecuted, arrested and killed. He escaped with his parents in 1972 and immigrated to the US because they had family here. In the 20 + yrs that I have known him, I have learned all about Iran's history and what it was like before the Shah and after the Shah. I was told horror stories that you can not even imagine....this is why I hated that freak. I know all about the Shah and his tyranny, so do not dare tell me anything different, you ing smug prick.
Call him up and talk to him. I will PM you his name and number....
LOL... Boutons calls out "shrub loving repugs" whose kids aren't enlisting, and then when he finds one who is, it's Nature weeding out stupid people.
I bet you wouldn't send that same sentiment to an actual soldier's family, would you, you ing coward?
Do the anti-war crowd a favor and keep your opinions to yourself.
And we now know from Cindy Sheehan that Casey re-enlisted because he felt he an obligation to help his comrades still in Iraq. A real hero.and Casey RE-ENLISTED AFTER THE IRAQ WAR HAD STARTED
Cindy wants to ask the President what ‘noble cause’ her son had to die for, not why her son died.
And that pussy Bush does not even have the balls to look her in the eye and sit down with her to answer her questions.
You know why??? Because he knows that he can not sell her the load of crap that he is peddling to the American people...he knows that she will see behind the curtain and expose the fraud that he is...that is why.
So, is going back to fight with his comrades not a noble cause?And we now know from Cindy Sheehan that Casey re-enlisted because he felt he an obligation to help his comrades still in Iraq. A real hero.
Cindy wants to ask the President what ‘noble cause’ her son had to die for, not why her son died.
Yes, because every dumb who opposes anything he does will go to Crawford and camp out until they get their five minutes of time with him.And that pussy Bush does not even have the balls to look her in the eye and sit down with her to answer her questions.
You know why???
The guy is running the free world, if he took time out of his day to meet with every one of us he wouldn't have time to run the country, or the civilized West.
Further, it's complete bull that she is expecting to meet with him, Bush already met with her once.
Tell you what, let's send Cindy and a few others go over to Afghanistan to talk with OBL about peace and no war. My bet is they won't go, because they don't hate war, they just hate GWB.
"Tell you what, let's send Cindy and a few others go over to Afghanistan to talk with OBL about peace and no war. My bet is they won't go, because they don't hate war, they just hate GWB."..............
Nah! Ya Think?
Yeah, the only part of the World that's free is the US.
Or did you mean he runs the free World because he does pretty much what ever he wants, no matter what the rest of the "free World" really want to do?
Oh yes, he must save the time so he can take a 2 hr bike stroll with Lance Armstrong. I am sure the two of them were discussing the world problems and came up with a lot of solutions.
1. He already met with her once.The biggest proof that Bush has this all wrong is the fact that he won't talk to her. Look at the growing number of people protesting him and the war. All he had to do was be human at the very beginning and this would have never come to this problem dissolved.
2. This isn't about her son, it's political grandstanding.
3. If he met with her, all the whacko nut jobs would be lining up one after another demanding the same.
Jim, they were meeting to talk about cancer research funding. The bike ride was just a different way of doing business, versus sitting across the table from one another.Oh yes, he must save the time so he can take a 2 hr bike stroll with Lance Armstrong. I am sure the two of them were discussing the world problems and came up with a lot of solutions.
I think the bike ride was a dangerous move for Bush.
Let's see, bike with Lance Armstrong or talk to some lady camping outside of your house. Which would you choose?
He met, hugged, and prayed with her and her family. That's a of a lot more than 95% of the families of troops killed in Iraq got. Sorry, I come from a military family, and have no sympathy for her only getting to meet with him for a short time.1. He didn't meet with her he meet with a group of people in one of his babble do-gooder load of crap speeches.
Again, I don't get the hate for the bike ride. Lance was there to meet with President Bush about increasing federal funding for cancer research. Bush likes to bike ride, Lance obviously does, so they chose to do so while talking cancer research.
How is this any different from say Reagan and Gorbachev going for a horseback ride on Ronald's ranch?
Oh yeah, because it's Bush and because some psycho thinks she's en led to something because her son CHOSE to go to Iraq (and I'm not trying to say people shouldn't feel compassion for her).
She wanted to know why we're over there, and Bush has given three speeches since then talking about Iraq and addressing her questions.
And deep down, I think if any of you who are calling out Bush are honest with yourselves, you already know that him meeting her won't solve a damn thing.
I mean the woman is grandstanding about dead troops when their families have asked her not to include their sons in her campaign, she's going off on wild rants about Palestine-Israel, and already distorted the whole shot gun incident last week (she said that they were being shot at - if a Texan was really shooting at you, you wouldn't be around to talk about it).
Why would the distortions and political rants end if Bush actually met with her? They wouldn't, and she'd twist and distort everything from what Bush said to how he scratched his nose in her presence.
I don't blame Bush one bit for not meeting with her, especially when she's got Michael Moore pulling her strings. The with that.
It's not an excuse. I'm tired of people like you whining that he should meet with her.
The best I can tell her whole beef is she wants to know why we're in Iraq. Bush has stated that about a billion times.
If she hasn't gotten the message by now, no amount of time with W. is going to change that.
Again, be honest with yourself, and you know damn well the only reason she wants to meet with him is propagandize the whole thing for the left.
Look at her statements since she got to Crawford. THere's nothing stable or rational about her comments.
Stop kissing HIS ASS!!!
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