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The CNN numbers are amazing to say the least in support of Obama from this debate.
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The CNN numbers are amazing to say the least in support of Obama from this debate.
C'mon guys. The Manu religion thread is over twice this size!
Depends on who's numbers you believe. Democrats have held a wide advantage but it has been narrowing (as it usually does although last time it was the GOP ahead) as the election comes up. Its slightly more than the national breakdown most pollsters use but the margin is so wide it doesn't matter.
McCain would have a chance if he had an advantage to work with but he doesn't. Less money, weaker ground game, and he's not winning the debates so what exactly does he have to work with?
CNN: 58-31 for Obama
The sizes of these debate threads show how weak they have been...C'mon guys. The Manu religion thread is over twice this size!
Yeah, Sean insHannity is all over McCain's ass saying how he kicked ass.,
So I guess for you....size matters?
You suck as a debate analyzer.
CNN Contributor David Gergen
John McCain had a very strong start in the first 30 minutes or so, and I thought that he was heading toward a debate victory — his first. But he veered off course in the middle as the conversation turned toward the negative quality of the campaign — and he became more and more the angry, older candidate, bringing back memories of the performance by Bob Dole back in 1996 that helped to doom his campaign. He also seemed to grow more tired over the course of the debate.
Barack Obama had a good first answer about his economic plan then seemed flat for the rest of the first half hour. But then things picked up for him. During the assaults by McCain, he kept his cool — he never took the bait (rumors were heavy before the debate that McCain would try to goad him into losing his steadiness). Coming out of that second half hour, Obama became much stronger in the last third of the debate, scoring extremely well on health care, education, abortion, and the Supreme Court.
McCain likely helped himself with his base tonight, but I doubt that he helped himself much with undecided voters.
Overall, I would score Obama at an A minus for the night, and McCain at a B plus.
It appears that Obama will come out of these debates with a general public perception that he has won three in a row.
PS: A hearty salute to tonight's moderator, Bob Schieffer, he deserves an A plus.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Nate Silver on 538 responds to you!
11:15 EDT: [Nate] I consider John King to be among most astute commentators out there, but he's a little bit out of line in critiquing his own poll, which he's said is skewed toward Democrats (the sample was something like D40, R30). It's skewed toward Democrats because America is skewed toward Democrats! The party ID split in the country right now is very close to 40/30. There's no doubt that Obama is going to find it a little bit easier to win these post-debate polls, simply because he has more support to begin with. But when he's winning every poll and every focus group by 2:1 margins, there are no excuses for McCain ... he's winning his base and just about nobody else.
11:04 EDT: [Nate] MediaCurves independents: Obama 60, McCain 30.
11:02 EDT: [Nate] CNN poll from the tee-vee: Obama 58, McCain 31.
11:00 EDT: [Nate] CBS undecideds: Obama 53, McCain 22.
Also, out of that CNN poll Obama is imporantly winning those independents by around 20%. Thats substantial because even if you want to make the breakdown of the poll 30 dem 30 rep 40 ind Obama still crushes McCain.
Man, I really think the Bob Dole death rattle comments are going to come spewing forward in the last few weeks of this race.
Economy is in a recession which favors Obama. McCain isn't articulate enough to turn the tables. Money, ground game, etc... mean next to nothing IMO.
McCain seemed a bit flustered and anxious in comparison to Obama. Little things like this seem to make all the difference amongst the American people. Obama has consistently come across as more Presidential, more calm, more cool, and more level headed. I just didn't see anything in this debate that would make me believe the state of the race will change one way or the other.
The nation is roughly 50-40 for Obama right now. It will likely close a few points as it always does, but I expect Obama to end up with around a 5-6% pt victory in November.
It will be very interesting to see what kind of bump McCaing gains out of tonight. Or will he get a bump at all?
Soledad!!
I doubt he gets a bump. In fact I'm 99% sure he doesn't get a bump considering the polls and focus groups are saying he lost.
How did the Luntz Fox focus group go?
With the snap polls giving Obama a 2:1 edge it's hard to think McC will get any bump.
And Joe, I too think Soledad is extremely good looking.
I should have just left it at calm....
I'd bump it!!
No bump? Then he must have done worse than I think he did.
Well Pat Buchanan is getting ready to come on MSNBC with in the tank Keith Olberman. Is it live? I'm buzzin' and I like Buchanan's views. I don't know what it is...but I like the guy.
I'm also getting ready to eat some all American bi-partisan chili dogs to add some toughness to my six-pack. And you don't have to be a plumber to lay that pipe baby!!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
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