Slavery Reparations in congress

[whottt]

Whott you are just sad dude. Really ing sad.

You are unashamedly trying to argue the case that whites had it as bad as blacks during times of slavery.

Calling you an idiot or any other name would be pointless because you know exactly what you are doing.


Whott.... this is just stupid dude.


What the ?


I mean are you even ing serious?



This must be a joke.

You are the joke, you are "unashamedly" saying something is owed, an inequality exists, on the basis of skin color, and you are defending those lines, for a capitalistic gain.

That is the mind of an enslaver.


Minority, majority, black, white, brown...if you are drawing lines, you are the bigot. There are two types of people in this world, those that draw those lines, and those that don't, and those that draw them are behind every incidence of slavery, subjugation, etc. in the history of this planet.


As long as line are drawn, inequality will exist. The only way to remove it is to stop drawing the lines. A minority drawing it to his own benefit is every bit the bigot that a majority is when he does it.



Stop drawing lines.

[Creepn]

Ya Whott, I guess you forgot to read this part I wrote?

You know what, don't even apologize just to African Americans. American should apologize or commerate slavery as a whole.

Understand what that means? Slavery altogether.

But nope, you try to justify the harshness of African American slavery by saying "oh everybody else were slaves". That's not gonna work for me. It's better to be the miniority slave race AND its a ava lot better not to be the race that's ins utionalized into slavery.

If there were white slaves then ok go ahead and cancel out the few black slaves then. Whats left? Still a ava lot more black slaves that are being whipped.

Oh other countries delved into slavery? Ya thats bad, but thats their history and their issue. My history is with the United States of America and we all live with the repercussions of slavery up to this very day. Especially the African Americans, ESPECIALLY the African Americans. So the mere fact that slavery effected them to this very day, from centuries, goes to show the acrimonius and perverse magnitude of the enslavements of African Americans.

For that Whott, they deserve an apology.

[tim_duncan_fan]

By the way...I am all for the apology if you guys think it will make it better...

I'm going to get a big laugh if Barrack Obama is the one that delivers it.


Since near as I can tell, Barrack Obama has a slaveowner factor of like 4, and probably not an ounce of slaves blood in him...but hey he's got the right skin color, right stupid ing bigots?


His American blood is white, it's Cheney's blood in fact. Since white = slaver owners, Barrack's got it.

His black blood is pure African, which he means likely has the blood of those that enslaved their felllow Africans for financial gain flowing through it.

The fact that it is muslim African blood, exponentially increases this likelyhood, not only the blood of the enslavers, but also that of those that exported them out of Africa.


Oh yeah, he's also President of the United States, the country that bigoted idiots everywhere think is where white people invented slavery.


He definitely should be the one making the apology...


And he's got absolutely no finger to point at anyone and call them an enslaver or a slaver owner.


You guys can't get past skin color, like every other bigot in history, so I'll doubt you'll agree with my perspective, even though it's the exact same one you are using to fill this thread with stupidity and ignorance.

Dude, reparations or some bull apology I'm not even talking about that right now. I'm talking about this bull :

YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY WHITES HAD IT AS BAD AS BLACKS DURING TIMES OF SLAVERY.



This is called "rivisionist's history" bull .

[Blake]

Creepn and Idiot...I can't tell you how ing awesome it is that you want to discount white slaves on the basis of the fact that they were a minority. That is so ing classic it isn't even funny.

I'm still waiting for the movie White Roots which shows Black masters whipping their honkey slaves.

What you did, minimizing the whites slaves on the basis of the fact that they were fewer of them, is exactly what slaveholders did to justify slavery.

what were some of the laws regarding White slaves compared to Black slaves?

And wrong again btw, Blake, there were white slaves right up until the emancipation proclamation. You are frankly just too stupid to understand how it was done, and too stupid to understand why it is important.

where did I say there weren't? I said 'end of Civil War' which is 1865. the EP was 1863.

I'm starting to think you are just trolling this thread.

Compare and contrast Negro slave laws to White slave laws.

More importantly, you overlook the fact that it was the Africans themselves that first sold their brethren into slavery, you over look the muslims that first made exporting captured slaves a commercial enterprise, you overlook the Spanish being the first, most prolific, longest tenured, and last to quit, the slave trade in this hemisphere.

naw, I'm not overlooking that.

Compare and contrast Negro slave laws to White slave laws.

You overlook that America was born out of British Colony...that the founding Fathers of this country were in fact, British citizens, and that ins utionalized slavery occurred under British rule and was already entrenched in this country for centuries before it's official birthdate.

naw, I made reference to the British instigating and dropping off the indentured servants/white slaves for 170+ years.

Compare and contrast Negro slave laws to White slave laws.

You also overlook the fact that white women were bought and sold to the Cherokees, as slaves. Among many others.

has nothing to do with the American government and reparations.

You overlook the fact that the Azteks in addition to the disease inflicted upon them by the Spaniards, were virtually exterminated by the Spaniards because every ing Native American tribe that had ever heard of them, hated htem, because they subjugated and enslaved just about any and all tribes they encountered.

has nothing to do with the American government and reparations.

You over look that in the course reparations, it is very likely that the blacks themselves would have slaveowners blood in them, and many whites knowningly and unknowingly have the blood of slaves(African and White) flowing in their veins.

naw, I'm not overlooking that. It's why I'm glad there is a commission set forth that is looking into difficult issues such as that.

So these reparations will likely be made, entirely on the basis of the color of skin, and that is racism, that is the essence of it.

The reparations are being discussed and researched and likely be made mostly on the color of skin because of the racist laws that were condoned by the US.

And it is the way your mind works, which is why I have absolutely no doubt what you would have been 200 years ago, since you are incapable of a non-discriminatory view, no matter which side you are on.

What would I have been 200 years ago?

Are you suggesting that if I am for reparations of some sort today that I would be a slave owner 200 years ago?

I'm grasping the way your mind works.

The whites are guilty because of the color of their skin, and the blacks are deserving of reparations because of the color of theirs. Complete and total ignorance on your part...the same ignorance that was used to justify pretty much every incidence of racial bigotry in the history of mankind.

Compare and contrast Negro slave laws to White slave laws.

[Winehole23]

Dallas County Commissioners approve reparations:

The Dallas County Commissioners Court declared Tuesday that African-Americans deserve reparations for slavery, even though most commissioners didn’t seem to know that they were doing so.


The issue arose in a resolution written by John Wiley Price, the county’s only black commissioner. Described only as a “Juneteenth Resolution,” it was approved unanimously.


Other commissioners admitted after their meeting Tuesday that they hadn’t read the do ent before voting for it.


Commissioner Mike Cantrell, the court’s lone Republican, later changed his vote to an abstention.


“The reason why I didn’t abstain this morning is that I had not received a copy of the resolution,” he said.


None of the other commissioners changed their votes, meaning the resolution remains the county’s official position. It is, however, a nonbinding resolution, and no tax money will change hands as a result of its passage.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro...eparations.ece

[Winehole23]

Adolph Reed, perhaps because he is hard left, writes very clear-headedly about race:

What strikes me as most incomprehensible about the reparations movement is its complete disregard for the simplest, most mundanely pragmatic question about any political mobilization: How can we imagine building a political force that would enable us to prevail on this issue?


But the question ultimately does not arise because reparations talk is rooted in a different kind of politics, a politics of elite-brokerage and entreaty to the ruling class and its official conscience, the philanthropic foundations, for racial side-payments. “Until America’s white ruling class accepts the fact that the book never closes on massive unredressed social wrongs, America can have no future as one people,” Robinson writes. Lest there be any doubt about the limited social vision that makes such an entreaty plausible, he brushes away the deepest foundations of American inequality: “Lamentably, there will always be poverty.” His beef is that black Americans are statistically overrepresented at the bottom. This is a protest politics that depends on the good will of those who hold power. By definition, it is not equipped to challenge existing relations of power and distribution other than marginally, with token gestures.

https://nonsite.org/editorial/the-ca...st-reparations

[Winehole23]

We are in one of those rare moments in American history—like the 1880s and 1890s and the Great Depression—when common cir stances of economic and social insecurity have strengthened the potential for building broad solidarity across race, gender, and other iden ies around shared concerns of daily life. These are concerns that only the minority of comfortable and well-off can dismiss in favor of monuments and apologies and a politics of psychobabble, concerns like access to quality health care, the right to a decent and dignified livelihood, affordable housing, quality education for all. They can be pursued effectively only by struggling to unite a wide section of the American population that is denied those essential social benefits or lives in fear of losing them. Isn’t it interesting that at such a moment the corporate-dominated, opinion-shaping media discover and project a demand for racially defined reparations that cuts precisely against building such solidarity?

[Winehole23]

Per contra, William Darity, Jr.

Eligibility for reparations should have two criteria. First, individuals
would have to establish that they are indeed descendants of persons formerly
enslaved in the United States. Second, individuals would have to establish
that at least 10 years prior to the adoption of a reparations program they
self-identified as ‘‘black,’’ ‘‘African American,’’ ‘‘Negro,’’ or ‘‘colored.’’ This
would preclude persons who have lived as white, thereby benefiting from
white privilege, suddenly claiming a black iden y to access reparations
(Darity and Frank, 2003:327).

Reparations for African Americans are long, long overdue—more than a
century overdue. The political prospects for payment still seem distant, but
such a payment is both just and necessary as a mechanism to close the
persistent racial gaps that exist in the United States. Now the U.S. public has
to be convinced of the correctness of this cause and support the appropriate
action—action that will reverse Andrew Johnnson’s abrogation of the
promise of ‘‘forty acres and a mule.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_21st_Century

[Trill Clinton]

slavery to jim crow to segregation to redlining to war on drugs to mass incarceration....its time and long overdue. cut the check.

[CosmicCowboy]

slavery to jim crow to segregation to redlining to war on drugs to mass incarceration....its time and long overdue. cut the check.

How big a check do you want?

[Winehole23]

Mickey Avalon he ain't, but this is somewhat on brand

[Winehole23]

^^^ guy is a Quillette contributor

[Chris]

slavery to jim crow to segregation to redlining to war on drugs to mass incarceration....its time and long overdue. cut the check.

Cool....me first tho : )

[Spurtacular]

cuck Blake getting ahead of the curve on this one.

[Winehole23]

Wypipo putting themselves at the center of the reparations debate is peak wypipo.

Are you descended from slaves, Chris?

Tell us about the stigma and hardship that comes with that.

[Winehole23]

Penultimate peak wypipo: suggesting reparations be paid to descendants of slave owners.