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White slave owners would kill any slaves who were reading books or trying to learn. They kept them ignorant on purpose to control them.
I was talking about selective breeding in the USA with the slaves.
American slave owners brought the european traditions. Horse and dog breeding practices were well established and understood by the time of slavery in america. Slave owners did the same thing with their slaves.
The biggest strongest males were valued and were worth more money. Their children were worth more money.
Females that were strong and fertile were worth more money, also.
White slave owners would kill any slaves who were reading books or trying to learn. They kept them ignorant on purpose to control them.
exactly! Each of us just have our strengths and weaknesses in certain things, and it's nothing to be ashamed of.
Have you not left your house in 50 years. Whites are ing blacks, Blacks ing whites, asians ing mexicans....... The top golfer is half black half philipino. There is no breeding.
People are ing who they want. It's society who chooses who they want to suceed!
I've read about it. Sad but true. But Europeans also introduced a lot of their genes also onto the slave population.
That's the case now, but back then things were a lot different. Same thing how women have slowly but surely gotten more freedoms and rights as we progress for the better.
I'm telling you mother ers blacks are not better athletes! Nor do I think any race is better at anything over another race. You wanna talk about why a certain race does not have a chance in a certain feild, my ears are wide open. Don't tell me there is no such thing as reverse racism. It's alive in America, just look at football and basketball.
Does it really matter? I hate to admit it, but when it comes to fighting and conquering, whites have scoreboard on almost 3/4 of the native populations across the world. What could we do? We are just lucky whitey has had a change of heart over the last 150 years.
Martial arts is different. It depends on the fighter's skill, it doesn't matter what style he practices or what race they are. It doesn't matter how big and strong you are, a smaller, less athletic fighter can still win. So athleticism doesn't really matter as much when talking about martial arts.
There are overweight, 40 year old black belts that will kick my ass.
When it comes to white military dominance, how much of it can be attributed to intelligence?
Superior weapons, superior tactics, much better organization of government and military chain of command, etc...
Dude that is WRONG! There are like 3 black tennis players in the history of TENNIS that anyone talks about. Arthur Ashe and the Williams sister. There is one "black" golfer whose mom is philipino and he is not been determined as the best in the history books. Baseball is full of whites and Latinos. The true American sports are football and basketball. Seeing we are all here because of basketball because of this site I think we can agree the NBA is gaining ground in non black americans. Soccer has like one black star. Swimming...NONE. Hockey NONE.. Race horsing NONE... Bowling...WTF are you talking about? It's two sports in america you make your opinion on.
Last edited by jack sommerset; 10-05-2009 at 11:54 PM.
I think it's 50/50. You cannot send a very smart but physically weak dude, cause he will get his ass kicked regardless of his intelligence
It's all really irrelevant.
The point of the thread is black americans. It doesn't matter if we are all mixed.
The black americans, who are born physically strong and more athletic than other races, are a product of slavery.
It could be. It is well do ented that the Spanish used Basque warriors in the conquering of the Americas. Those dudes are known for their strength and power/athleticism. Same with the English. They used their biggest and baddest of warriors which were the descendants of the viking. If you were to conquer a nation back then...would you send your Steve Kerr's or your Brock Lesnar's?
Yeah, thats all I said.
Are you one of those conspiracy people who believe that egyptians were a black civilization?
military conquests have much more to do with superior military strategy and weapons/armaments than the physical strength of the soldiers.
No, sorry, they weren't black. Africa does not = black. Yes, there were blacks in egypt, even black pharoahs, but it was not a 'black civilization'
As Egypt reached the end, it became more of a 'mix' than any 1 race. However, primarily, Egypt was closer to a sumerian civilization than a nubian one.
The skin color in art work in tombs, coffins or sarco i, had nothing to do with a depiction of what the owner's skin color was in real life. They are symbolic. For instance, using the color black means the person is dead.
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/colors.htm
I've heard this conspiracy theory before and I can tell you with 100% certainty that it's not true.
Last edited by MiamiHeat; 10-06-2009 at 01:18 AM.
and I forgot to mention
The Moors weren't black, either.
Africa does not = black.
The Moors were arab.
I really am not going to waste my time showing you the proof. Go read about it yourself or you can continue your conspiracy theory. You are black, right? Only blacks who need a self-esteem boost buy into the revisionist bull propagated by other black afrocentrists.
The scientific community will tell you that Egyptians looked pretty much like what modern egyptians look like, and that the Moors were Arab. The only time sub-saharan africans (black) peoples were used by Moors as soldiers in Spain was in the 12th centruy. The Moors invaded Spain first, before they had sub-saharans. The Moors had already invaded Spain in the 8th century, and they were only arab.
I'm really not going to waste my time. It's a conspiracy theory. Modern science laughs at these conspiracies. "Whitey did it to steal our culture!"
(1) Arabs and Beduins conquered the Maghreb.
(2) Immediately after they crossed the Strait of Gibraltar and conquered Spain.
(3) South Saharan Africa (Mali, Shonghai) were conquered by the Moors AFTER they conquered Spain. The Moors WERE NOT the same people than Black Africans.
(4) There is only one record of Subsharan troops in Spain and it was in the 12th century, not in the 8th. The reaction of Spaniards to those strange people, both from Muslims and Christians alike, was noticeable, and that fired the beginning of the end of the Reconquist. Three centuries later Muslims were gone from Spain.
These are the Moors.
there is no reason to believe they were black in the first place. The Moors were a group of Berbers led by Arabs, from North Africa, and neither the Berbers, Arabs or French for that matter are black today. It's very likely the Arabs brought with them Negroid slaves, as they did everywhere, but how many there were of these is hard to estimate, and it is unreasonable to assume they were a dominant or major element. Negroes were generally not held in very high regard by the Arabs. The famous 14th century sociologist Ibn Khaldun, an Arab from an upper class Andalusian family, writes of the Negroes:
"The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and proximity to the animal stage. Other persons who accept the status of slave do so as a means of attaining high rank, or power, or wealth, as is the case with the Mameluke Turks in the East and with those Franks and Galicians who enter the service of the state [in Spain].
Ibn Khaldun as quoted in Bernard Lewis' book "Race and Colour in Islam".
Africa is home to indigenous Caucasoid peoples(one example Berbers), and has been for over 30,000 years. Sub-saharan peoples are mainly black, and that's what you must be thinking about, but don't make the mistake of saying africa = black, because it's false
Last edited by MiamiHeat; 10-06-2009 at 02:05 AM.
He's not black.
I pegged you correctly without even knowing you. You are black.
Big surprise
Only blacks who need a self-esteem boost like to practice in afrocentrism and claim a conspiracy theory. It really is sad. I have met people like you and have wasted my time to show them the evidence that they are wrong...
She's not black, either.
By the way,
even IF everyone just sat back and didn't correct you, let you believe that egyptians/moors were black...
that still doesn't have anything to do with you. American blacks are descendants of western africa. Nothing to do with egypt or the moors.
Sorry.
Did they forget to tell you that part?
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