Quick creationists! Come up with something!

[mouse]

OK, what are their calculations compared to those of the supporters of evolution?

Let me get back to you my mom just left and you talk about debating someone she is the master.

I need a BC powder.....

[mouse]

I knew this thread would end up full of win!

For those who think evolution is fake, or whatever:

Do you believe in so-called "micro-evolution"? If so, where do you draw the line on evolution? Like, can species change, but genus can't? Or maybe family? Where's the line?

Micro evolution is real. you can get a Liger with a tiger and lion, you can get a horse and zebra to make strange you can get a bird to make a strange bird as long as the species stays within its own kind your ok.

I don't think the creationist dispute micro evolution. in fact the atheist use micro evolution to sneak in macro evolution. you don't get a dog from a turtle you don't get a monkey from a woodpecker. so it's hard for me to believe that there are still people in this topic that actually believe they came from molted rocks.

[mouse]

You're using the same tactic you do in the 9/11 threads, post a crapload of links, pictures and videos hoping something something sticks -- but you never give any positive support to your own theory, if you even have one.

So then tell me when I am wrong, I will say your right and then we can continue. It's Chumps way or the highway?

You never told me about the moon drifting further from the earth each year, how does that fit in your 4 Billion year old theory?

[mouse]

The Dead Sea:
The Dead Sea is in Israel. It is receives fresh water from the Sea of Galilee via the Jordan River. The Dead Sea has a very high salt content. Even so, it continues to get saltier since it has no outlet other than by evaporation. Scientists have measured the amount of salt added each year by the Jordan River; and they have also calculated the amount of salt in the Dead Sea. From these it is possible to estimate how long this process has been going on for. Assuming a constant rate of salt/water flow, and a zero salt level at the beginning, then the age of the Dead Sea is only 13,000 year old.

[mouse]

The San Andreas Fault is one of the most active faults in the North America. It runs into the Pacific Ocean at Tomales Bay, just east of Pt. Reyes, about 30 miles north of San Francisco. It is said to move from 1/2 to 2 inches per year. 85 How long has it been moving for? The answer varies greatly. Some say it has moved for tens of miles, and others say perhaps hundreds. The evidence is highly questionable.86 There are a few granite outcrops that hint that it may have moved 12,000 feet;87 however this too is questionable since the origin of granite itself is uncertain. Some geologists believe most granites are igneous while others believe the majority are metamorphic. 88 If the granite referred to above is of volcanic origin, then it could have come straight up out of the ground.

One thing that appears certain is that there is much disagreement with regard to how long this fault has been active. Looking at a geology map of the Pt. Reyes area, one may note that there are a few features that suggest that the fault has not been moving very long. These are: Sand Point, Tom's Point, and Lagunitas Creek. 89 The fault crosses each of these and yet none of them appear to be offset at all. This evidence suggests that this fault is quite young -- on the order of a few thousand years old. See also Continental Drift.

[Blake]

And proud of it! who hasn't?

me in debate threads

Do you tell your Mother you masturbate while watching Hanna Montana?

I dont do that. why would you even conjure up that thought?

Trust me I rather people know I can admit I lied like we all do in our lives then to try and come across like I am the only human on earth who has never lied and only tells the truth like you claim to.

you lie in these debate threads. you twist things around and put them out there as truth.

so which is it going to be Blake. your going to admit you have lied also , or are you going to again make a fool of yourself and say you have never lied?

I'd be lying if I said you were brilliant.

Either way your foot will surely end up deep in that nasty man chowder dripping hole you call a mouth.

nope. I don't purposely tell non-truths in these types of threads like you.

Feel free to dig up my posts to try to burn me.......but you won't be able to.

You lose again.

[Blake]

We on the message board. Everyone is watching your little tantrum.

you really got his goat.

[Blake]

you lost your goat on your own

[Blake]

I won't I can argue with that, and by doing so you can see I know facts for lies,
I would only wish you did also.

I can see you exchange facts for lies.

I would only wish you didn't.

[mouse]

I don't purposely tell non-truths in these types of threads like you.

Feel free to dig up my posts to try to burn me.......but you won't be able to.

You lose again.

Didn't you once say your not Gay? thats lie #1 right there!

[mouse]

you twist things around and put them out there as truth.
.

Isn't that the right wing way?

[mouse]

I can see you exchange facts for lies.

I would only wish you didn't.

Your walking on water act is getting old can't you just go and heal the blind or turn water into wine? Your not adding to this debate.

[mouse]

me in debate threads

I hate to break it to you brah but in a debate thread someone has to be lying if not then both sides are right and how can that be?

It must be so cool to be Blake the master of every debate a man who never lies your so much of a saint I almost want to touch the hem of your garment please go to the next ST gtg. I want to be able to tell my grand kids I once touched a living God, the man they call Blake, the purist human on planet earth.

[mouse]

The s s of living mollusks have been dated using the carbon 14 method, only to find that the method gave it a date as having been dead for 23,000 years

[mouse]

Volcanic ash has also been known to give dates much older than they actually were .

Lava flows at Mt Ngauruhoe, New Zealand gave erroneous dates (from K-Ar analyses) ranging from <0.27 to 3.5 (± 0.2) million years old. These rocks were "observed to have cooled from lavas 25-50 years ago".("Radioactive ‘dating’ failure: Recent New Zealand lava flows yield ‘ages’ of millions of years" by Andrew Snelling published in: Creation Ex Nihilo 22(1):18-21 December 1999 - February 2000)

The equipment was checked and the samples were run again to exclude the possibility of lab error but similar results were obtained.("Radioactive ‘dating’ failure: Recent New Zealand lava flows yield ‘ages’ of millions of years" by Andrew Snelling published in: Creation Ex Nihilo 22(1):18-21 December 1999 - February 2000)

Because the actual age of these rocks is known to be less than 50 years old, it is clear that these K-Ar ‘ages’ are due to ‘excess’ argon which was inherited from the magma source area deep in the earth.("Radioactive ‘dating’ failure: Recent New Zealand lava flows yield ‘ages’ of millions of years" by Andrew Snelling published in: Creation Ex Nihilo 22(1):18-21 December 1999 - February 2000)

See also the video: Mount St. Helens: Explosive Evidence for Catastrophe Dr. Steve Austin

[mouse]

We are often taught that it takes millions of years for an animal to fossilize.
Just because something is 'fossilized' does not mean that it is millions (or even thousands) of years old. When the conditions and materials are right, a bone can become filled with minerals fairly quickly ... Researchers have found that chicken bones and wood can be replaced with minerals in just five to ten years"



Here is a picture of a clock embedded in rock. Clocks have not been around for millions of years, so it is easy to see that fossils do not always take long periods of time to form.
Did it take millions of years for this to fossilize?
No, of course not.

[mouse]

I don't purposely tell non-truths in these types of threads like you.

Feel free to dig up my posts to try to burn me..

You lecture others on telling the truth then you make fake quotes? You proved to be a lier!

[ChumpDumper]

So then tell me when I am wrong, I will say your right and then we can continue. It's Chumps way or the highway?

I'll basically give information that explains or contradicts whatever you post, and you will pretend you never posted it in the first place.

You never told me about the moon drifting further from the earth each year, how does that fit in your 4 Billion year old theory?

Centrifugal force explains that no matter what the age.

Now you can pretend you never posted about the moon.

[LnGrrrR]

Micro evolution is real. you can get a Liger with a tiger and lion, you can get a horse and zebra to make strange you can get a bird to make a strange bird as long as the species stays within its own kind your ok.

I don't think the creationist dispute micro evolution. in fact the atheist use micro evolution to sneak in macro evolution. you don't get a dog from a turtle you don't get a monkey from a woodpecker. so it's hard for me to believe that there are still people in this topic that actually believe they came from molted rocks.

Ok, so where is the stopping point? I mean, if micro evolution is true, then what explicitly stops an animal from continuously evolving over millions of years, until it looks nothing like the original animal? Where does evolution stop?

[Shastafarian]

Ok, so where is the stopping point? I mean, if micro evolution is true, then what explicitly stops an animal from continuously evolving over millions of years, until it looks nothing like the original animal? Where does evolution stop?

Obviously it stops when the superior beings want it to stop. Duh!

[Wild Cobra]

Volcanic ash has also been known to give dates much older than they actually were .

Lava flows at Mt Ngauruhoe, New Zealand gave erroneous dates (from K-Ar analyses) ranging from <0.27 to 3.5 (± 0.2) million years old. These rocks were "observed to have cooled from lavas 25-50 years ago".("Radioactive ‘dating’ failure: Recent New Zealand lava flows yield ‘ages’ of millions of years" by Andrew Snelling published in: Creation Ex Nihilo 22(1):18-21 December 1999 - February 2000)

The equipment was checked and the samples were run again to exclude the possibility of lab error but similar results were obtained.("Radioactive ‘dating’ failure: Recent New Zealand lava flows yield ‘ages’ of millions of years" by Andrew Snelling published in: Creation Ex Nihilo 22(1):18-21 December 1999 - February 2000)

Because the actual age of these rocks is known to be less than 50 years old, it is clear that these K-Ar ‘ages’ are due to ‘excess’ argon which was inherited from the magma source area deep in the earth.("Radioactive ‘dating’ failure: Recent New Zealand lava flows yield ‘ages’ of millions of years" by Andrew Snelling published in: Creation Ex Nihilo 22(1):18-21 December 1999 - February 2000)

See also the video: Mount St. Helens: Explosive Evidence for Catastrophe Dr. Steve Austin

Funny how you keep citing science that is otside the norm, so you cannot expect to get the same results.

That carbon 14 cartoon is pathetic. It shows that people don't understand what they are trying to disprove! Nobody used 14C for very old specimens.

The s s of living mollusks have been dated using the carbon 14 method, only to find that the method gave it a date as having been dead for 23,000 years

If you don't understand why this is the expected results, you have no business arguing these points.

[Blake]

Didn't you once say your not Gay? thats lie #1 right there!

no, you are lying again.

[Blake]

Isn't that the right wing way?

are you saying you are right wing now?

[Blake]

Your walking on water act is getting old can't you just go and heal the blind or turn water into wine? Your not adding to this debate.

your lies subtract from debates like this

[Blake]

I hate to break it to you brah but in a debate thread someone has to be lying if not then both sides are right and how can that be?

If you post something that you believe to be true, it's not lying.

You have twisted facts around on purpose. You are a proven liar.

It must be so cool to be Blake the master of every debate a man who never lies your so much of a saint I almost want to touch the hem of your garment please go to the next ST gtg. I want to be able to tell my grand kids I once touched a living God, the man they call Blake, the purist human on planet earth.

you are lying again.