M. Obama vacation-30 rms at 5 star hotel

[CosmicCowboy]

hey Cosmic,

Oh off pissant. I already answered multiple times why I thought it was interesting.

[Wild Cobra]

I agree. Now, do you or do you not think Cosmic's race baiting takes away from the original argument of this thread??

More...

Take away from the original argument? No. Facts are that she went there, and it is fair to assume and debate possibilities.

I only agree that it is race baiting because that is how political correctness treats it.

[CosmicCowboy]

so you're saying he wasn't race baiting?

I was progressive baiting. We have already established that race influences our thoughts, perceptions, and actions.

[ChumpDumper]

You accuse me us using a "straw man" in virtually every post and you clearly don't understand what a straw man is.

FYI, a Straw man is when:

#1 Person A has position X.
#2 Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
#3 Person B attacks position Y.
#4 Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.

That clearly doesn't apply here.

Of course it does. You are so desperate to distract from your race baiting, you don't even realize how many straw men you have constructed.

It's really pretty pathetic. You need to go back and look at your posts. Every time I call you out for making a straw man, it's because you made a straw man.

Case it point:

So shouldn't she be able to teach/show her daughter black world history?

That is a straw man. That is the "position Y" you presented.

I can't believe you have become such a bald-faced liar in this thread.

So I have an opinion. I think her interest in black world history influenced her decision on her vacation destination.

SO WHY DOES CHUMPDUMPER THINK MIC E OBAMA CHOSE ALHAMBRA CASTLE FOR HER VACATION DESTINATION?

FOR ONCE GIVE A DIRECT ANSWER TO A DIRECT QUESTION.

I already said or intimated this several times, I think it was for the same reason most of the 2,000,000 other people visit Alhambra: it's quite scenic.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Oh off pissant. I already answered multiple times why I thought it was interesting.

oh I'm sorry, could you please repeat it? 'cause I can't seem to find it anywhere in this thread

[ChumpDumper]

Oh off pissant. I already answered multiple times why I thought it was interesting.

Not really.

For once give a direct answer to a direct question.

[Wild Cobra]

so you're saying he wasn't race baiting?

See, here we are on this instead of the topic.

I don't think race baiting was intentional. When the left does it, it normally is intentional. Making race the focus for this nations past transgressions, or using it as an excuse to justify something.

Can you say with certainty that bringing known facts is race baiting? As long as that is the perception, we will never have equality between our races.

[ChumpDumper]

see, here we are on this instead of the tooic.

I don't think race baiting was intentional. When the left does it, it normally is intentional. Making race the focus for this nations past transgressions, or using it as an excuse to justify something.

Can you say with certainty that bringing known facts is race baiting? As long as that is the perception, we will never have equality between our races.

Damn, this is stupid. Even for you.

If CC's race baiting was unintentional, then it simply indicates that the influence of race on his thinking runs deep into his psyche, as deep or deeper than the influence he claims people like Obama must have, which is worth discussion in itself.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I was progressive baiting. We have already established that race influences our thoughts, perceptions, and actions.

I can honestly say that I've never, EVER visited a tourist site on any country I've been to on the bases of race. EVER. So, no, race doesn't influence everybody in the way you seem to think. It sure does seem to in your case though.

[CosmicCowboy]

Of course it does. You are so desperate to distract from your race baiting, you don't even realize how many straw men you have constructed.

It's really pretty pathetic. You need to go back and look at your posts. Every time I call you out for making a straw man, it's because you made a straw man.

Case it point:

That is a straw man. That is the "position Y" you presented.

Bull . Try to follow here. I'm A and I presented both X AND Y.

You argued X and then ran like a little from Y.

I already said this several times, I think it was for the same reason most of the 2,000,000 other people visit Alhambra: it's quite scenic.

OK...we agree to disagree. Just a total random scenic choice? uhhhhh OK.

[George Gervin's Afro]

See, here we are on this instead of the topic.

I don't think race baiting was intentional. When the left does it, it normally is intentional. Making race the focus for this nations past transgressions, or using it as an excuse to justify something.

Can you say with certainty that bringing known facts is race baiting? As long as that is the perception, we will never have equality between our races.

Facts?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but cc acknowledged it was his opiniion. So by you're definition it was race baiting. Nice job proving your argument wrong

[Wild Cobra]

Bull . Try to follow here. I'm A and I presented both X AND Y.

You argued X and then ran like a little from Y.



OK...we agree to disagree. Just a total random scenic choice? uhhhhh OK.

Reasons like that's why I placed that pile of on IGNORE.

[ChumpDumper]

Bull . Try to follow here. I'm A and I presented both X AND Y.

You argued X and then ran like a little from Y.

You have to be a bit frenzied now. You don't even know you just admitted making the straw man.

If you really need your straw men flowcharted for you, you are as ignorant as you are dishonest.

OK...we agree to disagree. Just a total random scenic choice? uhhhhh OK.

It wasn't random. They were close by on the Spanish coast. It's like taking a vacation in Austin and making a side trip to see the Alamo.

Millions of people do it.

Give me a direct answer to this direct question:

Why do you think her reason for visiting Alhambra have to be racial?

[clambake]

the other bad thing in this thread is your supporting cast.

don't you wish they would go away, cowboy?

[ChumpDumper]

Reasons like that's why I placed that pile of on IGNORE.

How would you even know what that argument was if you can't read my posts?

[CosmicCowboy]

*sigh*

Try to follow here chump.

I will repeat it one more time...A straw man is when:

#1 Person A has position X.
#2 Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
#3 Person B attacks position Y.
#4 Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.

What you are calling a straw man is:

Person A has position X
Person B attacks position X
Person A also presents position Y
Person B runs like a little from position Y and yells straw man.
Person B doesn't know the definition of straw man.

[clambake]

actually, there is no argument in this thread.

the verdict's out.

[clambake]

and this continued back peddling is embarrassing.

[ChumpDumper]

You accuse me us using a "straw man" in virtually every post and you clearly don't understand what a straw man is.

FYI, a Straw man is when:

#1 Person A has position X.
#2 Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
#3 Person B attacks position Y.
#4 Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.

#1 ChumpDumper's position is that Obama did not necessarily visit Alhambra for racial reasons.

#2 CC presents the position that ChumpDumper is against Obama's teaching her daughter about black history.

#3 CC attacks the position he presented that ChumpDumper is against Obama's teaching her daughter about black history.

#4 CC claims ChumpDumper's position that Obama did not necessarily visit Alhambra for racial reasons is false/incorrect/flawed.

[ChumpDumper]

I can't believe I had to spell it out like that.

I have trouble believing you are that stupid, CC. After the past couple of days, it's simply easier to believe you are being dishonest.

[CosmicCowboy]

#1 ChumpDumper's position is that Obama did not necessarily visit Alhambra for racial reasons.

CC agrees that is Chumpdumpers right to have that opinion.

#2 CC presents the position that ChumpDumper is against Obama's teaching her daughter about black history.

CC has no idea what Chumpdumpers position on the direct question is because he ran like a little from the question and refused to answer it. Chumpdumper incorrectly whined strawman instead, showing his complete lack of understanding of the concept.

#3 CC attacks the position he presented that ChumpDumper is against Obama's teaching her daughter about black history.

Chumpdumper was too big of a pussy to answer the question so CC did no such thing.

#4 CC claims ChumpDumper's position that Obama did not necessarily visit Alhambra for racial reasons is false/incorrect/flawed.

CC specifically stated that CD was en led to his opinion just like CC was.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

ok, I'm going to extricate myself from this thread 'cause frankly, Cosmic is flinging so much bull around that I'm afraid I'll be neck deep in it if I don't.

Good luck people

[CosmicCowboy]

ok, I'm going to extricate myself from this thread 'cause frankly, Cosmic is flinging so much bull around that I'm afraid I'll be neck deep in it if I don't.

Good luck people

That's just overflow from your diaper pissant.

[ChumpDumper]

CC agrees that is Chumpdumpers right to have that opinion.

How magnanimous of you.

I wasn't asking for permission, I was describing a position in an argument.

CC has no idea what Chumpdumpers position on the direct question is because he ran like a little from the question and refused to answer it. Chumpdumper incorrectly whined strawman instead, showing his complete lack of understanding of the concept.

I didn't answer it because it was a straw man which had nothing to do with our original positions in the argument.

Chumpdumper was too big of a pussy to answer the question so CC did no such thing.

Yes, I didn't let you get away with your straw man argument. Making a straw man like that is the act of a pussy.

CC specifically stated that CD was en led to his opinion just like CC was.

Now you don't even know what a position in an argument is.

Maybe you are that stupid.

[CosmicCowboy]

Fail, Chump.

See previous definition of Straw Man.