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  1. #376
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    Worst week so far as far as finding "spots".

    Only game I feel good about is Arizona - 7.5 on MNF.

    So plus $1040 and will play 110 to win 100 with the Cards.

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    Really did expect more out of the Bills this season, , they are now getting clobbered by the lowly Jags.

    Chargers all beat up, looking like Antonio Gates might not play. Tempted to play the Raiders but they always scare me, no team has more stupid penalties than they do.
    Last edited by Avante; 10-25-2015 at 09:46 AM.

  2. #377
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    Who ya got Philly or Carolina

  3. #378
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    Who ya got Philly or Carolina
    As ya know your Panthers got destroyed in Philly last season losing 45-21, I think we'll see some pay back tonight. Sam Bradford vs that defense not good.

    But, I wouldn't be shocked if that Eagles D was the difference either.

    So slight lean towards Carolina, pretty much based on them being home with revenge.

    As far as Sunday night football goes.

    Panthers 4-4 at home. Talking SU.

    Philly on the road 11-12.

    So nothing there.
    Last edited by Avante; 10-25-2015 at 10:25 AM.

  4. #379
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    What are the odds of my two teams ...Niners/USC...looking as bad as they ever had (Niners) and as good as they have in a long long time (USC) on the same week? Both with new coachs.
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    Never seen a week with so many games with ????? attached to them from an ATS perspective. Weird!

  5. #380
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    the raiders won on the road coming off a bye

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    the raiders won on the road coming off a bye
    Ya don't get it slick. You look for spots. Every trend doesn't work every time ...got it. You have to also know that the Raiders had...Tim Brown. Yep..cat could fly and you don't just look at one game. It's ...how I did last season up 25,000 or this season up 65jk00.
    Sheesh...lots of rookies around here.

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    the raiders won on the road coming off a bye
    Didn't I tell you according to THE PLAYBOOK that was the play they recomeembed as THE play of the week?

    The magazine is 7-3 so far in 2015.

    I mentioned 5-1 in this "spot". I just can't go with a team that has as many penalties as they do, and you heard that mentioned, right?

    No Antonio Gates for Rivers today was huge.

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    Ya don't get it slick. You look for spots. Every trend doesn't work every time ...got it. You have to also know that the Raiders had...Tim Brown. Yep..cat could fly and you don't just look at one game. It's ...how I did last season up 25,000 or this season up 65jk00.
    Sheesh...lots of rookies around here.
    The Raiders are now 6-6ATS as RD's coming off a bye rookie. That's losing $$$$$.

    This is what so many of you rookies do, and it's ing comical. Ya don't masturbate over ..."one"...game, ya look at the history iinvolved. The Raiders are not a good road team, this is a well known fact, talking from an historical perspective. You don't ignore that...FACT...unless you're a rookie.

    Since 2012 they were 11-12-1 in that role ATS.
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    The Raiders are now 6-6ATS as RD's coming off a bye rookie. That's losing $$$$$.

    This is what so many of you rookies do, and it's ing comical. Ya don't masturbate over ..."one"...game, ya look at the history iinvolved. The Raiders are not a good road team, this is a well known fact, talking from an historical perspective. You don't ignore that...FACT...unlesss you're a rookie.
    Russel Wilson is terrible.

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    Russel Wilson is terrible.
    Then ya wonder why you get laughed at and treated like a re .

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    Then ya wonder why you get laughed at and treated like a re .
    You really don't want to know how your mom treats re s then.

  12. #387
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    The Raiders are now 6-6ATS as RD's coming off a bye rookie. That's losing $$$$$.

    This is what so many of you rookies do, and it's ing comical. Ya don't masturbate over ..."one"...game, ya look at the history iinvolved. The Raiders are not a good road team, this is a well known fact, talking from an historical perspective. You don't ignore that...FACT...unless you're a rookie.

    Since 2012 they were 11-12-1 in that role ATS.
    and you're looking up well over a decade of raiders data to get that 6-6 stat... what do the kerry collins/norv turner teams, or the aaron brooks/art s team, or the jamarcus russell/lane kiffin teams have to do with anything?

    trends are only useful to go back a certain amount of time... especially when you have coach/qb changes. if you give me a decade of pats stats, i'll listen, because belichik/brady probably do have tendencies where they're better or worse. but looking at the last 12 times the raiders were a road team coming off a bye? that goes back probably 20 years. who cares??

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    1. You really don't want to know how your mom treats re s then.
      translation

      Hey Avante, just who were the running backs who were also tracksters?

      Here ya go slick.

      110/400 hurdlers

      Tyrone Wheatley Michigan
      Hugh "The King" McElhenny Washington
      James Owens UCLA
      Paul Robinson Arizona
      Bobby Mitc Illinois***
      Todd Gurley Georgia

      Long Jumpers

      Johnny Hector Texas A&M
      Terry Metcalf Long Beach State
      "Jaguar" Jon Arnett
      Eric Metcalf Texas
      Gale Sayers Kansas
      Calvin Hill Yale
      Paul Warfield Ohio State***

      Sprinters

      Ollie Matson USF
      Glen Davis Army
      Herschel Walker Georgia
      Bob Hayes FAMU***
      Houston McTear Baker HS
      Robert Smith Ohio State
      Kelvin Bryant North Carolina
      Travis Williams ASU
      Stone Johnson Grambling
      Jamaal Charles Texas
      Michael Bennett Wisconsin
      Eric erson SMU
      Darin Nelson Stanford
      Cyril Pinder Illinois
      Javid Best Cal
      C.J.Spiller Clemson
      Curtis ey Texas A&M
      Warrick Dunn FSU
      Bo Jackson Auburn
      Trenton Jackson Illinois
      Napolean Kaufman Washington
      Khalfani Muhammad Cal
      Justin Fargas USC
      O.J.Simpson USC
      Trindon Holliday LSU
      Joe Delaney NWLa
      Buddy Young Illinois
      Marcus Dupree Oklahoma
      Dino Philyaw Oregon
      Lance Alworth Arkansas***
      Jeff Demps Florida
      Warren McVea Houston
      LaMichael James Oregon
      Andy Hopkins SFAustin
      Amos Marsh Oregon

      *** switched to wide receivers in the NFL

      Decathletes

      Jim Thorpe Carlisle
      John Henry Johnson ASU
      Milt Campbell Indiana

      Weightman

      Christian Okoye Azusa Pacific
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    and you're looking up well over a decade of raiders data to get that 6-6 stat... what do the kerry collins/norv turner teams, or the aaron brooks/art s team, or the jamarcus russell/lane kiffin teams have to do with anything?

    trends are only useful to go back a certain amount of time... especially when you have coach/qb changes. if you give me a decade of pats stats, i'll listen, because belichik/brady probably do have tendencies where they're better or worse. but looking at the last 12 times the raiders were a road team coming off a bye? that goes back probably 20 years. who cares??
    Dude, you have watched me win over 3000 right here do ented the last two seasons. Why not cool your stupidity, ok? I win because of those trends.stats, ok? Only a fool/idiot ignores them.

    Just last season the Raiders were 4-5 as a RD, they couldn't even beat Chicago on the road this season....ok? Don't be a rookie, ok guy? The Chargers are all beat up, so don't get goofy, alright? They still haven't bet a team with a winning record on the road in a long long time.

    On the road they have gone...

    2013..1-7
    2014...0-8
    2015...2-1

    Ok? That's 3-16.

  15. #390
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    the raiders were 3-13 last year and 3-3 this year. different teams

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    the raiders were 3-13 last year and 3-3 this year. different teams
    Well then how come they haven't won more than 8 games in a season in over a decade? Well? Different teams, right?

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    Well then how come they haven't won than 8 games in a seasn in over a decade? Well? Different teams, right?
    they raiders won 8 games in 2011 and 2010

    and keep in mind Al Davis was not only the owner, but the GM, lead scout, president, virtually every front office position you can think of. he was brilliant for most of his career, but once the gannon/brown/rice team broke apart he fell off a cliff and had the team in the dumps by constantly trying to fix the problem by overpaying free agents. deangelo hall. javon walker. tommy kelly. many others. the raiders of the last few years have been under a different regime. they've drafted a franchise QB. things have changed. only an idiot wouldn't see that

  18. #393
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    they raiders won 8 games in 2011 and 2010
    See that word....more?

    How come they haven't won more than 3 road games in any season in over a decade, well?

    Dude, they just happened to play a Chargers team with a a lot of injuries right now, you know it so don't try and act like it's anything more than that, ok?

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    you didn't type "more"... read what i quoted

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    oh now you went back and edited it after i responded to it. real slick

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    oh now you went back and edited it after i responded to it. real slick
    Stupid, it made no sense unless I did edit it and I did that the minute I saw the mistake, ok little man?

    The thing is the Raiders are not a good team, but they will be a lot better in a couple years, ok? They haven't done in a long long time, so to put my $$$$ on a team with the road record they have, no!

    They play in Pittsburgh in two weeks, lets see how they do there, ok? , they have Jets/Steelers/Vikes the next three weeks, not good!

  22. #397
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    Anyone here familiar with...GOOGLE? Well if ya are why not use it, ok? Actually take some time and research things, ok?

    We can start with Russell Wilson. Do any of you have a clue at all about just how special his three seasons and seven games have been in the history of the game? no ya don't, ya don't have a clue. Why not actually GOOGLE...

    Joe Montana
    Tom Brady
    Aaron Rodgers
    Peyton Manning
    Brett Favre

    ...and then compare what they did in three seasons and seven games vs what RW has done, ok? It's real obvious you haven't a clue and it makes ya look stupid, ok?

    Educate yourself little people, ok?

  23. #398
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    Ok, if we put 3 points for a road win, 2 for a home win, 1 for a road loss and 0 for a home loss, after seven weeks it looks like this. I do have the Cards beating the Ravens.

    1.NE 19
    2.Cincy 19
    3.Denver 19
    4.Atlanta 19
    5.Carolina 18
    6.GB 17
    7.Arizona 16
    8.Pitt 15
    9.NYJ 14
    10.NYG 14
    Last edited by Avante; 10-26-2015 at 02:00 AM.

  24. #399
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    the raiders have 2 road wins (6), 1 home win (2), 2 home losses (0), and 1 road loss (1)

    that should be 9 points. you've given them 11... then again they've also had a bye

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    the raiders have 2 road wins (6), 1 home win (2), 2 home losses (0), and 1 road loss (1)

    that should be 9 points. you've given them 11... then again they've also had a bye
    I left off the Colts, so I dumped all but the top 10.

    Raiders

    loss at home...0
    won at home....2
    won on road...3
    lost on road...1
    lost at home...0
    won on road..3

    That's..9


    So ya take that 9 and add the difference in points scored/given up.

    http://www.nfl.com/standings

    As we can see they are -9 which is close enought to - 10 to deduct 1, so they have a power ranting of 8. If they's been plus 20, they'd have an 11 power ranking, ya just deal with the first number. Now what if they are playing a team with a power rating of 24?

    I don't start using this system until after week 8, by then I have enought info. Yes tes, it's flawed but it's does give ya another tool in your box.
    Last edited by Avante; 10-26-2015 at 02:29 AM.

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