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People should be nicer!
did I say I did?but you believe a compromised, politicized Repug solicitor general?
the point of the quotation in #372 was to show it did not support your figure. until you can link a proper cite, you're standing on a threadbare assertion.
Yes they should
you ran with TX S.G. "debunking", "not supporting" the 20K number.
the 20k increase in abortions you cited as the probable result of closing PP, was nowhere to be found in the article you linked.
the quote I excerpted was the only reference to 20,000 in the article, and it doesn't support what you said.
no, I read that the TX avg of 80K abortions/year from Repugs closing the clinics (admitting privileges, surgery quality facilities) would jump by 20K abortions in TX alone.
Not all, any?, those clinics were PP clinics.
TX Repug SG was debunking the 20K number, defending TX Repug sociopathy, BACK IN JAN 15, 6 months before the PP sting.
Fetal tissue research has been with us a long time—and it's saved lives
Scientists have worked with it since the 1930s. The 1954 Nobel Prize in medicine was awarded for work with fetal tissue that led to developing a vaccine against polio. [...]
Some experimental treatments for spinal cord injury and macular degeneration involve transplanting fetal cells into patients. And European researchers recently began a study of putting fetal tissue into patients' brains to treat Parkinson's disease [...]
And there's no possibility that Planned Parenthood in particular is "making a profit" by charging minor, sub-$100 fees. It's not happening.
The effort here is an attempt to use the "ick" factor of lifesaving medical research to shut down a women's health organization, and if that just happens to profoundly disrupt that medical research or leave the public with the impression that such medical research is illegal or immoral, that is deemed an acceptable casualty.
Sawyer, July 20: In reality, $30-100 probably cons utes a loss for [Planned Parenthood]. The costs associated with collection, processing, storage, and inventory and records management for specimens are very high. Most hospitals will provide tissue blocks from surgical procedures (ones no longer needed for clinical purposes, and without iden y) for research, and cost recover for their time and effort in the range of $100-500 per case/block. In the realm of tissues for research $30-100 is completely reasonable and normal fee.
It is viciously cynical and deeply irresponsible—political malpractice would be the kindest way to put it, if you insist on terminology that hides the actual human lives that would be lost if such research were indeed shut down.
Time and time again religious opponents of abortion pipe up with fraudulent, manufactured propaganda efforts that would do great and long-lasting damage—that might outright kill people, in fact—if anyone were gullible enough to believe them, and we are supposed to believe that
God demands they peddle that fraud, because no other efforts have worked out and so He's keen on fraud so long as it's got His name attached.
The willing adoption of propaganda, of politically manufactured falsehoods that can easily be proven untrue but which are deemed so ideologically valuable that their fraudulent nature is deemed unimportant, is a dangerous way to run a nation. How is this not obvious? How is exposing such charlatanism not considered the highest badge of honor for a free press?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...8Daily+Kos%29#
absolutely could happen, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't happen. These videos are more then enough to cue an investigation.
An investigation for what?
What laws do you think were broken?
regarding fetal tissue specifically. And stop trolling.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/289g-2
They are alleging 42 US Code 289G-2. See above. OR WATCH THE VIDEOS AS THEY EXPLAIN IT.
Watched them.
Maybe you can explain what I missed.
So what do you call what your 'investigators' are doing? Are they soliciting alleged illegal activity too?It shall be unlawful for any person to solicit
That made no sense. That law is specific to fetal tissue.
you need me to explain to you want the CMP is alleging? Just did and I can't dumb it down an further.
Exactly soliciting it is as much a crime as selling it. At least part of the 'investigation' was sending in agents to solicit the language they've been waving their hands at. From what I understand the suppressed stuff includes what could be considered illegal surveillance.
Oh, the CMP.
Not any actual law enforcement agency.
Thanks.
I really don't think this is going to end pretty for our anti-abortion hopefuls. Vigilante investigations don't get the protections or authorities that a state sponsored one does.
I gotcha. Ya absolutely, they could end being convicted of that but I'm guessing that wouldn't be explored if PP was found guilty.
I think the govt. is already investigating whether CMP's sting journalism is illegal which from what I have read so far, in Cali, as long you're in a public place there is no expectation of privacy so it's legal. But I'm no lawyer, just think this all is fishy.
Several states have launched investigations. We'll see if the WH ever launches one, but I doubt it seeing as it's Dem.
Several!
Not political at all!
The Texas hearings prove that!
Well so far IN said it found no impropriety and a judge issued a court order against your boys. You keep hoping/praying or whatever you do.
a temporary restraining order from a liberal judge who fundraised for the Obama campaign so it's not hard too see where that one was going. And the court order, as I understand it, is only against videos that mention Stem Express, not all of them. We'll see what happens in he future.
Yay Obama! I feel Sunday's sermon cooking up! Time to become Evangelical!
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