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    The dark siders have never really come off as the "kill defenseless people for no reason" types. They'll kill whomever to further their own ends, for sure. But they tend not to be homicidal maniacs. The light/dark dichotomy seems to be more id/superego than good/evil. Though who knows with Disney calling the shots?
    Not sure Anakin killing younglings fits with that.

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    One of the problems with the prequels is that Darth maul died so quickly. Would much rather he be the villain rather than Count Dooku (as much as I like Christopher Lee).
    The way they brought him back in the ridiculous EU was stupid. Dude fell like 8000 miles and was cut in half. He's dead. But no. Even though the old EU is now disregarded, they still brought him back in the ing cartoons, which is considered canon now. you Lucas.

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    Actually episode 3 was a good ass Star Wars movie.

    With ty dialogue.
    Episode 3 was easily the worst of all 7. I'll watch Phantom Menace any day over that .

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    Episode 3 was easily the worst of all 7. I'll watch Phantom Menace any day over that .
    agreed

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    The dark siders have never really come off as the "kill defenseless people for no reason" types. They'll kill whomever to further their own ends, for sure. But they tend not to be homicidal maniacs. The light/dark dichotomy seems to be more id/superego than good/evil. Though who knows with Disney calling the shots?
    Star Wars light/dark is tao buddhist transcendentalism as opposed to a nihilist will to power as in the nazis.

    The light side of surrendering self for the force/way is taoist at its core. Stormtroopers help figure out the empire's role and philosophy. Their ends are the state/self itself which is fascism at its core.

    They are still doing that same . When she is fighting in the end and noticeably surrenders her self in meditation. The legions of storm troopers lined up and indoctrinated in the death of their enemies by a demagogue is another clue. Super weapons YAY!

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    Actually episode 3 was a good ass Star Wars movie.

    With ty dialogue.
    its in my top 3 for SW. It's not everyone's tea though. Iirc Lucas had a lot of help writing the dialogue in Episode 4, which explains the prequels' dialogue. Lucas talent is in visual storytelling and Episode 3 is great in that regard.

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    Darth maul fought the 2 strongest jedis tbh. es were cowards and ganged up on him chimp style
    The two strongest Jedis were a and a muppet TBH.

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    Not sure Anakin killing younglings fits with that.
    Yeah, he killed young Jedi because he was told to. He was just trying to destroy his enemy. But if those kids weren't Jedi, he wouldn't have touched them. Nor would he had if those kids were already locked up in empire custody.

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    The dark siders have never really come off as the "kill defenseless people for no reason" types. They'll kill whomever to further their own ends, for sure. But they tend not to be homicidal maniacs. The light/dark dichotomy seems to be more id/superego than good/evil. Though who knows with Disney calling the shots?
    Except for that whole village wipeout scene

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    Except for that whole village wipeout scene
    Who ordered that? I don't remember. And I'm not saying that there aren't good or evil in the universe; it's just that good/evil doesn't really line up with light/dark. That was the whole point of the third movie. Anakin wasn't evil because he didn't want Padme to die. He essentially did his version of John Q to try to save her. The reason he went to the dark side wasn't because he wanted to do bad things to people. It was because he was willing to do whatever he had to to reach his ends. , was the Emperor even evil? It really doesn't seem like he was when he took over or even at the end of the final movie. He just seemed amoral.

    I don't put it past Disney to mess up what was probably the only complex idea Lucas created, but I don't think it makes sense to assume dark-siders are innately like Nazis

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    Lukes proton torpedoes never should have gone in that way they did based on the angle they were fired from the xwing! He couldn't have used the force because he hadnt been trained enough yet! Plot hole plot hole!!

    What a joke of a movie that was!

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    Who ordered that? I don't remember.
    That would be Kylo Ren

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    That would be Kylo Ren
    Seems emo then.

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    I don't really have a problem with the bad guy wiping out innocent lives. Just be consistent with it.

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    Episode 3 was easily the worst of all 7. I'll watch Phantom Menace any day over that .
    loving the phantom menace and beating off to scenes of jar jar and the little kids.

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    Except for that whole village wipeout scene
    That has happened in the opening movie of each trilogy now.

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    loving the phantom menace and beating off to scenes of jar jar and the little kids.
    phantom menace is decent. Episode 3 just sucks.

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    loving the phantom menace and beating off to scenes of jar jar and the little kids.
    I just think Phantom Menace is a huge piece of , but that ROTS is the hugest piece of .

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    I don't really have a problem with the bad guy wiping out innocent lives. Just be consistent with it.
    You're essentially saying that just because they kill innocent lives in one setting, they should kill them in all settings? Ren had absolutely no reason to think Poe would escape. So why would he kill him? Meanwhile, the troopers just had a battle with the villagers. Makes sense to kill them either for strategic or emotional reasons.

    It's amazing that the Sith keep finding a way to hatch evil plots with all the homicidal rampages they have to go on.

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    Why kill Poe? Keep him as bait for the Resistance.

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    In two years this is going to be the consensus about TFA and the prequels.

    The prequels had terrible execution/acting/dialogue/character and plot development, but at least they were creative and added to the star wars world....even if it was often in stupid ways.

    TFA had decent execution/acting/dialogue (mostly)/characters, (some bad plot development) but was completely devoid of any new ideas.

    There is no rule that you need a death star to make a star wars movie. They could literally do whatever they wanted to with the plot, with limitless possibilities, and they just rehashed a previous movie.

    In ten years nobody is ever going to watch the force awakens because it will be completely irrelevant.

    Or is Disney just going to remake the same movie every year? It's going to get very old after the eighth death star is destroyed.
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    The best part of the prequels?


    Clone Wars series

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    In two years this is going to be the consensus about TFA and the prequels.

    The prequels had terrible execution/acting/dialogue/character and plot development, but at least they were creative and added to the star wars world....even if it was often in stupid ways.

    TFA had decent execution/acting/dialogue (mostly)/characters, (some bad plot development) but was completely devoid of any new ideas.

    There is no rule that you need a death star to make a star wars movie. They could literally do whatever they wanted to with the plot, with limitless possibilities, and they just rehashed a previous movie.

    In ten years nobody is ever going to watch the force awakens because it will be completely irrelevant.

    Or is Disney just going to remake the same movie every year? It's going to get very old after the eighth death star is destroyed.
    Undo ented rumor that Fin will be frozen in Carbonite in the next movie and sent to Habba the Jut

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    The best part of the prequels?


    Clone Wars series
    Does it get better tbh?

    I'm watching it on Netflix and so far it the plot seems random as . One episode they're fighting Grievous and the next they're looking for R2 because he got kidnapped.

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    Does it get better tbh?

    I'm watching it on Netflix and so far it the plot seems random as . One episode they're fighting Grievous and the next they're looking for R2 because he got kidnapped.
    Im watching it on Netflix as well (season 2)

    It does get better tbh

    It's a shame Cab Bane didn't make it to the big screen

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