are the spurs better without parker?

[gambit1990]

Gambit

[RD2191]

Porker fans have never once come up with a response to these statistical truth bombs. Tony Tissot is one of the biggest choke artists ever. It's insane how much hate Manu gets for his turnovers, Kawhi for missing one free throw, etc. when they've had to put up with this got choking the entire postseason every year.

[sasaint]

Porker fans have never once come up with a response to these statistical truth bombs. Tony Tissot is one of the biggest choke artists ever. It's insane how much hate Manu gets for his turnovers, Kawhi for missing one free throw, etc. when they've had to put up with this got choking the entire postseason every year.

Not sure why a Clippers fan is so invested in a Tony Parker discussion on a Spurs forum, but thanks for posting all the advanced metrics.

[Darius Bieber]

[gambit1990]

the thought of him on the spurs doesn't sit well with me. can't believe it took so long for so many of you to see how little he does for the team.

someone has to be willing to trade for him. worse contracts have been moved...

i feel like he'd prefer a big market. maybe sean marks can us a solid? not sure what assets the nets have though

[K...]

the thought of him on the spurs doesn't sit well with me. can't believe it took so long for so many of you to see how little he does for the team.

someone has to be willing to trade for him. worse contracts have been moved...

i feel like he'd prefer a big market. maybe sean marks can us a solid? not sure what assets the nets have though

Again why be a spurfan if you have these strong emotions?

[gambit1990]

Again why be a spurfan if you have these strong emotions?

because i'm a spurs fan, not a parker fan you ing re .

[Clipper Nation]

Not sure why a Clippers fan is so invested in a Tony Parker discussion on a Spurs forum, but thanks for posting all the advanced metrics.

Duncan and Kawhi are two of my favorite players, so I watch lots of Spurs games - which includes seeing a fatass heroballer freeze them out all the time.

[DAF86]

For next season I think so. We need an explosive PG, that can hit outside shots with consistency.

[TXstbobcat]

For next season I think so. We need an explosive PG, that can hit outside shots with consistency.

I'm in favor of a new starter and giving Parker a new role coming off the bench next season

[gambit1990]

I'm in favor of a new starter and giving Parker a new role coming off the bench next season

a suggested solution from the original post:

he comes off the bench as purely a scorer and would have an easier time scoring against the opponents' second unit.

my concern with him coming off the bench is... i don't want him playing the way he does as a starter. he would need to adjust significantly. the new role you alluded to.

[DAF86]

I'm in favor of a new starter and giving Parker a new role coming off the bench next season

Problem with that is the salary man. It's a waste of cap space to have a bench player taking 15 million of cape space that could be used to improve the roster.

[gambit1990]

^true. parker isn't worth his contract as a starter... him off the bench going forward would be a lot of money to spend on him.

[K...]

Problem with that is the salary man. It's a waste of cap space to have a bench player taking 15 million of cape space that could be used to improve the roster.

You are not smart. The salary is a sunk cost. You pay it based on negotiations. You are free to overpay the bench.

[DAF86]

You are not smart. The salary is a sunk cost. You pay it based on negotiations. You are free to overpay the bench.

Yeah, well. You know what's not smart? Giving all-star money to a guy that gives you below average production for an NBA player.

[HankChinaski]

If Duncan doesn't come back for one more year I think they consider looking heavily for trade options for Parker so long as they don't have to pick up a worse contract in return. It is truly up in the air.

I do agree paying 15 mil for a PG off the bench is not ideal.

[gambit1990]

my thought process on what the spurs do with parker is kinda stuck.

i could imagine pop saying something like, "tony is family. he'll be our starter until he retires, just like timmy."

what gives me hope is that we traded hill when pop said that was his favorite player at the time.

[cd021]

The problem with Parker off the bench is him being paired with Mills. If manu comes back then you would be looking at a 3 guard set offensively Parker is basically Cojo and Manu did not play well with him because teams ignored him when he did not have the ball. Parker has become a good 3pt shooter but primarily in the corners. There is also Anderson to think about, he is the backup 3, in that situation he would either be moved to the four (if the spurs move on from Diaw) or have to find minutes on the wing behind Green, Kawhi, and Manu.

Parker was much better this season than last but I doubt that the Spurs would move him or could move him. I would hope that they would do it at the draft and get a mid to late first rounder for him but there are not really any teams in need for a vet PG with that much cash committed to him.

[gambit1990]

The problem with Parker off the bench is him being paired with Mills.

correct.

in the original post, one suggestion i made was that he come off the bench... also had this to say:

BUT him coming off the bench would slightly negate the affect of whoever would come off the bench with him: manu or patty.

[gambit1990]

i definitely think he can be moved though. if the spurs really wanted to do that. worse contracts have been traded.

too bad billy king isn't in charge somewhere

[cd021]

correct.

in the original post, one suggestion i made was that he come off the bench... also had this to say:

my bad, did not read part. I agree. Spurs would have him altogether.

[dbestpro]

Parker needs to be moved to the bench so he can play hero ball in limited minutes against other teams scrubs.

[gambit1990]

Parker needs to be moved to the bench so he can play hero ball in limited minutes against other teams scrubs.

that's what i wanted to happen this season.

pretty sure we wouldn't have enough cap space to afford him off the bench AND afford a starting caliber pg.

[Spurs9]

This is a dumb question without knowing who replaces him.

[gambit1990]

^not a dumb question. this thread was made well before the trade deadline. wish we moved him back when he had move value than he does now.