Damn, Stephen Jackson just aired out Porker's dirty laundry on THTV

[SASdynasty!]

If a player like Jackson wants to "get paid," there is "nothing wrong with it" outside of it showing you value money over winning. It's an indictment on his lack of loyalty and his greediness and for some (like him) it ends up coming back to bite them. With Jackson we may have won more chips and may have won less. He might have shot us out of G5 or G7 against Detroit, who knows? It's all hypothetical at this point. But what we do know is that he was a player with the potential to get hot. That is a great fit as a role-player for a team that has heavy lifters like the big 3. That's why I always wanted to keep him, because he was an ideal fit for the system. But apparently he caused too much damage in the locker room for it to be worth it for Pop. But, yah, there was no way Jackson's streaky shooting was going to lead a team to a legitimate playoff run.

[Kawhitstorm]

The market is going to dictate how much they earn, stupid ass. He wasn't offered anything above the Spurs offer because he hadn't done of value. He had to go play on an absolutely terrible team to help increase his value. Good for him. He never won anything or did anything of merit except an upset win with 07 Warriors.

Dumbass, his agent ed up putting his eggs in one basket & not talking to other teams while he was negotiation w/ cheap ass RC. By the time he turned down the Spurs offer teams that needed a starting wing had used up their cap space. (Spurs had his Bird rights so they could have gone over the cap & offered him as much as they WANTED)

R.C. has given goo value contracts and bad contracts just like every GM in every professional league. He offered Jackson what he believed his market value was and Jackson didn't accept. Instead, choosing to play on a bad team and go after a huge payday over winning championships. Which are two things he claims he never did.

Dumbass, you're acting like he turned down a 70 million contract like Harrison Barnes. Dude got offered 1/4 of what Malik Rose got as a backup PF.

See stupid, you are trying in vein to rationalize his false narrative with what actually happened. Maybe in your land "what if's" and make believe that'll fly, but I'm going to call bull when I see it.

No need of "what if's", he helped the Spurs in 2007 by knocking out their nemesis: Dirk & the Mavs.

[TD 21]

LMAO

I let you idiots get back to your regularly scheduled stupidity. "Porker sucks and needs to die!"

"Kawhi is the greatest SF ever and better than LeBron, Scottie and Larry."

"Manu is the best. He never ed up in his career, is way better than Porker and he is as important as TOSB Duncan."

" Pop, he don't give the ball to Kawhi and Manu enough. Too much Porker, Softridge and TOSB Duncan, man."

"Duh......."

Did I miss anything?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

And to my main point before this thread was derailed by the Manu apologists, Parker maybe a ty person but Stephen Jackson should never be the voice for your argument. He was more selfish, arrogant and mediocre throughout his carrer than Tony ever was.

He burned bridges, on former teammates (Manu, Tony and Metta) and was eventually a cancer in every city he played in.

[gambit1990]

more from jackson:
https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/f...12-west-finals

[Sean Cagney]

more from jackson:
https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/f...12-west-finals

I came in here to find just this, thank you.....

[J_Paco]

more from jackson:
https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/f...12-west-finals

He said nothing new, but just reiterated his point that Tony was "selfish" and Pop wouldn't "listen" to him.

Haven't watched that game in years, but bringing it up in 2016 is pretty pointless. The Thunder won and the Spurs lost, so placing blame so many years later isn't going to change the facts of the matter.

Plus, Tony actually played well that game so I don't see how he was even the reason they lost.

I know that certain people need this as evidence that Tony is a "selfish prick" and has cost the team countless victories. He also, apparently, has an agenda against his own teammates since he may or may not have ed one of their wives (in the past).

[SASdynasty!]

Parker had 29/12 that game. Jackson & Duncan also played well. Manu & Kawhi had bad games, but everyone does. It's not every game that the refs are that bad though.

[140]

He said nothing new, but just reiterated his point that Tony was "selfish" and Pop wouldn't "listen" to him.

Haven't watched that game in years, but bringing it up in 2016 is pretty pointless. The Thunder won and the Spurs lost, so placing blame so many years later isn't going to change the facts of the matter.

Plus, Tony actually played well that game so I don't see how he was even the reason they lost.

I know that certain people need this as evidence that Tony is a "selfish prick" and has cost the team countless victories. He also, apparently, has an agenda against his own teammates since he may or may not have ed one of their wives (in the past).

[Mouth is Bleeding]

TONY PARKER SLEPT WITH HIS TEAMMATE'S WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A highly respected teammate. He destroyed his teammate's marriage.

In the recent high-profile Manu articles and podcasts it is described how Manu and Barry were really good friends.

Barry even visited Manu in Argentina.

Especially Tim as the supreme leader took it upon him to move on, lead the team and maintain working relationships for the greater good of the team.

Manu kept being Manu with his humility, kindness and unselfishness.

But make no mistake about it, they and many others, really do not like Tony.

Forget the bad play, the stupid play and selfishness on court.

OFF THE COURT (where no one is spending time with Tony ever, not even Diaw) Tony Parker committed the greatest sin possible as a team player. He destroyed the marriage of his teammate. He couldn't stay away from a teammate's wife. This is worst locker room sin in existence.

Spurs winning culture is so strong that they managed to moved on, on the surface, but there is no way this will have been forgotten and one day, maybe years from now, careers over, everyone worthy in the Hall of Fame, things will come out and more respected voices than that of Jackson, will tell the truth about Tony. How they really feel about him and all his flaws. How strong they had to be when he kept showing weaknesses and threatened Spurs culture like no one ever since.

No one is perfect of course and I don't even necessarily agree with stone-age team rules about teammates, wifes etc etc but this is the one thing that is completely unacceptable within a team. It is the smelliest dirtiest part of the Porker laundry and of course one day it will surface and likely it will show that Tony isn't loved. He isn't liked and only respected for his best periods on the court.

[K...]

TONY PARKER SLEPT WITH HIS TEAMMATE'S WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A highly respected teammate.

In the recent high-profile Manu articles and podcasts it is described how Manu and Barry were really good friends.

Barry even visited Manu in Argentina.

Especially Tim as the supreme leader took it upon him to move on, lead the team and maintain working relationships for the greater good of the team.

Manu kept being Manu with his humility, kindness and unselfishness.

But make no mistake about it, they and many others, really do not like Tony.

Forget the bad play, the stupid play and selfishness on court.

OFF THE COURT (where no one is spending time with Tony ever, not even Diaw) Tony Parker committed the greatest sin possible as a team player. He destroyed the marriage of his teammate. He couldn't stay away from a teammate's wife. This is greatest locker room sin in existence.

Spurs winning culture is so strong that they managed to moved on, on the surface, but there is no way this will have been forgotten and one day, maybe years from now, careers over, everyone worthy in the Hall of Fame, things will come out and more respected voices than that of Jackson, will tell the truth about Tony. How they really feel about him and all his flaws. How strong they had to be when he kept showing weaknesses and threatened Spurs culture like no one ever since.

No one is perfect of course and I don't even necessarily agree with stone-age team rules about teammates, wifes etc etc but this is the one thing that is completely unacceptable within a team. It is the smelliest dirtiest part of the Porker laundry and of course one day it will surface and likely it will show that Tony isn't loved. He isn't liked and only respected for his best periods on the court.

THEY WERE ALL ADULTS

[Mouth is Bleeding]

THEY WERE ALL ADULTS

Yes and she is an independent woman who is free and can do what she want.

But whether we agree with these things or not (there is no doubt that this is sexist in its roots), it doesn't change the realities when it comes to what Tony did and how it's the worst thing you can do as a teammate against your teammate.

[Leetonidas]

Like any one of you wouldn't Erin Barry if she said “give me your baguette”

[Mouth is Bleeding]

[Mouth is Bleeding]

Like any one of you wouldn't Erin Barry if she said “give me your baguette”

Yup, but part of being a teammate is not doing EXACTLY this. Only a select few s bag teammates would ever do this. Have ever done this.

Who else does this? Tony did it! It's part of his SELFISH character and obviously even dirtier laundry than the on court stuff.

Maybe if they were actually in love or some . Started a relationship or whatever. Instead it's just pure selfishness, just like on the court at times, for short term own satisfaction for his hairy french hero-balls at the expense of everyone else.

Well, not just anyone else, his own wife, his teammate.

This speaks to his character.

We can only hope that it has improved. A good sign would be pure unselfishness coming from him this season. He owes it to everyone, more than anyone.

[K...]

As much as I agree that adultery is bad, the presentation of the idea Tony cheated was never proven. It's just a smoke fire thing. Also it happened five years ago. We should move on. I.n those five years this team was consistently successful, more so than any other team not known as the Miami heat. Anyone still complainant about Tony and Erin is misrepresented the facts and beating a dead horse.

[gambit1990]

disgraceful what tony did. worst thing a teammate could do tbh.

[gambit1990]

and people in this thread are talking about jackson's character

[Mouth is Bleeding]

As much as I agree that adultery is bad, the presentation of the idea Tony cheated was never proven. It's just a smoke fire thing. Also it happened five years ago. We should move on. I.n those five years this team was consistently successful, more so than any other team not known as the Miami heat. Anyone still complainant about Tony and Erin is misrepresented the facts and beating a dead horse.

adultery is what it is and has been a sacred part of french culture. Every French gentleman worth anything must have a mistress on the side but in the TEAM locker-room this is something much worse.

Thankfully the Spurs were very strong and overcame this but this is about Tony's character and what it means on the court. I think there is a direct link to this his greatest sin as a teammate off the court to his selfishness on the court. He is just a bad teammate period which is exactly the dirty laundry, that Duncan proclaimed great teammate Jackson wants to expose, whatever his motivations and desperation.

[RD2191]

You know you're a loser when you cheat on Eva Longoria.

[itzsoweezee]

TONY PARKER SLEPT WITH HIS TEAMMATE'S WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A highly respected teammate. He destroyed his teammate's marriage.

In the recent high-profile Manu articles and podcasts it is described how Manu and Barry were really good friends.

Barry even visited Manu in Argentina.

Especially Tim as the supreme leader took it upon him to move on, lead the team and maintain working relationships for the greater good of the team.

Manu kept being Manu with his humility, kindness and unselfishness.

But make no mistake about it, they and many others, really do not like Tony.

Forget the bad play, the stupid play and selfishness on court.

OFF THE COURT (where no one is spending time with Tony ever, not even Diaw) Tony Parker committed the greatest sin possible as a team player. He destroyed the marriage of his teammate. He couldn't stay away from a teammate's wife. This is worst locker room sin in existence.

Spurs winning culture is so strong that they managed to moved on, on the surface, but there is no way this will have been forgotten and one day, maybe years from now, careers over, everyone worthy in the Hall of Fame, things will come out and more respected voices than that of Jackson, will tell the truth about Tony. How they really feel about him and all his flaws. How strong they had to be when he kept showing weaknesses and threatened Spurs culture like no one ever since.

No one is perfect of course and I don't even necessarily agree with stone-age team rules about teammates, wifes etc etc but this is the one thing that is completely unacceptable within a team. It is the smelliest dirtiest part of the Porker laundry and of course one day it will surface and likely it will show that Tony isn't loved. He isn't liked and only respected for his best periods on the court.

Nothing more really needs to be said. Parker's basically a selfish asshole whose deteriorating level of play no longer justifies putting up with his iness.

[sasaint]

TONY PARKER SLEPT WITH HIS TEAMMATE'S WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A highly respected teammate. He destroyed his teammate's marriage.

In the recent high-profile Manu articles and podcasts it is described how Manu and Barry were really good friends.

Barry even visited Manu in Argentina.

Especially Tim as the supreme leader took it upon him to move on, lead the team and maintain working relationships for the greater good of the team.

Manu kept being Manu with his humility, kindness and unselfishness.

But make no mistake about it, they and many others, really do not like Tony.

Forget the bad play, the stupid play and selfishness on court.

OFF THE COURT (where no one is spending time with Tony ever, not even Diaw) Tony Parker committed the greatest sin possible as a team player. He destroyed the marriage of his teammate. He couldn't stay away from a teammate's wife. This is worst locker room sin in existence.

Spurs winning culture is so strong that they managed to moved on, on the surface, but there is no way this will have been forgotten and one day, maybe years from now, careers over, everyone worthy in the Hall of Fame, things will come out and more respected voices than that of Jackson, will tell the truth about Tony. How they really feel about him and all his flaws. How strong they had to be when he kept showing weaknesses and threatened Spurs culture like no one ever since.

No one is perfect of course and I don't even necessarily agree with stone-age team rules about teammates, wifes etc etc but this is the one thing that is completely unacceptable within a team. It is the smelliest dirtiest part of the Porker laundry and of course one day it will surface and likely it will show that Tony isn't loved. He isn't liked and only respected for his best periods on the court.

Disclaimer: I was a fan of Brent. I kind of thought of him as Manu-light. I really loved the ball movement when those two were on the floor together.

Questions: After that alleged episode, why did PATFO ship out Brent rather than Tony? If all you state is true, then why has Pop made Tony more and more a "permanent" member of the Spurs in the years since?

[140]

Disclaimer: I was a fan of Brent. I kind of thought of him as Manu-light. I really loved the ball movement when those two were on the floor together.

Questions: After that alleged episode, why did PATFO ship out Brent rather than Tony? If all you state is true, then why has Pop made Tony more and more a "permanent" member of the Spurs in the years since?

CIA poop tbh

[J_Paco]

You know you're a loser when you cheat on Eva Longoria.

You realize Eva original marriage ended because she allegedly - there is that word that is never applied to Tony's situation - cheated on her first husband with Mario Lopez?

She wasn't a saint and should have realized that a young, attractive dude might have a wandering eye. No one knows what else led to the a dissolution of those two relationships, but I know it is easiest to just blame one person out of 4.

Tony could be/was a person, but that doesn't automatically mean he was a "selfish" player. Especially when in the last 15 seasons no one else has ever said things like this about his on-court character.

But hey, let's take the word of an actual selfish, egotistical athlete that burned every bridge during his career.

[RD2191]

You realize Eva original marriage ended because he allegedly - there is that word that is never applied to Tony's situation - cheated on her first husband with Mario Lopez?

She wasn't a saint and should have realized that a young, attractive dude might have a wandering eye. No one knows what else led to the a dissolution of those two relationships, but I know it is easiest to just blame one person out of 4.

Tony could be/was a person, but that doesn't automatically mean he was a "selfish" player. Especially when in the last 15 seasons no one else has ever said things like this about his on-court character.

But hey, let's take the word of an actual selfish, egotistical athlete that burned every bridge during his career.

No one ever said anything because they have too much class. Sjax said class and put TP on blast.

[daslicer]

No one ever said anything because they have too much class. Sjax said class and put TP on blast.

Of course this man has a history of doing that ala '04 brawl,being a cancer in the Warriors and Bobcats locker room.