Rockets: Woj: CP3 traded to the Rockets

[Gummi Clutch]

The Rockets are the clear underdogs in this series, how can people be so disingenuous?

The most stacked team in NBA history, this is the real finals right here. Absurd what people are saying, but that's why this forum went downhill.

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They’re the 1 seed with HCA, for s sale. If they can’t hang with GS for 7 games, they’re clearly underacheiving.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Not to mention Houston has been talking extraordinary amounts of all year. Talk of being better than GS, obsession with GS, how their entire season was played with GS in their minds. To lose a really close, hard fought series is fine, but laying an egg now, after a year of hyping themselves up, would be hilarious.

[Clipper Nation]

Not to mention Houston has been talking extraordinary amounts of all year. Talk of being better than GS, obsession with GS, how their entire season was played with GS in their minds. To lose a really close, hard fought series is fine, but laying an egg now, after a year of hyping themselves up, would be hilarious.

Facts. That smug Morey has been doing victory laps all season like they've already beaten the Warriors. Honestly, anything short of beating them is a chokejob with all the they've talked and how much the gy NBA media has hyped them up.

[Chris Fall]

It’s a chokejob if they lose because... they talked ? Lol because they talked ...

So all the you talked gassing up Russ and him getting bounced in the first round means... you did a chokejob on Russell Westbone? Second chokejob for you really since you already gagged on Blake Griffin missing the playoffs entirely after all the talk you did for him. Amirite?

Chokejob due to talking . Do YOU even take yourself seriously?

[Clipper Nation]

It’s a chokejob if they lose because... they talked ? Lol because they talked ...

So all the you talked gassing up Russ and him getting bounced in the first round means... you did a chokejob on Russell Westbone? Second chokejob for you really since you already gagged on Blake Griffin missing the playoffs entirely after all the talk you did for him. Amirite?

Chokejob due to talking . Do YOU even take yourself seriously?

I'm just a fan giving my opinion. When a team hypes themselves up to the degree that the Rockets have this year, or the Warriors did in 2016 for that matter, it's embarrassing if/when they don't back it up on the court.

[spurraider21]

Embarrassing =/= choking

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

when a team talks crazy amounts of and can’t back it up to at least a respectable degree for their talent level, that’s a choke. (Obviously any asshole can talk , but we’re assuming the Rockets have the talent to back their talk up). The knobslobbers will do anything to defend these guys i’ll admit i’m wrong if they win. I hope to god i’m wrong, cuz the Warriors. But knobslob all you want, losing this series in 6 or fewer is ABSOLUTELY A CHOKEJOB for the Rockets.

Or do you think the Rockets aren’t good enough to back up their talk?

[Chris Fall]

Lmao

99.99999% of NBA players talk , at least the ones who actually get time on the court. Some are bold enough to do it in the media and on social media. Others do it mostly on the court. Others only do it in practice or in the lockerroom or to their friends and fam. I was talking to a guy who played D1 college basketball in the 90s, not drafted, never played in the league, made a couple NBA summer teams. He swore up and down Kobe sweated his game and couldn’t guard him when he was at Lakers camp. Dude didn’t even make it in the league. Was talking . Didn’t Lavar Ball swear Michael could have never guarded him? You’re naive if you don’t think all these players don’t talk . We just saw Joel Afrikaans talking the other night with his team down 0-3 in the series.

”knobslobbers” will do anything to defend these guys. Haters are saying that talking and losing means they choked in a league where everyone talks. Think about the strain on reality to come up with that logic. Forget if the other team is simply the better team or plays better or barely wins a closely contested series.

If you talk and lose, even against a better team, it’s a choke job. Read that comment. Say it out loud if you have to. It’s ridiculously stupid.

[ambchang]

To any casual observer here it seems you don't know what clutch is, he's using it right (as any non-dumbass would). What do you call continuously making shots at the end of games...playoff games...elimination games? If you were the asian kid that never got to play and always watched from the sidelines I feel bad for you.

Its clear from your posts you have no idea what you're ever talking about tbh.

Up 3-1, in a game that doesn't really matter if they win or not against a 5th seed.

And wouldn't an Asian kid who never got to play and always watch from the sidelines be the perfect person to talk about definitions?

[ambchang]

That was a completely different team. We were MUCH better than them last year you ing idiot

Angry asian loser trying to talk basketball once again.

Do you know what is being talked about here? You are so far off the topic I am not even sure how to respond.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Lmao

99.99999% of NBA players talk , at least the ones who actually get time on the court. Some are bold enough to do it in the media and on social media. Others do it mostly on the court. Others only do it in practice or in the lockerroom or to their friends and fam. I was talking to a guy who played D1 college basketball in the 90s, not drafted, never played in the league, made a couple NBA summer teams. He swore up and down Kobe sweated his game and couldn’t guard him when he was at Lakers camp. Dude didn’t even make it in the league. Was talking . Didn’t Lavar Ball swear Michael could have never guarded him? You’re naive if you don’t think all these players don’t talk . We just saw Joel Afrikaans talking the other night with his team down 0-3 in the series.

”knobslobbers” will do anything to defend these guys. Haters are saying that talking and losing means they choked in a league where everyone talks. Think about the strain on reality to come up with that logic. Forget if the other team is simply the better team or plays better or barely wins a closely contested series.

If you talk and lose, even against a better team, it’s a choke job. Read that comment. Say it out loud if you have to. It’s ridiculously stupid.

So you dont think Houston is that good

[Chris Fall]

So you dont think Houston is that good

That’s not the argument. The point I argued was against the idea that talking in and of itself then losing is considered a chokejob. That’s what sounds stupid. Has nothing to do whether Houston is good enough to beat the Warriors or not. Again, moving the goal posts.

But if you must know, in the prediction thread, I took Houston in 7 so I clearly think Houston is good enough. I also am readily willing to admit that Golden State is a great team that has won two of the last three championships and been to three straight Finals and a team that CP3 and Rockets haters have sworn had their foot off the gas pedal for the regular season and is a main reason why Houston has the #1 seed anyway. So losing to them would not only not be a shock, it is reasonably foreseeable that it can happen.

This back and forth starts with the premise that losing after talking a lot of is a choke job. Talking . Because of talking? If Golden State is the better team and outplays them, then I don’t see a choke. Now if Houston has a 3-1 lead in the series and loses it in 7 on their home court, I could consider that a choke. If they get beat in 4-5 games where all the losses are close and they get beat in the final 4-5 minutes of each game where Harden and CP3 miss all their shots and turn the ball over, yes, that’s a choke. But losing to a great 2 time championship team that plays great, it’s not necessarily a choke, and certainly not a choke BECAUSE there was talk by Houston.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

That’s not the argument. The point I argued was against the idea that talking in and of itself then losing is considered a chokejob. That’s what sounds stupid. Has nothing to do whether Houston is good enough to beat the Warriors or not. Again, moving the goal posts.

But if you must know, in the prediction thread, I took Houston in 7 so I clearly think Houston is good enough. I also am readily willing to admit that Golden State is a great team that has won two of the last three championships and been to three straight Finals and a team that CP3 and Rockets haters have sworn had their foot off the gas pedal for the regular season and is a main reason why Houston has the #1 seed anyway. So losing to them would not only not be a shock, it is reasonably foreseeable that it can happen.

This back and forth starts with the premise that losing after talking a lot of is a choke job. Talking . Because of talking? If Golden State is the better team and outplays them, then I don’t see a choke. Now if Houston has a 3-1 lead in the series and loses it in 7 on their home court, I could consider that a choke. If they get beat in 4-5 games where all the losses are close and they get beat in the final 4-5 minutes of each game where Harden and CP3 miss all their shots and turn the ball over, yes, that’s a choke. But losing to a great 2 time championship team that plays great, it’s not necessarily a choke, and certainly not a choke BECAUSE there was talk by Houston.

So you dont think Houston is that good

[HarlemHeat37]

Chris Paul was a monster in game 7, but he's never had issues dominating against mediocre playoff teams, I don't see what the hype is about..beating 47-win teams(one of them missing their starting PG) has never been his problem..

He needs to dominate against GS to cement his legacy..Houston was the 1-seed, I don't know why some posters here are acting like they were some borderline 50-win team or a high-win team with no stars like the old Hawks

They won 65 games and have the MVP, this isn't a cute underdog story..they aren't favorites against GS, but I would call it a choke if they don't at least make the series compe ive(6 games)..

[spurraider21]

That’s not the argument. The point I argued was against the idea that talking in and of itself then losing is considered a chokejob. That’s what sounds stupid. Has nothing to do whether Houston is good enough to beat the Warriors or not. Again, moving the goal posts.

But if you must know, in the prediction thread, I took Houston in 7 so I clearly think Houston is good enough. I also am readily willing to admit that Golden State is a great team that has won two of the last three championships and been to three straight Finals and a team that CP3 and Rockets haters have sworn had their foot off the gas pedal for the regular season and is a main reason why Houston has the #1 seed anyway. So losing to them would not only not be a shock, it is reasonably foreseeable that it can happen.

This back and forth starts with the premise that losing after talking a lot of is a choke job. Talking . Because of talking? If Golden State is the better team and outplays them, then I don’t see a choke. Now if Houston has a 3-1 lead in the series and loses it in 7 on their home court, I could consider that a choke. If they get beat in 4-5 games where all the losses are close and they get beat in the final 4-5 minutes of each game where Harden and CP3 miss all their shots and turn the ball over, yes, that’s a choke. But losing to a great 2 time championship team that plays great, it’s not necessarily a choke, and certainly not a choke BECAUSE there was talk by Houston.

So you dont think Houston is that good

[spurraider21]

Chris Paul was a monster in game 7, but he's never had issues dominating against mediocre playoff teams, I don't see what the hype is about..beating 47-win teams(one of them missing their starting PG) has never been his problem..

He needs to dominate against GS to cement his legacy..Houston was the 1-seed, I don't know why some posters here are acting like they were some borderline 50-win team or a high-win team with no stars like the old Hawks

They won 65 games and have the MVP, this isn't a cute underdog story..they aren't favorites against GS, but I would call it a choke if they don't at least make the series compe ive(6 games)..

that's fair imo

[Chris Fall]

He needs to dominate against GS to cement his legacy..Houston was the 1-seed, I don't know why some posters here are acting like they were some borderline 50-win team or a high-win team with no stars like the old Hawks

Both apologists and haters are talking out of both sides of their mouths.

Maybe some of the apologists talk like Houston isn’t a 1 seed and doesn’t have the league MVP. But the haters have discredited the regular season wins all season long as a product of all the tanking teams and Golden State’s indifference to the regular season. They also scream how Harden is an unworthy and fraudulent MVP candidate. But now that they want to re-emphasize the playoff choking label, they want to stress that Houston is the higher seed with home court and that they’re the favorites now, even though they dismissed what the Rockets had done all along... until now.

It’s also talking out of both sides.

They won 65 games and have the MVP, this isn't a cute underdog story..they aren't favorites against GS, but I would call it a choke if they don't at least make the series compe ive(6 games)..

I probably agree with that, with the only caveat that if it’s say a five game series where every game is close and Golden State simply made more clutch shots than Houston and it wasn’t about Houston choking games away with missed shots and turnovers, I may not consider it a choke. I’d say Golden State is simply the better team.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

knobslobbers gonna knobslob

[AlexJones]

It's a definite choke if they lose in 5 on their home court.

[Down Under]

GS in 6. I sort of feel for D'Antoni more than anyone, he deserved a le in 2007, has been one of the most innovative offensive coaches but won't ever get over the top. People try to cite his stints with NY/LA to criticise him, ignoring those teams were mostly atrocious.

[AlexJones]

I don't know why some posters here are acting like they were some borderline 50-win team or a high-win team with no stars like the old Hawks

They're in denial about this Houston team. You were too, midway through the season, tbh

[HarlemHeat37]

They're in denial about this Houston team. You were too, midway through the season, tbh

I was, but obviously can't ignore the full season sample size..

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Both apologists and haters are talking out of both sides of their mouths.

Maybe some of the apologists talk like Houston isn’t a 1 seed and doesn’t have the league MVP. But the haters have discredited the regular season wins all season long as a product of all the tanking teams and Golden State’s indifference to the regular season. They also scream how Harden is an unworthy and fraudulent MVP candidate. But now that they want to re-emphasize the playoff choking label, they want to stress that Houston is the higher seed with home court and that they’re the favorites now, even though they dismissed what the Rockets had done all along... until now.

It’s also talking out of both sides.




I probably agree with that, with the only caveat that if it’s say a five game series where every game is close and Golden State simply made more clutch shots than Houston and it wasn’t about Houston choking games away with missed shots and turnovers, I may not consider it a choke. I’d say Golden State is simply the better team.

A 1-seed with the league MVP can both be expected to go far, while also be downplayed due to past failures....see 2007 Mavs.

[Clipper Nation]

According to 538, the Rockets currently have a 79% chance of beating the Warriors and a 69% chance of winning it all.

There you have it. It's championship or choke for the Rockets.