CP3 traded to Rockets

[DAF86]

Are people acting as if Ray Allen didn't lead the Sonics to a 50+ wins season in the mid 00's?

And that's just one of the many examples. lol Deron Williams and Carlos Boozer. Kevin Martin's Kings was a borderline 50 wins team over that period too if I recall correctly.

[Hoops Czar]

I think the tweet wouldn't say it but they probably didn't like the ticket price at his age. They allegedly wanted Kyrie really bad. I know you aren't a Kyrie fan. It's something that could be questionable. You trade Tony and don't sign Paddy and there's a start towards getting enough. One wonders if Pop was unwilling to pay up and trade guys or if CP3 was scared by the LMA situation. Considering the rift was real, the latter seems very likely. And it was leaked Harden recruited him very early in the summer. Spurs team had no chance there it seems like.

One also wonders the degree to which PATFO has bought stock in the Murray train. I know there's a lot of debate here about him but I do think Pop really likes him and is hoping he can be big time for them. Time will tell I guess.

They didn't have a problem with having an aging broken down 37 year old C opt out of his contract so they could re-sign him for three more years at the same obnoxious price just so they could make room for CP3. Oh, don't let reality fool you. RC bet the mortgage on CP3 because he pretended to show a little bit of interest and he got burned. Such a foolish GM. The Spurs never had a chance with CP3 because he never wanted the Spurs in the first place.

They wanted Kyrie so bad that they didn't make an official offer even though the Spurs were one of his top choices and Cleveland was receiving mostly toilet trash for offers until Boston stepped up a month later. And Ainge admittedly said how they only jumped into the trade because they were worried about IT's long term health status and I guess they were right. How did that work out for Cleveland?

[rjv]

i'll revisit this if the rockets actually get to the finals.

[SAGirl]

They didn't have a problem with having an aging broken down 37 year old C opt out of his contract so they could re-sign him for three more years at the same obnoxious price just so they could make room for CP3. Oh, don't let reality fool you. RC bet the mortgage on CP3 because he pretended to show a little bit of interest and he got burned. Such a foolish GM. The Spurs never had a chance with CP3 because he never wanted the Spurs in the first place.

They wanted Kyrie so bad that they didn't make an official offer even though the Spurs were one of his top choices and Cleveland was receiving mostly toilet trash for offers until Boston stepped up a month later. And Ainge admittedly said how they only jumped into the trade because they were worried about IT's long term health status and I guess they were right. How did that work out for Cleveland?

Boston stepped up with the Nets pick bc they had to. Another team was clearly offering a lot more than Ainge with his IThomas and filler initial offers. I do believe the Spurs offered Danny and Murray and a pick, or a comparably good offer. They also tried to involve 3rd parties to get players that Cleveland wanted. Boston's (Net's) pick was better than the Spurs one so the Spurs were never going to beat the Celtics.

RC did get burned by CP3. I was responding to an inference from gambit that RC didn't really try to go after CP3 which might have been a troll take in retrospect.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

A D'Antoni coached team will figure out some way to lose before reaching the finals.

[gambit1990]

rockets are 40-7 in games where cp3 plays. two losses (against boston and toronto) were because harden turned the ball over in crunch time.

[gambit1990]

harden goes 2-18... rockets win by 20.

cp3 with 27 on 55.6% shooting, 8 assists, 3 steals, 1 block

[UZER]

harden goes 2-18... rockets win by 20.

cp3 with 27 on 55.6% shooting, 8 assists, 3 steals, 1 block

Can’t change stripes. He’s gonna choke an important game away.

[DPG21920]

Here is where the CP3 deal will be judged. He fit well and obviously had no issue giving up the ball to Harden which was a big concern with CP3 usage/being a questionable teammate.

With a player of Harden’s clout, he had no choice really. But as great as their regular season was, it’s all about beating GS and whether CP3 was worth it. If HOU flames out, it’s a fail. They can lose the series, but they can’t flame out.

[gambit1990]

warriors still favorites... going with rockets though... kinda a homer pick since i'm a big cp3 fan.

warriors won't have an answer for capela... but it ultimately comes down to how much of a got harden plays like. he plays lackadaisical pretty often. if he plays locked in the whole series then i got the rockets in 6.

[DPG21920]

I say Warriors in 5 maybe 6

[coachmac87]

Here is where the CP3 deal will be judged. He fit well and obviously had no issue giving up the ball to Harden which was a big concern with CP3 usage/being a questionable teammate.

With a player of Harden’s clout, he had no choice really. But as great as their regular season was, it’s all about beating GS and whether CP3 was worth it. If HOU flames out, it’s a fail. They can lose the series, but they can’t flame out.

If they flame out LeBron will come...Paul is a FA and will take less..

Thompson taking less is just another reason that could be the case..especially if they “flame out”

[Clipper Nation]

If they flame out LeBron will come...Paul is a FA and will take less..

Thompson taking less is just another reason that could be the case..especially if they “flame out”

Houston would have to gut their team to the point where it wouldn't increase LeGOAT's chances of beating the Warriors enough to be worth it.

[dbestpro]

I can't imagine how good that OKC team would have been had they been able to stay together and had the proper coaching.

[Nathan89]

Nobody expected them to beat GSW because of CP3. They are a much better team and the problems that people said would occur didn't happen. That's a successful decision unless it prevented them from making another decision that would make the Rockets even better.

[DPG21920]

Nah - if CP3 can’t get the MVP over the hump the deal is a failure. They got lucky SA had drama and that OKC went belly up. They had a pretty easy run to the WCF all things considered. If they get murdered in this series, it’s a really bad look.

[Maddog]

Nah - if CP3 can’t get the MVP over the hump the deal is a failure. They got lucky SA had drama and that OKC went belly up. They had a pretty easy run to the WCF all things considered. If they get murdered in this series, it’s a really bad look.

Yeah and if they flame out they have some really tough choices during the summer.
80million committed. Then have to figure out what to do with an ageing pg who made 20+, a SF would is key and a center who will command a lot .

[Gummi Clutch]

Nah - if CP3 can’t get the MVP over the hump the deal is a failure. They got lucky SA had drama and that OKC went belly up. They had a pretty easy run to the WCF all things considered. If they get murdered in this series, it’s a really bad look.

This is such a B.S narrative.."easy path"

They played a fully healthy team that was the 3rd seed before injuries, then they played a team that had the 2nd ~ best record in the league since Gobert came back.

Just own it.

[DPG21920]

They had an easy path.

[RD2191]

They had an easy path.

So did the warriors tbh fwiw imo

[DPG21920]

So did the warriors tbh fwiw imo

No doubt. But in context that is why I”m saying the CP3 deal can’t just be judged on them reaching the WCF. They have to make ground up on Golden State and outside of a tremendous regular season and taking care of business they absolutely had to take care of in the playoffs vs weak opponents, this series vs GS is how things will be judged.

Don’t get me wrong; I’m not saying if they get killed that they were idiots for trying this. It was a great offseason for HOU and they looked great overall. But fair or not, it’s all about GS and even Morey said as much with regards to pushing to build something that can topple GS.

[spursistan]

This looks about to fall off a cliff, tbh

Outside a couple games against a Rubio-less Jazz, he's been overall underwhelming in this postseason. Would definitely look to keep Capela over him in the offseason if I were Morey..

[SpurOutofTownFan]

This looks about to fall off a cliff, tbh

Outside a couple games against a Rubio-less Jazz, he's been overall underwhelming in this postseason. Would definitely look to keep Capela over him in the offseason if I were Morey..

unbelievable the bullet the Spurs dodged there

[spursistan]

unbelievable the bullet the Spurs dodged there

Obviously beggars can't be choosers, but yeah, no way in he is worth 30 millions$ contract at age 33 with signs of decline already showing..

[Clipper Nation]

This looks about to fall off a cliff, tbh

Outside a couple games against a Rubio-less Jazz, he's been overall underwhelming in this postseason. Would definitely look to keep Capela over him in the offseason if I were Morey..

Thanks for gifting us Lou Williams and Montrezl Harrell, Rockets