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  1. #376
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    You can't manipulate the data to suit your agenda. You're being intellectually dishonest. The study ranked the sports by OVERALL scores, not by which sport "won" more categories. Basketball won more categories than football, but still ranks lower.

    Just take the L. This is a study you support full stop, so you also agree baseball is harder than soccer. So why the spin?
    Not manipulating the data, we can see baseball has an overall score of 0.75 over soccer yet soccer wins most category. That's fact.

    So let people draw their own conclusion.

    A game that is played daily versus other sports that are played every now and then.

    We both know about how NBA teams hate back-to-back games, unlike baseball.

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    Pretty weak spin, Webshad. You need to understand how a weighted scoring works. Let's use boxing as example. We're scouting two boxers.

    Boxer 1: 9 power, 9 speed, 9 chin, 9 defense, 1 stamina.

    Boxer 2: 9 power, 9 speed, 8 chin, 8 defense, 10 stamina.

    Boxer one "won" more categories, but only a moron would think Boxer 1 is the better overall fighter.

    It just pains you to admit baseball is harder than soccer, doesn't it

    Why are you biased? I'm curious.

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    Pretty weak spin, Webshad. You need to understand how a weighted scoring works. Let's use boxing as example. We're scouting two boxers.

    Boxer 1: 9 power, 9 speed, 9 chin, 9 defense, 1 stamina.

    Boxer 2: 9 power, 9 speed, 8 chin, 8 defense, 10 stamina.

    Boxer one "won" more categories, but only a moron would think Boxer 1 is the better overall fighter.

    It just pains you to admit baseball is harder than soccer, doesn't it

    Why are you biased? I'm curious.
    Honest to God, I'm not being biased. I could care less.

    That's a very bad mathematical comparison, pulp brain, hush.

    When Baseball has a overall score of 0.75 over soccer but in your example, you are using 1 vs 10. Come on!

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    Not manipulating the data, we can see baseball has an overall score of 0.75 over soccer yet soccer wins most category. That's fact.

    So let people draw their own conclusion.

    A game that is played daily versus other sports that are played every now and then.

    We both know about how NBA teams hate back-to-back games, unlike baseball.
    Yes you are manipulating the data. The study uses a weighted scoring system, not a "by category" system. You're spinning and being intellectually dishonest to avoid having to admit results of this study you don't like. That's unfair.

    And what's with the fixation on "playing every day?" There's more to sport difficulty than endurance. You can't workout the same muscle groups everyday, but there is nothing particularly difficult about lifting weights. You can run everyday, though

    Developing skills is much harder than the "physical" part of sports. Athleticism is the easy part. Learning a skill set is the hard part. And we know (as various scientific studies have shown), that hitting a 95-105 baseball is hardest routine action in sports.

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    Strategy in soccer is pretty underhyped
    Tbqh

    Thats why a weirdo like Lowe the german coach is such a goddam genius. Hes like rain man but his coaching skills
    Destroy anyone

    Meanwhine in lardassball they strategize on which fat man can reach the buffet table quickest so
    They can have a hearattack and get dibs on the helicopter to the emergency room

    Fat ing pieces of maggotfat

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    Honest to God, I'm not being biased. I could care less.

    That's a very bad mathematical comparison, pulp brain, hush.

    When Baseball has a overall score of 0.75 over soccer but in your example, you are using 1 vs 10. Come on!
    You are biased. You're happy with the results as it concerns boxing (when in fact, boxing is only .625 points ahead of hockey), but you quibble when a sport you don't like (baseball) ranks ahead of a sport you like.

    I honestly think football wasn't particularly difficult when I played since it's a game with highly specialized positions, meaning you don't have to develop a wide range of skills, and while the weight room demands are tough, it's not that draining on stamina either in game. But you don't see me quibbling that football ranks higher than baseball. If I'm going to accept baseball>soccer in this study, I have to accept football>baseball.

    That's called being consistent.

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    Yes you are manipulating the data. The study uses a weighted scoring system, not a "by category" system. You're spinning and being intellectually dishonest to avoid having to admit results of this study you don't like. That's unfair.

    And what's with the fixation on "playing every day?" There's more to sport difficulty than endurance. You can't workout the same muscle groups everyday, but there is nothing particularly difficult about lifting weights. You can run everyday, though

    Developing skills is much harder than the "physical" part of sports. Athleticism is the easy part. Learning a skill set is the hard part. And we know (as various scientific studies have shown), that hitting a 95-105 baseball is hardest routine action in sports.
    Did I ever claim that soccer had an overall better score than baseball? No.

    All I'm saying is baseball won by minute 0.75% yet soccer won more categories, that is fact.


    Now, baseball can be played daily, soccer can't. That's all. Let people decide what they want.

    All these homeboys like lefty, apalisoc, etc never claimed that baseball didn't require specialized talent, they are saying it has a lot of lazy moment that's why you can play it daily without it taking a toll on your body. The study also shows that.

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    Strategy in soccer is pretty underhyped
    Tbqh

    Thats why a weirdo like Lowe the german coach is such a goddam genius. Hes like rain man but his coaching skills
    Destroy anyone

    Meanwhine in lardassball they strategize on which fat man can reach the buffet table quickest so
    They can have a hearattack and get dibs on the helicopter to the emergency room

    Fat ing pieces of maggotfat
    Sorry to inform you, but none of the top baseball players are fat.

    While every soccer star has the body of a 12 year old kid. What the is this ?


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    I swore that I wasn't. I didn't claim any lie. Soccer wins more categories, baseball wins overall by 0.75%. That is no lie.




    weight room demands are tough
    I am strictly talking about the game itself. Because training is up to the individual and his body. I'm sure some baseball players are beasts, others aren't. Some boxers even train after they are retired, it's purely up to the individual.

    Mike Tyson didn't even train for the Douglas fight, he had too much money and distractions. It's purely up to the individual.

    And yes Hockey is A tough, our company has an amateur hockey team.

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    Did I ever claim that soccer had an overall better score than baseball? No.

    All I'm saying is baseball won by minute 0.75% yet soccer won more categories, that is fact.


    Now, baseball can be played daily, soccer can't. That's all. Let people decide what they want.

    All these homeboys like lefty, apalisoc, etc never claimed that baseball didn't require specialized talent, they are saying it has a lot of lazy moment that's why you can play it daily without it taking a toll on your body. The study also shows that.
    And there's more to sports than the kind of toll it takes on your body. Golf is easily the hardest sport I've played. Way higher learning curve than basketball, baseball, and football. And you can play it for hours everyday.

    Also, you shouldn't even mention categories won. The study doesn't rank the sports like that. You're just throwing it in there to try and manufacture a "win" for soccer.

    End of the day:

    Baseball: 62.250

    Soccer: 61.500

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    Sorry to inform you, but none of the top baseball players are fat.

    While every soccer star has the body of a 12 year old kid. What the is this ?
    I think you're mature enough to answer that question on your own.

    A marathon runner is skinny because his training regimen is different. Every sport has it's own training regimen.

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    And there's more to sports than the kind of toll it takes on your body. Golf is easily the hardest sport I've played. Way higher learning curve than basketball, baseball, and football. And you can play it for hours everyday.

    Also, you shouldn't even mention categories won. The study doesn't rank the sports like that. You're just throwing it in there to try and manufacture a "win" for soccer.

    End of the day:

    Baseball: 62.250

    Soccer: 61.500
    Yes and soccer wins more categories. FACT.

    And there's more to sports than the kind of toll it takes on your body. Golf is easily the hardest sport I've played. Way higher learning curve than basketball, baseball, and football. And you can play it for hours everyday.
    Yes because it doesn't deteriorate your body. Snooker also has a learning curve and can be played daily. So what.

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    I swore that I wasn't. I didn't claim any lie. Soccer wins more categories, baseball wins overall by 0.75%. That is no lie.






    I am strictly talking about the game itself. Because training is up to the individual and his body. I'm sure some baseball players are beasts, others aren't. Some boxers even train after they are retired, it's purely up to the individual.

    Mike Tyson didn't even train for the Douglas fight, he had too much money and distractions. It's purely up to the individual.

    And yes Hockey is A tough, our company has an amateur hockey team.
    The game of baseball is demanding. You focus on stamina too much.

    If you're an outfielder and you don't train everyday to maintain a top sprint speed and lateral quickness, you risk leaving a lot of runs on the field that should've been outs. On the offense side, if a batter doesn't work out his core everyday and also work on his sprinting, he risks losing his power and the ability to beat out groundballs and extend singles into extra basehits.

    Yeah it's up to the individual, but if the individual doesn't choose to put in the work off the field, he'll wash out. All those baseball fatties your crew likes to mention have comparatively bad metrics, since they can't chase down fly balls, beat out grounders, stretch extra basehits. They're one dimensional players who can sometimes hit for power, like a fat NBA big man who comes in to deliver some fouls and gran some boards.

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    Yes and soccer wins more categories. FACT.
    That fact is irrelevant because the study doesn't rank the sports that way.

    It ranks by overall score.

    so desperate to get soccer a "win."

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    The game of baseball is demanding. You focus on stamina too much.

    If you're an outfielder and you don't train everyday to maintain a top sprint speed and lateral quickness, you risk leaving a lot of runs on the field that should've been outs. On the offense side, if a batter doesn't work out his core everyday and also work on his sprinting, he risks losing his power and the ability to beat out groundballs and extend singles into extra basehits.

    Yeah it's up to the individual, but if the individual doesn't choose to put in the work off the field, he'll wash out. All those baseball fatties your crew likes to mention have comparatively bad metrics, since they can't chase down fly balls, beat out grounders, stretch extra basehits. They're one dimensional players who can sometimes hit for power, like a fat NBA big man who comes in to deliver some fouls and gran some boards.
    Sorry, that I can never agree.

    I believe my own eyes rather than your rhetorics. A game that is played for hours daily is not demanding on the body. We even have this Cal Ripken playing over 2500 consecutive games lol, only in baseball.

    Even the study shows that, soccer wins in endurance and durability.

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    That fact is irrelevant because the study doesn't rank the sports that way.

    It ranks by overall score.

    so desperate to get soccer a "win."
    Never claimed the opposite. What I stated still stands true, soccer wins more categories, baseball wins overall by 0.75%.

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    Never claimed the opposite. What I stated still stands true, soccer wins more categories, baseball wins overall by 0.75%.


    All that matters, bro.

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    180 games in a season

    Fatball is more demanding...:mad

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    180 games in a season

    Fatball is more demanding...:mad
    Cal Ripkin played 2600 consecutive baseball games They call him the "Ironman" hahahaha only in baseball.

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    All that matters, bro.
    Maybe to you, maybe not to others.

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    Goddamn this is a stupid debate, both sports suck ass. I'd rather watch a 9-ball tournament, or a ing poker tournament than either of these games. But at the very least, baseball requires some level of strategy. Soccer is just a bunch of malnourished third-worlders running around in an empty field kicking a ball and never scoring (until the game is over). That's why so many parents enroll their kids in soccer, literally the only prerequisite is being able to run. Who gives a flying which players are more fit? That doesn't make it any more fun to watch, unless you are sticking around for the encore in the locker room.

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    Maybe to you, maybe not to others.
    It should matter to everyone, since that's how the study was presented.

    The only people it "wouldn't matter" to are those who are biased.

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    180 games in a season

    Fatball is more demanding...:mad
    Yep. Per the scientific study your buddy Webshad backed. Baseball ranked 9 in difficulty, while Doublehandjoball ranked 10. Is what is, bro. Gotta respect science. .

    More to sports than jogging around.

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    It should matter to everyone, since that's how the study was presented.

    The only people it "wouldn't matter" to are those who are biased.
    The study was presented in categories and overall. So people can judge detailly.

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    Goddamn this is a stupid debate, both sports suck ass.[ I'd rather watch a 9-ball tournament, or a ing poker tournament than either of these games. But at the very least, baseball requires some level of strategy. Soccer is just a bunch of malnourished third-worlders running around in an empty field kicking a ball and never scoring (until the game is over). That's why so many parents enroll their kids in soccer, literally the only prerequisite is being able to run. Who gives a flying which players are more fit? That doesn't make it any more fun to watch, unless you are sticking around for the encore in the locker room.
    Indeed. I admit I can't help myself at times.

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