Duncan sounds off on the dress code

**Kori Ellis** · 10-20-2005

I have some questions. In the initial articles about the dress code it was repeatedly said, "it was part of the CBA negotiations this summer". I kept looking throughout the CBA and there's no mention of the dress code at all. So .. was this NOT approved by the player reps at all and just discussed between the owners and league? Or was it negotiated with the owners, player reps, and the league and just not part of the CBA?

Or what happened exactly?

Because a large part of many people's arguments (include my own at times) was that the players union approved it. Did they?

**spurs_fan_in_exile** · 10-20-2005

So would the Spurs have to be in long sleeves and sport coats for the championship parade down the Riverwalk? Is that an official event or is that strictly a team thing? Because if the Spurs repeat they're going to nothing but puddles by the time they get to the stadium.

What I think has pissed me off the most about this whole thing is that it's really so out of the blue. This marriage of hip hop culture and the NBA happened under Stern's watch after all, and NOW he's suddenly compelled to do something about it. What chaps my hide the most is that he's trying to clean up the image of the NBA but on three occasions in the last seven years he's been standing next to his answer. Only instead of pushing the Spurs to the forefront and holding them up as an example of the quality human beings in the league, he looks like he's sick to his stomach just to be saying the words "San Antonio" and "champion" in the same sentence.

You want to market the game to middle America? Don't piss off half of your employees with a stupid dress code that does jack for the problem-see what you can do about getting the Spurs some more air time, weed.

**Jimcs50** · 10-20-2005

So would the Spurs have to be in long sleeves and sport coats for the championship parade down the Riverwalk? Is that an official event or is that strictly a team thing? Because if the Spurs repeat they're going to nothing but puddles by the time they get to the stadium.

Damn, you people are a bunch of whiney es.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WEAR LONG SLEEVE DRESS SHIRTS, AND SPORTS COATS!!!

No torn jeans, no teeshirts. Just dress casual....what is so ing hard about that???? Do I wear torn jeans to work??? I own my own business and I can wear a freaking dress if I choose to, but I repect the job and I dress professionally....is that asking too much, seriously???????

**spurs_fan_in_exile** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

Damn, you people are a bunch of whiney es.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WEAR LONG SLEEVE DRESS SHIRTS, AND SPORTS COATS!!!

No torn jeans, no teeshirts. Just dress casual....what is so ing hard about that???? Do I wear torn jeans to work??? I own my own business and I can wear a freaking dress if I choose to, but I repect the job and I dress professionally....is that asking too much, seriously???????

Geez, Jim. Take a deep breath. I'm just trying to work out the details here to see how much forethought was actually put into this dress code. The more I find out the more it just seems slapped together and poorly planned. Sorry to put sand under your saddle.

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

I own my own business and I can wear a freaking dress if I choose to, but I repect the job and I dress professionally....

What the is so virtuous about dressing "professionally"? Why do we look more fondly upon uncomfortable clothing? It's such an archaic mindset.

And what if you had a boss that came in and suddenly required you to wear cornrows in your hair in order to attract more African American business, or some other awkward and condescending rule that goes against what you're used to?

**Jimcs50** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by spurs_fan_in_exile

Geez, Jim. Take a deep breath. I'm just trying to work out the details here to see how much forethought was actually put into this dress code. The more I find out the more it just seems slapped together and poorly planned. Sorry to put sand under your saddle.

sorry man.

I am just pissed off because I have to deal with apologizing for all the crap that NBA players do, because I love the NBA and so many white bigots hate the NBA because they think they are all just a bunch of rich black men who all travel with the ball nowadays, palm the ball and just play one on one, "what is in in for me, what can I do to get on Sports Center" stuff.

I always said that my Spurs are not like that, they are classy, they are old school, team first all for one, one for all...

And now, I will have to hear all about TD and his stupid remark to the world...it pisses me off.

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

I bet some of them put them on when they left the restaurant.

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

I am just pissed off because I have to deal with apologizing for all the crap that NBA players do, because I love the NBA and so many white bigots hate the NBA because they think they are all just a bunch of rich black men who all travel with the ball nowadays, palm the ball and just play one on one, "what is in in for me, what can I do to get on Sports Center" stuff.

And now you want the NBA to cave to those bigots?

This validates their bigotry. 'em.

**Jimcs50** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

What the is so virtuous about dressing "professionally"? Why do we look more fondly upon uncomfortable clothing? It's such an archaic mindset.

And what if you had a boss that came in and suddenly required you to wear cornrows in your hair in order to attract more African American business, or some other awkward and condescending rule that goes against what you're used to?

Spurm....you are just being ridiculous.

Keep it in perspective, for Godsake.

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

Spurm....you are just being ridiculous.

Keep it in perspective, for Godsake.

What's ridiculous about it?

**Kori Ellis** · 10-20-2005

The more I find out the more it just seems slapped together and poorly planned.

Why do you think that?

It seems like it was planned out pretty extensively to me. I just don't know who negotiated it.

**Jimcs50** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

And now you want the NBA to cave to those bigots?

This validates their bigotry. 'em.

Like it or not, in Texas, bigots are everywhere. I know, I hear all the time.

**Jimcs50** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

What's ridiculous about it?

comparing wearing dress jeans and collared shirt to having to wear cornrows is not ridiculous????

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

What's so hard about wearing cornrows?

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

Like it or not, in Texas, bigots are everywhere. I know, I hear all the time.

I'm aware of that. So why make rules meant to cater to their bigotry?

**Jimcs50** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

What's so hard about wearing cornrows?

Spurm, have you been up all night celebrating the Astros' win????

**spurs_fan_in_exile** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

sorry man.

I am just pissed off because I have to deal with apologizing for all the crap that NBA players do, because I love the NBA and so many white bigots hate the NBA because they think they are all just a bunch of rich black men who all travel with the ball nowadays, palm the ball and just play one on one, "what is in in for me, what can I do to get on Sports Center" stuff.

I always said that my Spurs are not like that, they are classy, they are old school, team first all for one, one for all...

And now, I will have to hear all about TD and his stupid remark to the world...it pisses me off.

Well I'm with you on everyone blowing Tim's comments out of proportion. They were clearly said in the heat of the moment (Tim called the policy "re ed". You think he really thought those words out?) There was a similar storm when he said "I don't wear a coat and tie" a week or two ago, but when you actually watched the interview he was clearly joking. Tim will be on the sidelines. He might not be happy about it, but he'll do what's right for the team. Anyone who would doubt the professionalism of Tim Duncan should be forced to wear a long sleeve shirt and sportcoat for eternity.

**nkdlunch** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

sorry man.

I am just pissed off because I have to deal with apologizing for all the crap that NBA players do, because I love the NBA and so many white bigots hate the NBA because they think they are all just a bunch of rich black men who all travel with the ball nowadays, palm the ball and just play one on one, "what is in in for me, what can I do to get on Sports Center" stuff.

I always said that my Spurs are not like that, they are classy, they are old school, team first all for one, one for all...

And now, I will have to hear all about TD and his stupid remark to the world...it pisses me off.

No matter if all NBA players start going to church and practice san y. Those white biggots will still hate the NBA. I don't understand why someone would apologize to them for the league.

**Jimcs50** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

I'm aware of that. So why make rules meant to cater to their bigotry?

Because those bigots spend millions of dollars on NBA sponcer companys, that is why.

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

Come on, man, you make good money. All your boss is asking you to do is get your hair done up in some rows. It'll help business.

**ShoogarBear** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

Damn, you people are a bunch of whiney es.

Definition of "whiny " by Jim and the other clothing Nazis:

"Someone who doesn't agree with me ... wahwahwah".

**Kori Ellis** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

comparing wearing dress jeans and collared shirt to having to wear cornrows is not ridiculous????

Just to keep things straight, Tim doesn't have a problem with the jeans/collared shirt part. He has a problem with the sportcoat/dress shoes part.

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

Because those bigots spend millions of dollars on NBA sponcer companys, that is why.

So ethics are determined by whoever can pay the most?

The NBA is in fine shape. It could do a lot to erode some of that bigotry if it wasn't so bent on sucking up to those who (sometimes unknowingly) practice it.

**ShoogarBear** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

Like it or not, in Texas, bigots are everywhere. I know, I hear all the time.

Well, you aren't covering yourself in glory with your takes here.

So, Jim should baseball players have a dress code?

**Jimcs50** · 10-20-2005

I don't understand why someone would apologize to them for the league.

Because I love the NBA and I wish everyone would give it a chance and not just read about the negative crap that is so prevalent in the sports headlines. I mean, this TD quote is getting 100 times the play that DRob's 5 million dollar donation to the Carver Academy did....that is what we have to deal with...that is a fact of life. One stupid ill thought out remark can erase all the great selfless efforts of his predecessors...Is that fair? No, but it is a fact.

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