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    What's left? Like 3M, right? About what he's making overseas now. Might be enough, along with the chance to play NBA minutes, to get him over here.

    Edit: his caphold is only 1.47M
    BAE is 3.38M
    MLE is 2.76M partially used on Marco
    Btw, does his 1M buyout count against the MLE? No, right?
    Milutinov is not eligible for the BAE because if he doesn't sign to his scale deal it has to be at least three years in length, and the BAE is only two.

    The amount the Spurs can pay towards his buyout, 700k, is separate from any contract.

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    Robert Covington? The career 40% fg shooter?
    he takes like 6 3's a game, that is why,

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    What's left? Like 3M, right? About what he's making overseas now. Might be enough, along with the chance to play NBA minutes, to get him over here.

    Edit: his caphold is only 1.47M
    BAE is 3.38M
    MLE is 2.76M partially used on Marco
    I would think if Militinov does come over, he would take the remaining balance of the MLE on a 3 year deal

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    This roster is scary bad. Sacramento kings bad.

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    No telling what uncle Dennis might do if the Spurs don't trade him by training camp. There is a non zero chance that Kawhi doesn't report, then what? They fine and then ,maybe, suspend? That lowers the Spurs leverage and creates an even bigger circus. I think some version of that deal gets done; the Spurs get two cheap starters and 3 extra picks and Philly gets a super star that may or may not be healthy and may not even stay. There is risk on both sides for sure.
    If he's not going to report he has to retire then and forfeit that $20.9 million he's due. Otherwise the Spurs can hold his rights for another year. Spurs need to play the same hardball Leonard's group is playing. The way I see it someone is going to have to pay a lot for Leonard. Whether it's another team having to give the Spurs a good prospect or whether it's Leonard sitting out a season of his prime and losing that $20.9 million, someone is going to have to pay a large price. You don't give away a player like that. Even the Sixers got Hornacek when they traded Barkley in one of the most lopsided deals in NBA history. The Spurs would get nothing close to that kind of return with Saric and a bunch of crap.

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    Spurs have to be arranging a trade. It’s about all that makes sense at this point.
    Same. Mills and Leonard with Mills probably going to a third team that can absorb his salary.

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    So 3 1 dimensional player signing in a row. I would not be surprised if LMA has a mysterious season ending injury or asks to be traded.

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    Milutinov is not eligible for the BAE because if he doesn't sign to his scale deal it has to be at least three years in length, and the BAE is only two.

    The amount the Spurs can pay towards his buyout, 700k, is separate from any contract.

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    So 3 1 dimensional player signing in a row. I would not be surprised if LMA has a mysterious season ending injury or asks to be traded.
    As long as he's getting his touches he don't care tbh.

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    As long as he's getting his touches he don't care tbh.

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    Well, the Spurs won't be able to sign both Metu and Milutinov now that they signed yet another guard to take up a roster spot. That was my entire point.
    Thats not true at all.

    Spurs are far from done.

    They are talking to teams about Mills & Pau still.

    Manu could retire.

    Theyll let Paul walk too.

    Spurs just need 3 true bigs since they plan on playing Bertans & Gay at the 4.

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    This roster is scary bad. Sacramento kings bad.
    They expect Lamarcus and Kawhi to carry them.

    I am assuming they are supermaxing Kawhi. If he gets nags in that hamstring again, watch the Hobbit platoon.

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    wasn't there a photo of Kawhi with Rudy, Danny, Forbes, DJ. Am glad we are bringing all those guys back. Before you hate Bryn, don't forget he played well of us last year until he ran out of gas towards the end of the season. Which is reasonable since he played in summer league and didn't really take a break last summer.
    oh wow ! A glimpse of sense on ST.

    Forbes played well at the start of the season (everybody was calling for more minutes for him) until he hit some kind of rookie wall. When your legs and breath aren't there anymore, your shoot disappear too.

    There's also the contract factor.He was playing loose at the start of the season but the closer to the end of the season for 2nd/3rd string players like him, the more you think about your future in the league and if you'll get a contract. Not good to think too much for a shooter.

    Not saying he's Steph 2.0 but let see what he'll give in his second year with the Spurs, with more corporate knowledge and confidence now that he's before judging his real value.

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    Awful...this roster is garbage...

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    So 3 1 dimensional player signing in a row. I would not be surprised if LMA has a mysterious season ending injury or asks to be traded.
    They had no money to sign anyone better than Gay & Bertans. Green opted in, Forbes is likely for peanuts (2.5 mil) and a 1+1 deal too.

    Marco bugs me more because they used the only thing they had to bring another piece (most of the MLE) on him. What I do like about it, is that its only 6 mil per and a 1+1 deal. If Spurs season goes south, or if they have no legitimate shot, or if Derrick/ Lonnie/ Hart? make Marco and or Danny expendabe, then Spurs will have two attractive players to dangle to contenders around the trade deadline -- Danny & Marco. Spurs could get two late 1st round picks for both.

    Spurs did pretty solid for not having any cap space, and at the same time, they are maintaining optimal flexibility moving forward w them being short managable 1 yr & 1+1 deals.

    Now if they went out and gave Gay, Bertans, and Marco 3-4 yr deals then Id agree with your disapproval.

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    ^^^^ this

    People are having such a hard time understanding that with the Kawhi saga this entire offseason has shifted from possibly making a big splash in FA to trying to maintain maximum flexibility as they figure out what they are going to do going forward.

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    If he's not going to report he has to retire then and forfeit that $20.9 million he's due. Otherwise the Spurs can hold his rights for another year. Spurs need to play the same hardball Leonard's group is playing. The way I see it someone is going to have to pay a lot for Leonard. Whether it's another team having to give the Spurs a good prospect or whether it's Leonard sitting out a season of his prime and losing that $20.9 million, someone is going to have to pay a large price. You don't give away a player like that. Even the Sixers got Hornacek when they traded Barkley in one of the most lopsided deals in NBA history. The Spurs would get nothing close to that kind of return with Saric and a bunch of crap.
    I don't think he'd actually sit out the entire season, but it would cause a even bigger hit to his rep, Dwight still hasn't recovered from his Orlando exit- up to that point, he was actually one of the more popular players in the league (that feels like 20 years ago ).

    I floated an alternative theory; that the Spurs are dragging their feet until near training camp, in which Kawhi's group gets antsy about having to report, so they put external pressure on the Lakers to acquire him, or he'll "consider" signing elsewhere next off season.

    In that case; Ingram, Hart, Kuzma, and 2 first, to San Antonio, Lonzo to Orlando or Phoenix and another player coming back to the Spurs.

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    I think this is a safety net in the event of a Mills trade. Shooters are always welcome... they just need to make their shots. Oh and don't shoot less than 70% on free throws.
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    I think this is a safety net in the event of a Mills trade. Shooters are always welcome... they just need to make their shots. Oh and don't shoot less than 70% on free throws.
    Yeah, wtf is it with his free throws, anyway?? Kid needs to be hitting 90%+

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    Yeah, wtf is it with his free throws, anyway?? Kid needs to be hitting 90%+
    Yips. I think he will be better this season.

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    Don't remember this being talked about much, but apparently Bryn was locked up in a custody battle for his two kids last season.

    Article doesn't say if it ever got worked out, but I could definitely see that being a distraction which affected his play. Dude's Instagram is full of pictures of his two boys.

    Last season really was a doozie for the whole team emotionally.

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    Pops clealry has a hardon for this kid
    All the rookie vs sop re but I never understood why Pop played him more minutes than White last season.

    Anyway, I still think Bryn can improve his game.

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    Don't remember this being talked about much, but apparently Bryn was locked up in a custody battle for his two kids last season.

    Article doesn't say if it ever got worked out, but I could definitely see that being a distraction which affected his play. Dude's Instagram is full of pictures of his two boys.

    Last season really was a doozie for the whole team emotionally.
    Didn't know this about the custody battle. Thanks for posting!

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    The custody battle is ugly. They were never married so the Mom didn’t have any child support for them and Forbes grabbed them from Michigan and took them with him to SA without her consent. It sounds painful however you put it.

    He also said in one interview I remember that he hit a wall last season. He had never played that many minutes in so many important games. It was really draining. Anyways I don’t really expect any improvements if Pop keeps playing him in overmatched lineups but perhaps he can be a more consistent scorer.

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    They had no money to sign anyone better than Gay & Bertans. Green opted in, Forbes is likely for peanuts (2.5 mil) and a 1+1 deal too.

    Marco bugs me more because they used the only thing they had to bring another piece (most of the MLE) on him. What I do like about it, is that its only 6 mil per and a 1+1 deal. If Spurs season goes south, or if they have no legitimate shot, or if Derrick/ Lonnie/ Hart? make Marco and or Danny expendabe, then Spurs will have two attractive players to dangle to contenders around the trade deadline -- Danny & Marco. Spurs could get two late 1st round picks for both.

    Spurs did pretty solid for not having any cap space, and at the same time, they are maintaining optimal flexibility moving forward w them being short managable 1 yr & 1+1 deals.

    Now if they went out and gave Gay, Bertans, and Marco 3-4 yr deals then Id agree with your disapproval.
    the gay deal isn't being heavily criticized. he's on a 1 year deal and as you said, we didnt have the cap room to sign other players. green opting in was out of our control, but again, that's only a 1 year thing in an offseason where we didnt have cap room

    i'd rather have signed bertans for 1/10 than 2/14.5. because next season our cap space is actually going to matter. 4/20 was a fine deal. the new one is . we overpay a guy for 2 years and then he can just walk.

    this is why, as you said, people dont like the marco deal. he eats into our cap next season when it matters.

    the forbes signing is more about roster redundancy than anything. he's a below average player who mimics the role of patty mills but does it much much worse. based on the role he was undeservedly granted last year, there are legit concerns he is going to take minutes from guys who otherwise would need them like white

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