This isn't true.
Then you should check your pants. I see very little on either side of the isle worth advocating for. None of these people, right or left, work for the best interest of the public. They do for themselves and for the party that protects them.
This isn't true.
You are right us healthcare is poor. Many of them endorse this scare....
You have no clue wtf you are talking about...we have a huge social safety net in Medicare and Medicaid and literally anyone can walk into an emergency room and be treated.
Go ahead and believe that. 44% of Americans don’t go to the doctor for financial reasons. Heard of copay, deductible, out of pocket...
https://www.google.fr/amp/s/amp.dail...doctors-visits
LOL. I finally found out what the deal was with not using those foreign test kits. They were giving up to 48% false negatives. In retrospect, maybe it would have been better to use them anyway. But in general, bad results are as bad or worse than no results in situations, because people make bad decisions with confidence. People say, "Well, I'm okay" and go mingle.
I also just saw that they threw a bunch of into the coronavirus aid package that had nothing to do with coronavirus. That's what I'm talking about politicizing a damn virus. Have those battles somewhere else, some other time. I hate ing politicians. All of them.
About half the times I go to a pharmacy, someone ahead of me finds out the price on a prescription they are picking up and says, "I don't want it". It was bad before, but it got worse after they implemented Obamacare because they made deals to get the pharmaceutical companies on board. The biggest drug for MS is Copaxone. It had been out for over a decade, so the price should have been going down. The month before Obamacare went into effect, they raised the price from about $4,000 per month to over $6,000 per month. No reason for that kind of increase, other than they were given permission.
Lots of healthcare talk so I'll toss in what I know. Before ACA we spent 11% of the GDP on healthcare. Today we spend 17% of the GDP on healthcare. We were ranked 32 in the world regarding healthcare and now we are ranked 34. Over this time insurance companies have tripled their profits while wages for the grunt medical workers like LPNs/LVNs have barely budged in 30 years. To put the spending into perspective we spent 6% on all of education prior to ACA and now we spend 7%. Military spending remains at 4-5%.
For me, these facts say that we do not have a money problem with healthcare we have a practice problem. What we have learned is the more money we throw at healthcare the more healthcare will cost. One of the primary drivers is the practice of litigious medicine. Awarded lawsuits are a fraction of the cost. It is the practice of ordering everything under the sun to prevent a lawsuit that is the problem. Billions of dollars go to waste ordering tests that are not necessary. I would like to see %120 payment for those tests that are positive and 30% payment for those tests that are negative. Insurance companies do not bring a whole lot to the table other than getting doctors to accept lower payments. The government could do the same thing. Regarding pharmacy, I really do believe that the government should get into the research and manufacturing business of drugs. We cannot rely on a private sector that gets 80% of its product from China. All the pharmacy maker is, is a distributor. They can continue to distribute but they would have to buy from a government factory.
Now I do not believe in socialism, but I do know that the issue of healthcare is a matter of national security and the management and distribution of it has gotten completely out of control. Maybe we need to go back to public owned county hospitals that provides a free education to those who graduate and serve the hospital for 10 years. There are many things we can do to make it better for everyone. No one on the left or the right seems to be able to think this way today.
I guess there’s millions of unknown deaths that are because of the corona virus
woke up, we’re at 50 deaths in a country of 320million+. Maybe things are better here because the USA isn’t a hole like most of Western Europe.
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If only the rest of America would understand this is a political and stupidity issue, not a health issue
People today are so dumb they need a positive flu test to make them practice good hygiene... twitter heroes
I love that you are showing how dumb and stupid you are and you don't even see it, hilarious. Keep it up champ, we love to see idiots like you. It fulfills all the stereotype![]()
a classic brain dead nonresponse from one of our resident ST euro s
careful breathing outside, your abysmal public health measures obviously aren’t working
currently banned from the USA![]()
and he continue showing his stupidity, love it. You probably cannot even place European countries on a map like a vast majority of your countrymen, education in the "best" country in the world
Do you realize that only 14000 people have been tested in the "best" country in the world for coronavirus? You are better than Turkey , good job https://www.worldometers.info/corona...id-19-testing/ Such a great country
Go try to make america great again since apparently it is not great according to your own catch phrase MAGA![]()
Infamous historic words on COVID from POTUS.
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 13: "I am officially declaring a national emergency, two very big words."
and:
“I don’t take responsibility at all"
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dude has the vernacular of a ing 8 year old. No wonder so many of you inbred troglodytes love fellating him
Here we go. This is what came from using those ty false-negative tests:
In Guangdong, officials responsible for the coronavirus response announced Feb. 25 that 14% of declared recoveries in the province had later retested positive.
Scientists in and outside China agree that reinfection is a highly unlikely explanation for the patients who retest positive. They say testing errors are more likely to blame — either false negatives that resulted in patients being discharged too early, or false positives when they retested and were taken back into hospital... When a person gets sick with any kind of viral infection, their immune system naturally develops antibodies that should protect them from contracting the illness again after they’ve recovered.
Much of what you say about our poor healthcare system is true and that's why it's such a big issue this election. All our citizens need health insurance and the majority of Americans believe that, and will be voting accordingly. As for 'anyone can go into an emergency room and be treated' that is true. The bill they will receive will be for thousands of dollars and they won't quit hounding you. Note that all of the people who can't afford health insurance are the last to be able to afford emergency room visits. The testing for coronavirus has been abysmal, truly horrific. The fact that the current administration dismantled the U.S. pandemic response team (which there is ample evidence stating they indeed did this despite the denials) was also a big reason for our big delay in testing. That and the efforts to not test where 'the numbers' wouldn't look bad (this is sadly true as well). Then of course it's the 'new hoax' claims were imbecilic and very dangerous. I hope everyone gets through this and the impact around the world is far less than expected. Healthcare matters.
To add on, all the "growth" in healthcare has not been in people providing the care, i.e. physicians, nurses, PA, MAs, etc. Its all been administrative burden and billing. I saw a chart the other day that the healthcare industry added 940,000 jobs in the past 10 years. None are actually involved in delivering healthcare.
Obama made deals with the hospitals and insurance companies to get the ACA to pass. It pushed physicians out of ownership/leadership roles and moved the power to the insurance companies and hospitals.
Same crap is occuring now with surprise billing. Some of it is from private equity groups which have entered the space like Envision and Teamhealth which have abused the opting out of plans. But now insurance companies are doing it on purpose to get more people angry about surprise bills. United is especially bad at this. They are pushing doctors out of network without notifying both the doctors and patients! They want there insured patients to get upset at the doctors and push for the surprise billing fix. Most doctors don't want to surprise bill, its the only tool we have left to to negotiate with insurance companies. They are better served having a negotiated rate with insurance companies.
Power is consolidating into mega corporations. I'm hoping that this bear market and recession? creates such a credit crunch that some of these en ies suffer and go out of business.
wow!
trump s really drank the orange turds kool-aid -
too bad it wasnt poison - so they could all die off now and...
MAGA!
What is the koolaid? That this is overblown? It is. That is all
You included no source. I'm calling BS unless you're meaning say 1990 when you say before the ACA. The ACA only exists because America was fed up with runaway healthcare costs in the decade leading up the ACA's passage. The ACA sucks, you won't get any argument out of me there, but let's not pretend ty American healthcare began with it.
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FDR told the country "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself". He went on to talk about "nameless, unreasoning fear which paralyze efforts..." We've got people in stores having fist fights over toilet paper - as if they could eat it if necessary.
People like you would actually like it if things went to , just to confirm your hate. And I have to admit, it's people like you who make it hard for me not to think that the planet really does need a good enema.
If we had a leader like FDR we wouldn't have nearly as much to fear from this pandemic.
Tolerance and death wishes from the left.
And trump is the divisive one....? Ok?
will you drink the poison when trump orders you to?
yes or no?
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