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    It's not stutters.
    This you putting your doctor cap on for the day? It's stutters unless stated otherwise.

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    This you putting your doctor cap on for the day? It's stutters unless stated otherwise.
    I'll take my Dr cap over yours. He said himself his verbal gaffes weren't stutters but he hasn't consulted you I suppose.

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    it's an endgame in at least two senses:

    For the GOP, which is scarely any longer a conservative party, but is instead an anti-democratic and nationalist one, with overtones of Bonapartism and herrenvolk democracy; it's the party of Trump and will be for some time. Rather than being defined by ideas or values, everything boils down to loyalty to one man, plus disgust for multiracial democracy. Goodbye, traditional GOP.

    It might also be an endgame for democracy/republicanism as it is colloquially and normatively understood by Americans. The GOP is laying the groundwork to overturn future elections if Democrats win again. The Jan. 6th putsch was a dry run.

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    it's an endgame in at least two senses:

    For the GOP, which is scarely any longer a conservative party, but is instead an anti-democratic and nationalist one, with overtones of Bonapartism and herrenvolk democracy; it's the party of Trump and will be for some time. Rather than being defined by ideas or values, everything boils down to loyalty to one man, plus disgust for multiracial democracy. Goodbye, traditional GOP.

    It might also be an endgame for democracy/republicanism as it is colloquially and normatively understood by Americans. The GOP is laying the groundwork to overturn future elections if Democrats win again. The Jan. 6th putsch was a dry run.
    I think this is a short sighted opinion, driven mostly by recency bias. Trump no longer has power in the federal government. The GOP's best hope is that he's convicted of something so he cannot run for office again, and the opposition has been trying to do that since he announced he's running for office. The democratic party has moved too far left, at least those who get the most face time with media have, and the "cancel culture" is so pervasive in social media now that the right has developed an antibody for it to the extreme right, or at least that's who gets the most face time with the media. Many on the right will say those extreme left personalities represent the left, and many on the left will say the same about the right. They will both say that the moderates might not espouse the same beliefs but they will not condemn them either so they are basically condoning the extremism through just going along for the ride.

    Until someone on each side steps up and makes a stand in their own party, the fringe groups will continue being the most active. I'm afraid the lifers want no part of it though, they want a fat retirement and "don't rock the boat" until then.

    You keep using "putsch". You seem fixated on it. What happened on the 6th wasn't an attempt to overthrow the federal government. I know you want to keep finding new words to make the same hyperbolic statements but that one has run it's course already.

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    Was the Beer Hall Putsch an attempt to overthrow the Weimar Republic or was it just a prelude?

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    Is there anything in the Cons ution that would keep Trump from running for POTUS from prison?

    I don't think there is.

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    Is there anything in the Cons ution that would keep Trump from running for POTUS from prison?

    I don't think there is.
    There isn't, AFAIK.

    Eugene Debs got 3.4% of the vote in 1920, while in prison.

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    There isn't, AFAIK.

    Eugene Debs got 3.4% of the vote in 1920, while in prison.
    Yeah, LaRouche got a few thousand votes in 1992. Was on the ballot in 17 states.

    Trump would make it in all 50.

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    I think this is a short sighted opinion, driven mostly by recency bias. Trump no longer has power in the federal government. The GOP's best hope is that he's convicted of something so he cannot run for office again, and the opposition has been trying to do that since he announced he's running for office. The democratic party has moved too far left, at least those who get the most face time with media have, and the "cancel culture" is so pervasive in social media now that the right has developed an antibody for it to the extreme right, or at least that's who gets the most face time with the media. Many on the right will say those extreme left personalities represent the left, and many on the left will say the same about the right. They will both say that the moderates might not espouse the same beliefs but they will not condemn them either so they are basically condoning the extremism through just going along for the ride.

    Until someone on each side steps up and makes a stand in their own party, the fringe groups will continue being the most active. I'm afraid the lifers want no part of it though, they want a fat retirement and "don't rock the boat" until then.

    You keep using "putsch". You seem fixated on it. What happened on the 6th wasn't an attempt to overthrow the federal government. I know you want to keep finding new words to make the same hyperbolic statements but that one has run it's course already.
    That's a frilly and somewhat rambling both sides take, and not a very convincing one.

    The GOP are the extremist radicals.

    The Dems are center right and functionally the conservative guardians of the mainstream republican values the GOP is trying to blow up.

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    That's a frilly and somewhat rambling both sides take, and not a very convincing one.

    The GOP are the extremist radicals.

    The Dems are center right and functionally the conservative guardians of the mainstream republican values the GOP is trying to blow up.


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    There is neither a socialist nor a worker’s party in the USA. No functional left, as such

    Once upon a time we had two center right, pro-business parties, now there is only one.

    The GOP is authoritarian and fascistic, tbh.

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    Joe Biden, Joe Manchin, Kyrsten Sinema, Diane Feinstein. Your democratic front faces.

    Wipe that re ed smile off your face.

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    There is neither a socialist nor a worker’s party in the USA. No functional left, as such

    Once upon a time we had two center right, pro-business parties, now there is only one.

    The GOP is authoritarian and fascistic, tbh.


    Whatever you say, boutons.

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    Darrin has no actual counter argument.

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    Darrin has no actual counter argument.
    stands pat on his priors, without showing his hand.

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    He's going to stick with the "Democratic = full Marxist and nothing else" party line he has been fed.

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    There is neither a socialist nor a worker’s party in the USA. No functional left, as such

    Once upon a time we had two center right, pro-business parties, now there is only one.

    The GOP is authoritarian and fascistic, tbh.

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    Was the Beer Hall Putsch an attempt to overthrow the Weimar Republic or was it just a prelude?
    No idea and I'm not going to start caring just because you asked.

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    That's a frilly and somewhat rambling both sides take, and not a very convincing one.

    The GOP are the extremist radicals.

    The Dems are center right and functionally the conservative guardians of the mainstream republican values the GOP is trying to blow up.
    When someone is as slanted as you are, of course any take that examines the political landscape instead of focusing on the "other side" is petty, 50% wasteful.

    You just illustrated in your response what I said in my post - one side thinks the other side's main component is extremism.

    By the way, it's 7pm. Are you faced again yet?

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    No idea and I'm not going to start caring just because you asked.
    Jan. 6th was a violent attack on the US government to prevent the orderly transfer of power. what would you call that?

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    Jan. 6th was a violent attack on the US government to prevent the orderly transfer of power. what would you call that?
    Not an attempt to overthrow the government. Their leader was already in office

    Were they going to overthrow Trump?

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    of course it was. A significant number of those people would've murdered Pence and members of Congress to overthrow the newly elected government to keep Trump in power.

    DMC is dishonest.

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    When someone is as slanted as you are, of course any take that examines the political landscape instead of focusing on the "other side" is petty, 50% wasteful.

    You just illustrated in your response what I said in my post - one side thinks the other side's main component is extremism.

    By the way, it's 7pm. Are you faced again yet?
    No, thanks for asking, though.

    That you can't see the GOP's rapid turn to anti-democratic extremism discloses how blinkered you are by your own facile both sides framing, tbh

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    I think this is a short sighted opinion, driven mostly by recency bias. Trump no longer has power in the federal government. The GOP's best hope is that he's convicted of something so he cannot run for office again, and the opposition has been trying to do that since he announced he's running for office. The democratic party has moved too far left, at least those who get the most face time with media have, and the "cancel culture" is so pervasive in social media now that the right has developed an antibody for it to the extreme right, or at least that's who gets the most face time with the media. Many on the right will say those extreme left personalities represent the left, and many on the left will say the same about the right. They will both say that the moderates might not espouse the same beliefs but they will not condemn them either so they are basically condoning the extremism through just going along for the ride.

    Until someone on each side steps up and makes a stand in their own party, the fringe groups will continue being the most active. I'm afraid the lifers want no part of it though, they want a fat retirement and "don't rock the boat" until then.

    You keep using "putsch". You seem fixated on it. What happened on the 6th wasn't an attempt to overthrow the federal government. I know you want to keep finding new words to make the same hyperbolic statements but that one has run it's course already.
    Trump has an entire party pledging allegiance to him under threat of being purged, lol at the idea he has no power in the federal government. Also lol at the party of Biden, Clinton, Shumer, Feinstein, and Pelosi being too far left.

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    Trump has an entire party pledging allegiance to him under threat of being purged, lol at the idea he has no power in the federal government. Also lol at the party of Biden, Clinton, Shumer, and Pelosi being too far left.
    I would say Bill Gates has no power in the federal government as well because he holds no official position in the federal government but we both know billionaires have a lot of influence with congress. Influence with and power in are two different things.

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