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    Mr. Body tell us again how bad Reed Sheppard sucks

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    Really bummed we couldn't get Reed. He was my #1 for this draft.
    You’d have started a game thread and gotten him injured.

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    You’d have started a game thread and gotten him injured.
    But still, having him on the roster would've been

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    Interesting tidbit from an Express-News podcast:

    This is an information that helps anybody now, but I just found it interesting the way the Spurs viewed the top of that draft. And it goes like this, if they had had the first pick, and this surprised me because we spend so much time talking about the draft and we kind of didn't really talk about this name, but if they'd had the top pick, they would have absolutely taken Alex Sarr with the top pick.

    Alex Sarr, went to the Washington Wizards with the number two pick.

    We wondered about his fit and blah, blah, blah. They thought if they ended up with Alex Sarr, all the others, like just they pictured him as like a bigger, better Jeremy Sochan that maybe they could teach to do the offensive stuff. Like the defense and the mobility would be just worth it, especially in a draft like this where everyone has flaws.

    If they'd had the second pick or if the choice had been Castle or Reed Sheppard at four, they would have gone Reed Sheppard probably. Probably just because of the shooting. And then Castle was the guy that I guess probably would have been third on their board.

    So they got the third guy on their board at pick number four.

    Not a lot of interest in Risacher that went first overall. Like it'd be interesting, I don't know what they'd have done if those first three guys had been gone one through two, three, and Risacher was there at number four, but weren't quite sold on him, I don't think. So all that was interesting, but I was a little surprised that they were, it was like a no-brainer that you take Sarr number one if they had had the pick.

    Risacher was a guy who really rose, like two months before the draft, you look at the mocks, and he was like eight, nine, 10, then that range, and maybe it wasn't two months. It was not long before the draft. During the last season, I don't think anybody thought he was number one.

    He had kind of this surge because of the way he finished his season overseas, and I tend to be kind of skeptical of those overnight risers, and sounds like the Spurs might have been too.
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-new-look-lineup-around-wemby/id1344226066?i=1000662457778

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    Watching the Rockets TWolves game. My first view of pro Reed, Dilly etc.

    Sheppard Sniffers have overated. He does show promise but as posted he's not going to get near as many these cushy looks in the regular season.

    Tonight for each good play he has made, and his running midrange jumper is impressive.....he gets his pushed in -badly. Blocked or stolen.

    I'd take Ron Holland before Reed Shepard.

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    watched the dilli vs reed matchup... both seem to have legitimate pg skills, but i wouldn't have them in the rotation on any team tbh.. at least 9 months away from being reasonable to play them, and they both look really small.

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    Interesting tidbit from an Express-News podcast:


    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-new-look-lineup-around-wemby/id1344226066?i=1000662457778
    Whatever you think of him, Risacher has been projected #1 (top 3) all year long. He didn't rise the last two months

    And I like how he affirms stuff before saying... "I think". That's just a guy assuming stuff without any insight or information, however he's right or wrong, like anyone of us here... I also beleive Spurs were after Sheppard, but what do I know?

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    watched the dilli vs reed matchup... both seem to have legitimate pg skills, but i wouldn't have them in the rotation on any team tbh.. at least 9 months away from being reasonable to play them, and they both look really small.
    I see value in both.

    Dillingham will be what the Wolves want him to be, a bench scorer and playmaker who changes the pace of games. They'll hope he can be hidden on defense, because he's terrible.

    Sheppard is playable right from the start as a connector and box score threat. A team will have to account for him, leaving the better players more opportunities and space, which is what Houston will want.

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    Whatever you think of him, Risacher has been projected #1 (top 3) all year long. He didn't rise the last two months

    And I like how he affirms stuff before saying... "I think". That's just a guy assuming stuff without any insight or information, however he's right or wrong, like anyone of us here... I also beleive Spurs were after Sheppard, but what do I know?
    What mocks? Risacher had a lot of variation in mocks. Some might have had him #1, but it wasn't universal at all.

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    With Sheppards vertical leap and running jumper skills.....

    With a whole lot of work and needing to have heart

    Does he have Manu GNob potential?

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    i still dont have it in me to cleanly decide between Reed and Dilly as my PG1 in this draft (though both are cleanly above Castle to me). ive leaned one way or another for a couple of months now and still cant make my mind up. id be thrilled with either at 4.
    Some people were not high on Castle.

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    Some people were not high on Castle.
    I pretty consistently had him in the top 6 and that's where he finished for me. He has a shot to be the best player in that draft.

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    Some people were not high on Castle.
    i liked castle. just not as much as the other guys i mentioned. on my board that i shared here i had him in tier 2 of guys id be satisfied at taking at #4

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    Projected at 50% chance of getting the ROTY, currently averaging 3.3pts.

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    My opinion on Sheppard has not changed one ounce. I thought he would really struggle getting separation, as he struggled even against college athletes. He would be a poor defender, since he was a poor defender in college. He would have games where he'd go off, but wasn't able to generate his own points. Terrific hands, but gets bodied and too slow to stay in front of people.

    I was never sure why people coronated him as so good. I think within certain schema he will be a very solid player.

    Stephon Castle to me was the best player in the draft and I barely had a second place.

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    I'm ready to eat crow already with Castle. His jumpshot needs work, certainly, and that's what mainly turned me away from supporting him whole-heartedly.

    That said, everything but Sheppard's jumpshot needs work. Not saying he's bad exactly, or even not worth the 3rd pick (yet). Just that he's not going to shine nearly as brightly as Castle in the immediate future.

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    Sheppard was never going to get a ton of burn this year, Ime is trying to make the playoffs so no time to showcase a rookie at a position they have plenty of bodies at already

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    My opinion on Sheppard has not changed one ounce. I thought he would really struggle getting separation, as he struggled even against college athletes. He would be a poor defender, since he was a poor defender in college. He would have games where he'd go off, but wasn't able to generate his own points. Terrific hands, but gets bodied and too slow to stay in front of people.

    I was never sure why people coronated him as so good. I think within certain schema he will be a very solid player.

    Stephon Castle to me was the best player in the draft and I barely had a second place.
    yeah you were in on Castle for sure. rascal as well

    you were also quite high on dillingham as well (so was i)

    i had risacher - sarr - sheppard - dillingham as my top 4, with castle in the next tier along with Holland (who has predictably looked quite raw)

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    I really liked Castle too, but with this draft even with liking guys, I still had serious concerns and worries. Castle has looked great and has done many things better early than I expected but tbh my worry was with his shot and of course we still will have questions there until he can prove he can shoot the 3 ball at a solid clip.

    But I loved Castle in the context of who was available but I also really like Reed (especially because I lean on models/numbers and his were off charts as a shooter which is something SA needs badly). But even with him or Sarr or Risacher there were and still are obviously major questions about them all. But Im thrilled we ended up with Castle (I wanted Reed and Castle tbh..)

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    I really liked Castle too, but with this draft even with liking guys, I still had serious concerns and worries. Castle has looked great and has done many things better early than I expected but tbh my worry was with his shot and of course we still will have questions there until he can prove he can shoot the 3 ball at a solid clip.

    But I loved Castle in the context of who was available but I also really like Reed (especially because I lean on models/numbers and his were off charts as a shooter which is something SA needs badly). But even with him or Sarr or Risacher there were and still are obviously major questions about them all. But Im thrilled we ended up with Castle (I wanted Reed and Castle tbh..)
    After Dillingham's weight came in lower than advertised yeah I just wanted one of Castle or Sheppard at #4 too. Leaned a little bit Castle in that he's probably who I would have taken if say someone traded up with Houston to get Clingan but would have been happy with Sheppard too if Castle got taken third. I think they're both going to be really high quality role players, with low end all star potential on the table.

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    After Dillingham's weight came in lower than advertised yeah I just wanted one of Castle or Sheppard at #4 too. Leaned a little bit Castle in that he's probably who I would have taken if say someone traded up with Houston to get Clingan but would have been happy with Sheppard too if Castle got taken third. I think they're both going to be really high quality role players, with low end all star potential on the table.
    Ya - I have not changed my opinion on Reed at all - why would I it’s only been a few games and his situation (team trying to win) is much different than Spurs.

    But I will say even with the shot concerns I have with Castle, the fact hes able to defend so well so fast and process the game so well and passes FAR better than I thought? I think he has legit all star potential (even if he never makes an AS team, he will be a winning type player that is deserving of that le is what Im saying)

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    I only caught a little bit of Sheppard on opening night against Charlotte... but the first thing that struck me was how small he looked out there.

    His shooting alone probably guarantees him a 10 year career in the league, but he's fighting an uphill battle from a purely physical standpoint.

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    I only caught a little bit of Sheppard on opening night against Charlotte... but the first thing that struck me was how small he looked out there.

    His shooting alone probably guarantees him a 10 year career in the league, but he's fighting an uphill battle from a purely physical standpoint.
    I still remember at the draft lottery when ESPN had Castle and Clingan together next to Dillingham and Sheppard for an interview and it legit looked like Castle and Clingan were Dilly's and Sheppard's dads.

    But yeah hard to see Sheppard's shooting not translating and someone with is skillset his exactly who you'd want lining up next to Amen Thompson (assuming he's Houston's long term answer at the point).

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    Looks like a lot of these prospects we were fighting over all summer are going to be in the G League next month. I guess it's nice only having to worry about Castle's shooting at this point, but it's a legitimate concern.

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    Looks like a lot of these prospects we were fighting over all summer are going to be in the G League next month. I guess it's nice only having to worry about Castle's shooting at this point, but it's a legitimate concern.
    And it’s mitigated some seeing how good he is on defense already and how he processes game so quickly alongside his much better than advertised ball handling/pace/passing. With all those traits, it raises his floor a TON even with the shooting. The shooting is a concern still, but it was more of one for me because I didnt know he had all the other stuff at this level.

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