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    PGs available:
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    Possible SF targets:
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    trade with Seattle:
    Watson and Petro for EWill, Butler OR Oberto
    Sonics get rid of Watson's contract and Eill and Oberto have expiring contracts.

    trade with Memphis:
    Atkins and Warrick for EWill, Scola's rights, Udrih, and future draft pick
    Would Griz give up young cheap player like Warren? Probably not.

    trade with Blazers:
    Dixon and Outlaw for EWill, Scola's rights, and future #1 pick
    Same with Outlaw, he's good and cheap. Tough to get him.

    trade with Sixers:
    Hunter for Butler and Udrih
    Sixers get rid of Hunter's contract (has 3 yrs., $10.5 mil left after this season)

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    I'd like to trade 60% of the posters on this board for the members of Heaven's Gate. They seemed to be more down to earth.

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    I'd like to trade 60% of the posters on this board for the members of Heaven's Gate. They seemed to be more down to earth.
    Who the are you? Just words man, they dont hurt anybody

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    i'd be surprised if barnes leaves GS. Nellie loves that guy and said as much in a recent article.

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    Who the are you? Just words man, they dont hurt anybody
    Not necessary.

    Get back to business.

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    None of the above posts really sparked this one. This is just something I thought some of you might agree with.

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    i'd be surprised if barnes leaves GS. Nellie loves that guy and said as much in a recent article.

    Well I think they'll move one of the swing guys. I can't see them hold onto five of them. But now, that SJax violated probation and might be facing jail time, that probably changes things up there.

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    Not necessary.

    Get back to business.
    Ive been all business, just didnt like the Heavens Gate remark, that didnt sound like business to me. I like the Beno + Williams for Foster and Armstrong idea, gives us a rebounding big and a backup point who can play d, although he is older than Kevin Willis

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    Well I think they'll move one of the swing guys. I can't see them hold onto five of them. But now, that SJax violated probation and might be facing jail time, that probably changes things up there.
    part of me believes that Jax and Pietrus are the odd men out.

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    I dont think Golden State would want to get rid of Pietrus, he is so young and talented, but what is his contract situation like?

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    I dont think Golden State would want to get rid of Pietrus, he is so young and talented, but what is his contract situation like?
    don't know his contract situation but barnes = pietrus but at a much lower price.

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    part of me believes that Jax and Pietrus are the odd men out.
    Pietrus looked to be the odd man out before Nellie took over. But he's been fairly consistent of late and Nellie has been really impressed with him. He starts for that team.

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    Barnes would be huge, but would Beno + pick, or Scola rights or Williams be enough?

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    I dont think Golden State would want to get rid of Pietrus, he is so young and talented, but what is his contract situation like?
    Pietrus will be a restricted FA after this year, but with the outrageous contracts that Mullin likes to award and Jackson's previously mentioned legal issues (thanks Kori), I'm pretty sure he's a safe bet to stay on with GS.

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    ANd sg is already kind of weak, so hmmm.....Williams + pick for a Jarvis Hayes type player?
    Washington has a Center combo that was involved in a fight earlier in the season and both are signed to long-term deals. And Hayes has been injury prone and generally underachieved.

    Barry + Beno for Haywood + Hayes might work....

    Going the extra mile (thereby making it less reasonable...sorry):

    Barry + Williams + Beno for Haywood + Daniels + Hayes

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    Jeezy creezy. Just keep Barry if you're going to throw him away like that. Might as well keep Udrih, too.

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    Washington has a Center combo that was involved in a fight earlier in the season and both are signed to long-term deals. And Hayes has been injury prone and generally underachieved.

    Barry + Beno for Haywood + Hayes might work....

    Going the extra mile (thereby making it less reasonable...sorry):

    Barry + Williams + Beno for Haywood + Daniels + Hayes
    What do you guys think of Haywood?

    Elson/Oberto upgrade?

    How much would you play here if you are keeping both Elson/Obero?

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    Bringing Antonio back would be the shiit, we could watch him do his one dunk he does over and over and over......
    And bringing in Haywood would give us a stockpile of bigs, meaning we could trade one of them for another player if need be

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    What do you guys think of Haywood?

    Elson/Oberto upgrade?

    How much would you play here if you are keeping both Elson/Obero?
    Well Haywood would at least give us a shotblocker, thats one thing he has always been able to do. Then we could get rid of one of the other centers for someone else we need

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    Washington fans have long nicknamed him 'Brenda' Haywood, so you know how they feel about them. On the other hand, ready-made nickname!

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    Did he punch Etan Thomas or did Thomas punch him?

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    brenda? if washington fans think you're soft, you're in trouble.

    from an article in the wasthington post...

    "Thomas felt that Miller's comments were a slight toward him, he approached Haywood and threw the first punch once the argument escalated, a source said. According to the source, Haywood responded to the punch by body-slamming Thomas to the ground, tearing out at least two of Thomas's dreadlocks in the process. The two players were separated by teammates and the altercation ended."

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    Sounds like Brendas got heart, bring him in! Ripping out dreadlocks take some strength

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    What do you guys think of Haywood?

    Elson/Oberto upgrade?

    How much would you play here if you are keeping both Elson/Obero?
    He's an upgrade and so is Foster. But the fundamental problem is that the Spurs' other Bigs have no trade value. Elson hasn't been on the court enough to prove he's more than a third-string center, and no one in the league is aware of what Oberto can bring to a team (offensive awareness, passing).... so I think the Spurs are stuck with both. It's not a horrible thing, but it's a reason why I think the Spurs should focus on other problem areas to correct.

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    He's an upgrade and so is Foster. But the fundamental problem is that the Spurs' other Bigs have no trade value. Elson hasn't been on the court enough to prove he's more than a third-string center, and no one in the league is aware of what Oberto can bring to a team (offensive awareness, passing).... so I think the Spurs are stuck with both. It's not a horrible thing, but it's a reason why I think the Spurs should focus on other problem areas to correct.

    the sad thing about this is that it seems no one on the spurs has much trade value, other than the triplets. and since the front office will probably never trade or even discuss a trade for one of those three, we're stuck with the team we have until the off-season. if the front office can make a useful trade out of the players we have, they'll have earned that "best executive's in the league" status everyone seems to heap on them.

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