Kobe suspended 1 game

[Brutalis]

Well what I want to know is why did he only swing out his right hand, the side Manu was on? He didn't swing out his left arm too like he was flailing. And just because Kobe was concerned with his well being doesn't mean anything. I've let my anger get the best of me and intentionally swung an elbow in a game before, but I still checked to see if the guy was alright. To me that doesn't matter. It looked weird to me.

Cause he was pissed he got blocked. Simple.

[mardigan]

You end up with no Blacks if you run them out the league.

WHO THE IS RUNNING THEM OUT OF THE LEAGUE? Look at the rosters stupid, you will see the ratio is out of control, you really think the league wants to run the top jersey seller out of the league? Your arguments are becoming more and more ignorant as you post.

[td4mvp21]

Cause he was pissed he got blocked. Simple.

Oh I know, you could tell he got pissed too. I'm just asking the people who say it was an accident why he would only swing out one arm to draw contact, that happened to go right to Ginobili's face. It's not even fine worthy in my opinion but that doesn't change the intention.

[whottt]

Bottom line is that if they replaced Stern and Jackson with white people this kind of racist bull wouldn't be happening...

[LakeShow]

Didnt realize Kobe is Artest

He said that Kobe would not have been suspended if it had been the playoffs. I let him know that Artest was suspended in the playoffs. Pay attention!

[LakeShow]

WHO THE IS RUNNING THEM OUT OF THE LEAGUE? Look at the rosters stupid, you will see the ratio is out of control, you really think the league wants to run the top jersey seller out of the league? Your arguments are becoming more and more ignorant as you post.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste!

[ponky]

So some ESPN analyst said that this wouldn't have even been an issue with the league unless tape was sent in by the Spurs org? Is this true? Regardless of what you think about the hit (foul or not, intentional or not), I just wanna know if this is the case with the review.

[Cherry]

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[mardigan]

That was me that said that, not he, my argument was that Artest was suspended then because of previous actions, Kobe would never be suspended had this happened in the playoffs, also do you remember Artests retaliation? He went after Manu, it was intentional

[mardigan]

A mind is a terrible thing to waste!

Yours? Probably not that terrible, actually

[ChumpDumper]

So some ESPN analyst said that this wouldn't have even been an issue with the league unless tape was sent in by the Spurs org? Is this true? Regardless of what you think about the hit (foul or not, intentional or not), I just wanna know if this is the case with the review.

False. Every game is reviewed by the refs, and it's not like the league office doesn't know what happens during games. Teams can send in tapes, but it's not a necessary step for a play's being reviewed.

[mardigan]

False. Every game is reviewed by the refs, and it's not like the league office doesn't know what happens during games. Teams can send in tapes, but it's not a necessary step for a play's being reviewed.

Right, the refs have to watch every game to see if their calls were good or bad. Im sure they watched the tape, saw that that play should have been a foul at least, and probably over-reacted a little

[ponky]

False. Every game is reviewed by the refs, and it's not like the league office doesn't know what happens during games. Teams can send in tapes, but it's not a necessary step for a play's being reviewed.

I see. That's what I thought, just wasn't sure.

[LakeShow]

That was me that said that, not he, my argument was that Artest was suspended then because of previous actions, Kobe would never be suspended had this happened in the playoffs, also do you remember Artests retaliation? He went after Manu, it was intentional

My point exactly. The rules stat intent or not is a suspension.

[mardigan]

That didnt happen this year, new rules, new suspensions

[Cherry]

Pop said that the suspension isn't about intent, it's because it was a blow to the head.

That´s all folks

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

heh, man this thread is long. But yeah, I think they suspended him, just to make those drawing contact think twice, because Manu got lucky he didn't get any more damage to his head. Broken nose, or worse...

If something worse happened a lot of you guys wouldn't be so defensive about Kobe.

This is just a precautionary measure for Kobe's exaggerated motion , which was RECKLESS regardless for his reasons.

[mardigan]

Good take^^^

[FromWayDowntown]

Marc Stein says that Ginobili actually said that the league shouldn't discipline Bryant at all and corroborates the notion that the suspension came because the league warned players in the preseason that they would be responsible for their elbows:

Spurs didn't see harm in Kobe's act

by: Marc Stein

Can't say I'm blown away, like Kobe Bryant.

But surprised?

Sure.

I was at Staples Center on Sunday afternoon and I certainly didn't expect Kobe to be tagged with a one-game suspension for catching Manu Ginobili with that elbow at the end of regulation. For a few reasons.

1. It all happened so fast in real time that most players in the vicinity didn't know what happened until seeing postgame replays.

2. You can't conclusively call it an intentional hit no matter how many times you watch it.

3. Of greatest significance, there was zero clamor from the Spurs for Bryant to be disciplined. There was minimal media attention devoted to the incident, until Monday morning, because prominent Spurs insisted that there was no incident.

Ginobili and coach Gregg Popovich immediately dismissed the notion that the hit was deliberate. "That's not his style," Pop said of Kobe after San Antonio's 96-94 overtime victory. Ginobili later told league security officials and the NBA Players Association that he hoped Bryant wouldn't be punished.

So why was Bryant's only Madison Square Garden appearance Tuesday abruptly canceled anyway?

It's not because of Kobe's past tangles with Mike Miller and Raja Bell. It's not because Manu is a master flopper, either. (I saw his face afterward and the welt under Ginobili's right eye couldn't have been more real.)

It's more about players being warned coming into the season, according to one league insider, that "you will be responsible for your elbows." Intentional or not.

The league, furthermore, classifies this hit as more than a mere elbow, which pretty much clinched a one-game ban. In an evening conference call with reporters, NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson said: "After [Bryant] followed through with a shot, he drove a stiff arm backwards in a hard motion and struck Ginobili in the head."

Jackson went on to call it an "unnatural basketball act" and made it clear that the league's justice department "did not view this as an inadvertent action."

Me?

I don't think Kobe was trying to draw a foul, as initially and widely assumed. It looks to me more like Bryant, who does appear to be guilty of swinging with some undeniable frustration, was mostly trying to keep nearby Spurs away from the loose ball after his potential game-winning jumper was blocked.

Yet we can debate his intent and posit theories all day. None of it really matters if the Spurs coming to Bryant's defense -- given the depth of the teams' rivalry over the past decade, isn't that the big surprise here? -- couldn't spare him from suspension.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I don't THINK is was intentional either. However, Kobe is a little on the nutty side.

true


I don't understand giving Kobe the benefit of the doubt here.

[WalterBenitez]

"you will be responsible for your elbows."
jesus ... another extra responsibility ...

[resistanze]

You're right -- Manu Jewnobili's nose hit Kobe in the hand, and the white Jewish commissioner goes after Kobe. You'd like to think there's no conspiracy, but...

I was hoping you would've went with "Manu Jewnosebleed"

[bigfundamental21]

Kobe needed to be given some sort of punishment for what he did because it was an "unnatuaral" movement of his arm. Kobe is always getting away with , so it's about time he gets his. Now a suspension is harsh, but he did need a punishment. If it had been the other way around, Kobe and the Lakers would have been crying for a suspension.

[resistanze]

^^ So would you also agree that if it was the other way around, spurs fans would be outraged if Ginobili got suspended?

[ChumpDumper]

Gotta love lakerfan.

I know people want to send 100,000 emails to Stern or do bodily harm to Stu Jackson, but the reality is that none of that will matter to the NBA.

My solution? I'm boycotting all non-Lakers NBA games. I'm not watching them on TV or listening to them on the radio and I damn sure am not going to any of them in person until Stern retires or Stu Jackson is fired.

Way to sacrifice there. Acting like pretty much every other NBA fan will certainly show the man who's the man.