Real 9-11 Research

[Galileo]

more evidence for the archie debunkers:

9/11 Truth: The Collapse of WTC 7 - Who Knew in Advance?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

These are some of the best technical videos:

Part 1- WTC 7 Improbable Collapse?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

Part 2- WTC 7 Improbable Collapse?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

Part 3- WTC 7 Improbable Collapse ?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

www.WTC7.net

Go ahead, archie debunkers. Tell us how the damage outlined in the NIST report explains the collapse of WTC 7.

[Galileo]

Want some more evidence? Here goes:

[Building 7 starts at 3:15]

The Painful Deception of 9/11 (4of12)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=3

[continued]

The Painful Deception of 9/11 (5of12)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=3

[Galileo]

still more evidence on WTC 7:

[WTC 7 starts at 4:10]

911 the british broadcasting conspiracy 4/9
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=5

[continued]

911 the british broadcasting conspiracy 5/9
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=5

[smeagol]

Galileo

The WTC was pulled of by Bush?

[Wild Cobra]

Maybe this thread should be led "The Moore-onic beliefs of 9/11."

I have seen to my satisfaction, evidence to show there was no conspiracy. I understand the sciences enough to have no unanswered questions. I have never seen a valid conspiracy theory. Maybe if the way things went down didn't keep changing by the conspiracy crowd, they would have at least enough credibility to listen to.

These people see things they don't understand, and make up things. My God man. A theory is one thing, but every time the theory is busted, you guys just making up another one. Anything but the theory the buildings fell by physical damage and the insufficient structural support left under heat.

Sure, statistically, the way it happened would be very rare to see again. However, statistics do include the rare events. Statistics do not say that a rare event is impossible. Just improbable.

[ChumpDumper]

So lets get this straight.

FOX, the BBC, and CNN, all knew WTC 7 would fall.

Yeah, the firemen said it was going to fall. Repeatedly. For hours. After they measured the deformation of the building. That's why it was evacuated.

A controlled demolition collapse would have happened right after the explosion reported that morning.


That's what happened.

No controlled demolition.

[Galileo]

Galileo

The WTC was pulled of by Bush?

Are you pulling my leg?

I want to know who pulled the fire alarms.

[Galileo]

I have seen to my satisfaction, evidence to show there was no conspiracy.

why does the collapse of WTC 7 look like a controlled demolition? Have you ever heard of WTC 7?

[Galileo]

Yeah, the firemen said it was going to fall. Repeatedly. For hours. After they measured the deformation of the building. That's why it was evacuated.

A controlled demolition collapse would have happened right after the explosion reported that morning.


That's what happened.

No controlled demolition.

According to the NIST report, that's not what happened. You'd better give 'em a call so they won't waste another 6 1/2 years. It's nice that such smart people like you are around to figure stuff out for us.

Who turned off the fire alarms?

[Yonivore]

why does the collapse of WTC 7 look like a controlled demolition?

Why do some clouds look like Flinstone characters?

Have you ever heard of WTC 7?

Ever heard of coincidence?

[Extra Stout]

Yeah, the firemen said it was going to fall. Repeatedly. For hours. After they measured the deformation of the building. That's why it was evacuated.

A controlled demolition collapse would have happened right after the explosion reported that morning.


That's what happened.

No controlled demolition.

Enough's enough. I'm tired of 6 1/2 years of lying. CD, WC, smeagol, Yoni, clambake, let's just admit it. We're all part of the conspiracy. The conspiracy is vast and overreaching. We are part of the Spurstalk division of Internet Forum Action Response Team (I-FART for short). We are responsible for upholding the "official" story for 9/11 by "debunking" the conspiracy theories which of course are all true. Misha Goldsilberstein oversees our group. His office is on the 97th floor of the cloaked South Tower.

The firemen are part of the conspiracy too. They were briefed prior to the attacks on what the script would be for the demolition of WTC 7. Shlomo Ben-Rabin is in charge of mind control for New York emergency responders.

So there you go, Galileo. Full disclosure. I even keep a plaque in my office provided to me by Cheney. The plaque contains my very own bone fragment from an exploded Iraqi child. It's one of my most cherished possessions.

[Yonivore]

Enough's enough. I'm tired of 6 1/2 years of lying. CD, WC, smeagol, Yoni, clambake, let's just admit it. We're all part of the conspiracy. The conspiracy is vast and overreaching. We are part of the Spurstalk division of Internet Forum Action Response Team (I-FART for short). We are responsible for upholding the "official" story for 9/11 by "debunking" the conspiracy theories which of course are all true. Misha Goldsilberstein oversees our group. His office is on the 97th floor of the cloaked South Tower.

The firemen are part of the conspiracy too. They were briefed prior to the attacks on what the script would be for the demolition of WTC 7. Shlomo Ben-Rabin is in charge of mind control for New York emergency responders.

So there you go, Galileo. Full disclosure. I even keep a plaque in my office provided to me by Cheney. The plaque contains my very own bone fragment from an exploded Iraqi child. It's one of my most cherished possessions.

Shut the up or I'll have you iced.

[Galileo]

Why do some clouds look like Flinstone characters?


Ever heard of coincidence?

Its a cooincidence that WTC 7 just happened to get blown up the same day that planes flew into the Twin Towers.

Ever heard of cooincidence?

[Galileo]

Enough's enough. I'm tired of 6 1/2 years of lying. CD, WC, smeagol, Yoni, clambake, let's just admit it. We're all part of the conspiracy. The conspiracy is vast and overreaching. We are part of the Spurstalk division of Internet Forum Action Response Team (I-FART for short). We are responsible for upholding the "official" story for 9/11 by "debunking" the conspiracy theories which of course are all true. Misha Goldsilberstein oversees our group. His office is on the 97th floor of the cloaked South Tower.

The firemen are part of the conspiracy too. They were briefed prior to the attacks on what the script would be for the demolition of WTC 7. Shlomo Ben-Rabin is in charge of mind control for New York emergency responders.

So there you go, Galileo. Full disclosure. I even keep a plaque in my office provided to me by Cheney. The plaque contains my very own bone fragment from an exploded Iraqi child. It's one of my most cherished possessions.

I'm on the record saying that 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy.

[Yonivore]

Its a cooincidence that WTC 7 just happened to get blown up the same day that planes flew into the Twin Towers.

No, it's a coincidence that the structural failure experienced by WTC 7, after being struck by debris from a 110 story tower, looked (to you) like a controlled demolition.

Ever heard of cooincidence?

No, and that's not a word.

[Galileo]

No, it's a coincidence that the structural failure experienced by WTC 7, after being struck by debris from a 110 story tower, looked (to you) like a controlled demolition.


No, and that's not a word.

It's not a coincidence. Do you have any proof that this was a coincidence? Or are you just saying it?

How did the debirs get to WTC 7, 355 feet away? I thought WTC 1 fell from the force of gravity?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm on the record saying that 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy.

You aren't on the record for saying anything -- but here's your chance:

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

[RandomGuy]

the debunkers resemble a religion in their fanatical opposition to the idea that a powerful person in the government might order someone killed for political gain.

Unless someone is convicted of murder, it didn't happen.

Ok, let's see how many people are involved in this conspiracy.

Give me a rough guess so we can start to get an idea as to the ultimate scope.

That is the first step in any investigation.

[RandomGuy]

there were hijackers, but the hijackers had guns.

Phone calls from the planes to family members mentioned that the hijackers had guns.

Source?

Link?

Say prison planet or loosechange.com, and I will smack you.

[RandomGuy]

I've read through all this stuff over the past two years, let's cut to the chase:

I have two very simple questions I'd like answered;

# 1

Why does the collapse of WTC 7 look like a controlled demolition?

WTC7 - This is an Orange
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62504721899003

# 2

Would our president George Bush, or our vice president Cheney, or Donald Rumsfeld, be capable of making a decision that would cause the death of 3000 people?

#1
Because building collapses always "look like" controlled demolitions.

How many building collapses that weren't controlled demolitions have YOU seen?

#2
Yes. The invasion of Iraq is a good example.

Better question for #2:

Who would George Bush, or our vice president Cheney, or Donald Rumsfeld find that would be willing to murder 20,000 Americans by demolishing the twin towers?

[Galileo]

Ok, let's see how many people are involved in this conspiracy.

Give me a rough guess so we can start to get an idea as to the ultimate scope.

That is the first step in any investigation.

There was zero people involved in this conspiracy. It wasn't a conspiracy.

I think you're on the record saying there were 22 people in on the conspiracy.

[Yonivore]

It's not a coincidence. Do you have any proof that this was a coincidence? Or are you just saying it?

How did the debirs get to WTC 7, 355 feet away? I thought WTC 1 fell from the force of gravity?

Since you're relying on NIST so much, how come your explanation doesn't jibe with their "working hypothesis" on the collapse of WTC 7?

The current NIST working collapse hypothesis for WTC 7 is described in the June 2004 Progress Report on the Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster (Volume 1, page 17, as well as Appendix L), as follows:

An initial local failure occurred at the lower floors (below floor 13) of the building due to fire and/or debris induced structural damage of a critical column (the initiating event) which supported a large span floor bay with an area of about 2,000 square feet;

Vertical progression of the initial local failure occurred up to the east penthouse, as the large floor bays were unable to redistribute the loads, bringing down the interior structure below the east penthouse; and

Horizontal progression of the failure across the lower floors (in the region of floors 5 and 7, that were much thicker than the rest of the floors), triggered by damage due to the vertical failure, resulting in a disproportionate collapse of the entire structure.

This hypothesis may be supported or modified, or new hypotheses may be developed, through the course of the continuing investigation. NIST also is considering whether hypothetical blast events could have played a role in initiating the collapse. While NIST has found no evidence of a blast or controlled demolition event, NIST would like to determine the magnitude of hypothetical blast scenarios that could have led to the structural failure of one or more critical elements.

[Galileo]

#1
Because building collapses always "look like" controlled demolitions.

How many building collapses that weren't controlled demolitions have YOU seen?

#2
Yes. The invasion of Iraq is a good example.

Better question for #2:

Who would George Bush, or our vice president Cheney, or Donald Rumsfeld find that would be willing to murder 20,000 Americans by demolishing the twin towers?

# 1

source?

# 2

so what's your problem with a false-flag military operation for the benefit of the American people?

[Galileo]

Since you're relying on NIST so much, how come your explanation doesn't jibe with their "working hypothesis" on the collapse of WTC 7?

I'm using the NIST report for evidence whenever possible, as it is less controversial. That's why. I'm surprised a bright fellow like you had to have this explained to you.

[Galileo]

Source?

Link?

Say prison planet or loosechange.com, and I will smack you.

You'll have to dig through these articles to find the analysis and sources:

andrewkornkven's blog
http://www.911blogger.com/blog/253

This blogger is an air traffic controller who was, su iously, NOT scheduled to work on the day of 9/11. Hmmm??