Vassilis Spanoulis Thread

[Bruno]

Two years ago, Spurs were close to get a player way better than Ginobili and Spanoulis.


Stats for this player during his ROOKIE euroleague year. He was 23 years old.

2003-2004 STATISTICS

games 20
minutes 30.5

56% FG%
39.6% 3PT%
91% FT%

points per game 19.4

rebounds per game 2.5

assists per game 2.1

steals per game 1.6


http://www.euroleague.net/compe io...asoncode=E2003

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

he can't even play backup pg in hou

http://www.euroleague.net/main/standings

only undefeated team in Euroleague 6-0

http://www.galanissportsdata.com/bas...rank.asp?day=7

only undefeated team in Greece 7-0

http://www.galanissportsdata.com/bas...totrs.asp?s=03

lead Greek league in assists guess Van Gundy wrong about he "not real point guard"




team ranked #1 team in Europe at 13-0 record

http://www.eurobasket.com/ranking.asp

No Team Record Points
1. Panathinaikos (GRE) 13-0 121
2. Khimky (RUS) 15-0 119
3. Real (ESP) 14-2 115
4. CSKA (RUS) 14-2 112
5. Joventut (ESP) 14-1 111
6. Montepaschi (ITA) 16-2 102
7. Barcelona (ESP) 12-4 100
8. Olympiacos (GRE) 10-3 99
9. Dynamo M. (RUS) 13-3 97
10. Crvena Zvezda (SRB) 13-4 96
11. Partizan (SRB) 14-4 95
12. Hemofarm (SRB) 10-7 91
13. Lietuvos (LTU) 19-3 90
14. Tau Ceramica (ESP) 11-5 90
15. T.Telekom (TUR) 11-2 89
16. Triumph (RUS) 12-4 87
17. Panionios (GRE) 7-4 86
18. Panellinios (GRE) 7-5 86
19. Nancy (FRA) 12-3 83
20. FMP (SRB) 6-11 83
21. Zalgiris (LTU) 17-4 81
22. Vojvodina (SRB) 6-6 80
23. Galatasaray (TUR) 10-3 79
24. Maccabi T-A (ISR) 8-3 79
25. Fenerbahce (TUR) 9-5 77
26. Pamesa (ESP) 10-5 76
27. Akasvayu (ESP) 10-5 76
28. Cibona (CRO) 10-8 76
29. ASVEL (FRA) 11-4 75
30. Lagun Aro (ESP) 7-3 73
31. BC Kyiv (UKR) 13-1 72
32. Zadar (CRO) 11-6 71
33. Besiktas (TUR) 10-3 71
34. Aris (GRE) 8-5 71
35. KK Zagreb (CRO) 5-9 71
36. Lottomatica (ITA) 10-8 69
37. Egaleo (GRE) 5-2 69
38. BK Ventsp. (LAT) 10-7 68
39. Efes P. (TUR) 8-6 67
40. Olimpija (SLO) 9-9 66
41. Karsiyaka (TUR) 6-2 65
42. Lukoil A. (BUL) 13-2 64
43. Azovmash (UKR) 11-4 64
44. Art.Dragons (GER) 12-4 63
45. ALBA (GER) 12-4 63
46. Unicaja (ESP) 9-7 63
47. G.Canaria (ESP) 8-7 63
48. ASK Riga (LAT) 14-5 62
49. Jerusalem (ISR) 7-4 62
50. KK Split (CRO) 5-7 62
51. Lok.Rostov (RUS) 7-5 61
52. Turow (POL) 10-3 59
53. Prokom (POL) 8-6 58
54. Unics (RUS) 7-8 58
55. Mega AM (SRB) 6-2 58
56. Swisslion Tak. (SRB) 6-2 58
57. Bamberg (GER) 10-7 57
58. Angelico (ITA) 8-4 57
59. Vichy (FRA) 7-3 57
60. Le Mans (FRA) 7-9 57
61. Nahariya (ISR) 5-3 57
62. Samara (RUS) 6-5 55
63. Ural Great (RUS) 6-5 55
64. Cholet (FRA) 7-5 54
65. BC Kalev (EST) 18-8 53
66. Roanne (FRA) 7-9 53
67. Ricoh Man. (ESP) 5-5 52
68. Bnei Hash. (ISR) 4-2 52
69. Nymburk (CZE) 15-4 51
70. M.Hainaut (BEL) 10-3 51
71. La Fortezza (ITA) 8-10 51
72. Slavonski Brod (CRO) 6-1 51
73. Pierrel (ITA) 7-5 50
74. Premiata (ITA) 7-5 50
75. Scavolini (ITA) 7-5 50
76. Siviglia Wear (ITA) 7-5 50
77. Air AV (ITA) 7-5 50
78. Siauliai (LTU) 13-9 49
79. Helios (SLO) 10-10 49
80. WTK Anwil (POL) 7-6 49
81. Charleroi (BEL) 10-6 48
82. Novi Sad (SRB) 5-3 48
83. Borac (SRB) 5-3 48
84. Radnicki 034 (SRB) 5-3 48
85. Leverkusen (GER) 8-3 47
86. Krka (SLO) 7-1 47
87. Zlatorog (SLO) 7-3 47
88. Hap.Holon (ISR) 3-2 47
89. Buducnost (MNT) 10-7 46
90. Barons/LMT (LAT) 8-7 46
91. Stal Ostrow (POL) 6-2 46
92. AEK (GRE) 4-5 46
93. Prostejov (CZE) 13-3 45
94. Ventspils au. (LAT) 11-2 45
95. Zabok (CRO) 6-2 45
96. Sibenka (CRO) 6-2 45
97. Spartak-P. (RUS) 4-5 45
98. Zemgale (LAT) 9-2 44
99. TU/Rock (EST) 14-9 43
100. Oostende (BEL) 9-7 43


Spanoulis lead best team in Europe and play in Euroleague means also best team in world outside NBA in scoring and assists overall.

Van Gundy these day???

He work for ESPN


I guess we know who right and who wrong on argument between player and coach about play time.

[Hemotivo]

van gundy lead the knicks to the nba finals

[Extra Stout]

May KBP be anathema.

[Mark in Austin]

so because he made the cover of a video game, that means he should play for the Spurs?

If only the bar was really set that low...


ps - most Spurs fans wanted to give him a chance... you need to send this to Billy. He's the one who decided to walk away fom the Spurs without trying.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

He sucks.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

van gundy lead the knicks to the nba finals

in strike year and he STILL work for ESPN he also quit on Knicks team and he also get in trouble with GM for try bench Camby say he "not good enough for NBA" guess you "expert" on van Gundy too since know so little of him

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

May KBP be anathema.

I don't know, it's borderline amusing.

I like how he justifies his case for that Euro guy via pictures.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

so because he made the cover of a video game, that means he should play for the Spurs?

If only the bar was really set that low...


ps - most Spurs fans wanted to give him a chance... you need to send this to Billy. He's the one who decided to walk away fom the Spurs without trying.

Rocket owner very mad Van Gundy one reason he be fires team lose $10 million the marketing money from Greece when Spanoulis leave team. I guess accords to Spur fan Spur team not interest in $10 million market money from Greece?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I don't know, it's borderline amusing.

I like how he justifies his case for that Euro guy via pictures.

I not do such thing I just respond to stupid comment like he can not do dunk. I guess typical fan here judge player not even know anything about him. I start think Spur fan be no smarter than Rocket fan.

I be sad my best NBA team for my favorite have also so many "popcorn" type fans.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I not do such thing I just respond to stupid comment like he can not do dunk. I guess typical fan here judge player not even know anything about him. I start think Spur fan be no smarter than Rocket fan.

I be sad my best NBA team for my favorite have also so many "popcorn" type fans.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I not do such thing I just respond to stupid comment like he can not do dunk. I guess typical fan here judge player not even know anything about him. I start think Spur fan be no smarter than Rocket fan.

I be sad my best NBA team for my favorite have also so many "popcorn" type fans.

What point are you trying to prove here?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Two years ago, Spurs were close to get a player way better than Ginobili and Spanoulis.


Stats for this player during his ROOKIE euroleague year. He was 23 years old.

2003-2004 STATISTICS

games 20
minutes 30.5

56% FG%
39.6% 3PT%
91% FT%

points per game 19.4

rebounds per game 2.5

assists per game 2.1

steals per game 1.6


http://www.euroleague.net/compe io...asoncode=E2003

First panathinaikos team much better than team either Macas or Manu played on.

I guess Spur fan think same stat play on Bobcats and Spurs mean same thing? Spur fans get such low bball IQ now like Rocket fan?

Also you know Byron Scott just exact same coach like Van Gundy and Macas good player so waht your point? I know your point be you know not of Euroleague basketball you really believe Byron Scott and Jeff van Gundy good coaches.

Then how come Marcus Camby say Van Gundy worst coach ever? Then how come Jason Kidd say Byron Scott probable dumbest coach he ever met in his life?

Guess you really believe these player also "cry baby and pussy" too just like Spanoulis and Macas?

[Spurs Brazil]

Spanoulis is afraid of NBA

I hope we never see him in Spurs uniform

Manu is fearless. "Billy" can't even put Manu shoes

[ChumpDumper]

Billy is not coming back.

He told you the amount he wants, and that amount is obviously more than the Spurs would pay him.

He is of no importance to the Spurs.

The Spurs will make more money off popcorn sales than they have will off Vangelis. I will admit I always liked Chariots of Fire though.

[Bruno]

First panathinaikos team much better than team either Macas or Manu played on.

I guess Spur fan think same stat play on Bobcats and Spurs mean same thing? Spur fans get such low bball IQ now like Rocket fan?

Time to get a clue.
Manu's team reach the final in 01-02.
Macas' team in 03-04 and Spanoulis' team in 05-06 did about the same thing.

Also you know Byron Scott just exact same coach like Van Gundy and Macas good player so waht your point? I know your point be you know not of Euroleague basketball you really believe Byron Scott and Jeff van Gundy good coaches.

Then how come Marcus Camby say Van Gundy worst coach ever? Then how come Jason Kidd say Byron Scott probable dumbest coach he ever met in his life?

Guess you really believe these player also "cry baby and pussy" too just like Spanoulis and Macas?

Sure, Byron Scott and JVG are horrible coaches.
Macijauskas and Spanoulis failing in nba is only because of their horrible coach.

I've put Macijauskas stats for one reason : saying that Spanoulis is close to Ginobili only because they had the same stats in Euroleague is stupid.
You had to understand than Euroleague isn't nba. A player can be good in Euroleague and sucks in nba.
Maybe Spanoulis could be one day a good nba player but putting great stats in Euroleague doesn't mean that the player will be a good nba player.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Time to get a clue.
Manu's team reach the final in 01-02.
Macas' team in 03-04 and Spanoulis' team in 05-06 did about the same thing.




Sure, Byron Scott and JVG are horrible coaches.
Macijauskas and Spanoulis failing in nba is only because of their horrible coach.

I've put Macijauskas stats for one reason : saying that Spanoulis is close to Ginobili only because they had the same stats in Euroleague is stupid.
You had to understand than Euroleague isn't nba. A player can be good in Euroleague and sucks in nba.
Maybe Spanoulis could be one day a good nba player but putting great stats in Euroleague doesn't mean that the player will be a good nba player.

So you agree then Camby and Kidd also "pussies"?

Also you think Manu team Kinder then compare to Billy team now Panathinaikos you crazy. You see how Billy get award places after this year and win championships. Guess Spur fan not deserve such player either like Rockets fan. Only fan have any brain seem be Panathinaikos fan.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Time to get a clue.
Manu's team reach the final in 01-02.
Macas' team in 03-04 and Spanoulis' team in 05-06 did about the same thing.




Sure, Byron Scott and JVG are horrible coaches.
Macijauskas and Spanoulis failing in nba is only because of their horrible coach.

I've put Macijauskas stats for one reason : saying that Spanoulis is close to Ginobili only because they had the same stats in Euroleague is stupid.
You had to understand than Euroleague isn't nba. A player can be good in Euroleague and sucks in nba.
Maybe Spanoulis could be one day a good nba player but putting great stats in Euroleague doesn't mean that the player will be a good nba player.

Of all player NBA who this remind you most of? Not Manu? If not think so must not be real Manu fan.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2JxYa3QqBYo

[Bruno]

So you agree then Camby and Kidd also "pussies"?

It's not because a player didn't like a coach that you say "either the coach sucks or the player is a "pussy" ".

Also you think Manu team Kinder then compare to Billy team now Panathinaikos you crazy. You see how Billy get award places after this year and win championships.

You're comparing Sapnoulis in 05-06 with Manu in 01-02. the level of Spanoulis' team in 07-08 has nothing to do with that.

Guess Spur fan not deserve such player either like Rockets fan. Only fan have any brain seem be Panathinaikos fan.

Thanks for the insult.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Billy is not coming back.

He told you the amount he wants, and that amount is obviously more than the Spurs would pay him.

He is of no importance to the Spurs.

The Spurs will make more money off popcorn sales than they have will off Vangelis. I will admit I always liked Chariots of Fire though.

How come Buford, Lindsey, Parker, Popovich have been calls him lately then?

[ChumpDumper]

How come Buford, Lindsey, Parker, Popovich have been calls him lately then?

If they are, it's only to try to lower his asking price.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

It's not because a player didn't like a coach that you say "either the coach sucks or the player is a "pussy" ".



You're comparing Sapnoulis in 05-06 with Manu in 01-02. the level of Spanoulis' team in 07-08 has nothing to do with that.



Thanks for the insult.

But accords Spur fan because Spanoulis say Van Gundy offense poor and he get sent dog house all year because he say this this mean he "suck" how come Greek player get different standard. You just admit this not fair argument.

And I give You Manu SECOND year Manu age 24 Billy FIRST year Billy 23, just like you argue Washington "better" than Billy because he "younger" in other thread now you argue it "not same because different team"

You call pull any argument out of back end as fit you bias opinion.

Now it not matter Billy rookie and year younger and Manu older and not rookie in stat compare but with Washington it somehow make only matter to you.

Maybe you try learn something other than player on Spur team.

[MrChug]

KBP...you are officially the most dimented moron this site has ever seen. REALLY???? Do you REALLY think that? Lemme ask you something, how can you compare an NBA All-Star and a perennial difference maker on the NBA's best team to someone WHO CAN'T EVEN KEEP A JOB IN THE N-B- IN-A?!?!?!

Kill yourself now please.

[Bruno]

And I give You Manu SECOND year Manu age 24 Billy FIRST year Billy 23, just like you argue Washington "better" than Billy because he "younger" in other thread now you argue it "not same because different team"

and I give you Macijauskas FIRST year at the same age than Spanoulis.
By using your way to compare players : Macijauskas >>> Spanoulis.

Now, you had to realize that your way to compare players sucks.
First, Euroleague isn't nba. Some players doesn't translate well from euroleague to nba.
Second, if a player is better than another one at 23, it doesn't mean that he will be better than him at 28.

Think about that.