If Walker, Rush, Batum, and CDR are all off the board at #26....
Nah, I guess it won't matter because the Spurs have probably given a guarantee to an international like Omri Casspi.
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Then you go to the next player.
Nothing you can do about the players in front of you.
If you can package the 26th and someone else to get to 20 or whatever, that works. It's never been done and no one wants to trade with the Spurs (allegedly in the draft)
Spurs need to draft an athletic wing and a point guard
= Courtney Lee.If Walker, Rush, Batum, and CDR are all off the board at #26....
It's a point i don't understant now ? is a point guard more important than a wing player or a big inside if splitter doesn't come ???
A lot of people want a back up Pg , with parker here we can just go with a vet imo
If Splitter comes then yes an athletic wing and Pg
I think in this draft the Spurs should be very un-Spur like. That is, don't take the international player that nobody's heard of and could be very good in 2015. It's time to mine for gems stateside while the rest of the NBA copies your model. I think they've started down this path. They took Williams last year when they could've used that 2nd round pick on yet another international talent. Yes, it didn't work out. But a lot of draft picks don't. The real jump for the Spurs in this draft will be to take a domestic player with their 1st round pick. They have not done so and kept the rights to that player since...1997.
The argument for taking a domestic player is that with the amount of talent available in the draft, plus the fact that more teams are utilizing draft and stash in the face of guaranteed first round contracts, this results in quality NCAA talent falling down down the draft board.
I'm not one to argue with the Spurs basic model for championship success. Building a supporting cast out of experienced vets has worked to the tune of 4 championships. But it should be noted that the Spurs have also developed role players out of young talent within their system (AD, Malik, & Jack). Of course, that list kinda drops off circa the 2003 le.
This isn't to say that I think Pop is totally doctrinaire in his approach to basketball as it relates to a player's age. Starting a 19 year old French point guard playing in his 2nd career NBA game disabuses one of the notion. But with Tim Duncan's career presumably ending in 4 years, the Spurs need help now sooner than later. With a young player you can perhaps mold him into the perfect Spur role player rather than attempting to unwind the bad habits out of an aging vet. As we've seen with Splitter, there's no guarantee an international talent will be ready to go when you need him. Plus you already have prospects at the 3, 4, & 5 abroad as it stands. Why add another at this point?
Courtney Lee, as the Wildcat said. Could be better than any of them and is probably the best scorer.If Walker, Rush, Batum, and CDR are all off the board at #26....
Nah, I guess it won't matter because the Spurs have probably given a guarantee to an international like Omri Casspi.
who would you pick if you had to choose between Dorsey and Hardin?
Dorsey
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...Day-Four-2905/Mike Taylor had a very poor performance with just 1 point and 6 turnovers on 0-6 shooting in 20 minutes, but luckily for him, very few people were watching. His tendency to force the issue was extremely evident, and the opinions about him here at this camp are clearly mixed. Some people like him, and a lot of people don’t. It will be interesting to see what ends up happening with him.
Yeah, I saw that. I'm sure he did enough to get workouts from the teams that did like him.
Now we get to wait for the measurements. That's when I start caring about the draft.
Courtney Lee sounds like a great fit for the Spurs. High character guy who can play both sides of the ball.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Courtney-Lee-471/
When the is this draft everyone's talking about?
June 26.
Yep, hes been talked about in this thread before. But I tend to agree, I think hes a good guy to take a shot on.
why dorsey over hardin?
Batum averages 5 rpg and is the 3rd rebounder for Le Mans this is not bad for a SG/SF. But he is not a very consistent rebounder and could probably do a little better given his size and athletism. Sometime he looks like he is not focused on rebounding (maybe it comes from is coach).
Hey Chump when are the measurements held... next week some time?
Some players who will work out with Spurs :
Marcelus Kemp
Sean Singletary
George Hill
Jeremy Pargo (maybe)
Danny Green
Kyle Hines
Ty Lawson
Lawson may go 1st round. The rest of those look like 2nd rounders.
The only guy i could see the Spurs taking at 26 is Lawson.... could this mean the Spurs have basically made up their mind on 26?
The list is far from being complete. Spurs will work out with a lot of other players.
I'm bumping this thread for general draft discussion.
At 26, I don't have an absolute favorite but there are a lot of players I like that could be available, especially at shooting guard and small forward. Swingmen at 26 I'd be happy with:
Chase Budinger
Nicolas Batum
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Brandon Rush
Bill Walker
Courtney Lee
Highest potential out of this group I'd say is Walker or Batum. The players who could help the Spurs most right now would probably be Rush. And if somehow Joe Alexander or Donte Green fell, they'd be awesome swingman picks at 26.
At the bigman positions, at 26 I'd be most happy with Robin Lopez since I think he could step in and help right away. For project bigs, I like Jason Thompson and DeVon Hardin. Those two players are perfect for Austin and could become quality pieces after a year or two of seasoning.
The only point guard prospect I'd consider at 26 is Mario Chalmers. And really, the only reason I'd consider him is because Bill Self could give his best friend RC Buford the inside scoop on Chalmer's abilities. I'd like a scoring point guard to backup TP. Chalmer is more like Jacque Vaughn on steroids. Probably a solid pick not too much potential.
At 45, any of the above players would be nice, obviously. Other players I'd throw into the mix:
Gary Forbes - A Panamanian swingman who is dominating the draft camps.
Sonny Weems - The fastest and one of the most athletic shooting guards in the draft.
Joey Dorsey - Ben Wallace style bigman who's main flaw is being even shorter than Wallace.
Nikola Pekovic - If everyone else of good value is off the board, might as well take the Euro who'd be a near lottery pick if he didn't have a three-year contract in Greece.
JR Giddens - Any 6-foot-5 wing who can average almost nine boards in college is worth a look.
At 57, my personal favorites are:
Goran Dragic - Defensive minded Slovenian point guard.
Keith Brumbaugh - Fresh out of prison but former top ten prospect whose favorite team is the Spurs.
George Hill - Small school point guard.
Mike Taylor - Speedy combo guard who played in the D-League last year.
Pat Calathes - 6-foot-10 player who could play shooting guard.
Shan Foster - Has struggled in draft camps but a good kid who can shoot.
Players I want the Spurs to avoid:
Kosta Koufos - Good talent but I think he'd turn into another Splitter situation.
Roy Hibbert - Too immobile.
Alexis Ajinca - Too soft.
Nathan Jawai - Too much bust potential.
I'm missing some prospects in this post but so far this is shaping up to be a draft where the Spurs could come away with two players that have a chance to make the team.
Throw Malik Hairston into the mix at #45. He hasn't lived up to expectations to this point, but he has good size and athleticism to make him worth the gamble if he's there at 45.
It's probably wrong to call Courtney Lee a swingman in any sense, as he's a SG. I'd mark him at the top of the list at 26, if perhaps behind Rush. I think he could be a very good fit.
Chase Budinger is a forgotten boy at this point... wonder where he falls, if he pulls out, or what. Not necessarily Spurs material (bad defense), but could be worth a listing.
Pat Calathes might be more of a mid-2nd pick, and could be very worth it.
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